Monday, May 6, 2024

Goofball Krishna's Samadhi / Child Abuse / Ritviks / Tamal 05 06 24



Respected Maharajas, Prabhujis, and Matajis,

Jai Om Nitya Lila pravishtha Paramahamsa Parivrajakacharya Ashtottara Shata Sri srimad Srila Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja ki jai.

With our hearts broken but reconciled to Krishna's plan, we seek to announce the unfortunate departure of Srila Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja and his auspicious entry into the eternal pastimes of Sri Sri Radha Parthasarathi, Sri Sri Gaura Nitai, Sri Sri Sita Rama Lakshmana Hanuman and Sri Sri Lakshmi Narasimha.

Gurudeva will travel to Delhi and then to Sri Vrindavan Dhama.
5th May, 2024 9.20am IST

Camp: Synergy Institute of Medical Sciences Dehradun

"When the mortal body of the spiritual master expires, his disciples should cry exactly as the queen cries when the king leaves his body. However, the disciple and spiritual master are never separated because the spiritual master always keeps company with the disciple as long as the disciple follows strictly the instructions of the spiritual master. This is called the association of vāṇī (words)." (SB 4.28.47 purport)

PADA: Now Lokanath has made a video of himself crying about the departure of Gopal Krishna swami. Yes, Lokanath and his India ICC team now have lost the main person who would help their program create samadhis in Vrndavana for their homosexuals, pedophiles and porno swamis -- messiahs from heaven, so that children can go to the dham and offer obeisance to their pedo and porno samadhi program. As one devotee said "Vrndavana will become an ocean of dead ISKCON guru's samadhis." 

Gopal Krishna has also been taking boat loads of karma, which is one reason he suffered all sorts of maladies. He told the GBC in 1980 that if they would not make him a guru, he was going public to complain that ISKCON is a "white body guru program" that is racist, so they had to let him in. 

And other GBC guru folks like Kirtanananda called him "Goofball Krishna." And now Mr. Goofball will be in another samadhi over there. 


Henry Doktorski:

Breaking news for my Krishna friends: ISKCON guru Gopal Krishna Goswami (Aug. 14, 1944-May 5, 2024) has passed.

I was present at Gopal Krishna's sannyasa initiation ceremony at New Vrindaban. Gopal Krishna asked Kirtanananda Swami, Prabhupada's first and foremost sannyasi, to give him sannyasa initiation. I remember some of Gopal Krishna Maharaja's visits to New Vrindaban. He seemed to be always seemed to admire and be on friendly terms with Kirtanananda Swami, although after Gopal Krishna Swami's visits, during darshans while Bhaktipada sat in the living room in his house across from the Palace, I heard Bhaktipada make quite a few negative comments about Gopal Krishna. 

A few days after Bhaktipada's death in October 2011, Gopal Krishna, in the company of Radhanath Swami, came to the Mohini Gosala cow shed in Vrindaban, India, and offered prostrate obeisances in the dust to his departed godbrother.

PADA: Gopal Krishna swami is a certified goofball, let us make him the messiah of the Jagat. They all knew he was not a pure devotee. All the worst elements of Hindu society are over taking ISKCON. False gurus, mayavada, Hindu weddings and car blessings business etc. One devotee said ISKCON is turning into another Jagganath Puri, the temple is full of Hindus, white people are not seen there. He calls it the Jagganath Puri-ization of ISKCON. Well yep.      

ISKCON BALRAMDESH

Last Desire of Srila Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaj ji

I have always been loyal to the governing body of ISKCON and teachings of Srila Prabhupada as reflecting in his books.

PADA: And that is why we promote illicit sex with men, women and children as Krishna's successors.

I would like all my disciples to follow GBC body ... I have never taken one step out of Iskcon.

PADA: Yeah, the GBC body is making ISKCON into a Hindu show bottle, and I am for that.

If I were to pass outside India.. I want my body to be bought to be bought to Vrindavan or Mayapur. If I were to pass away in North India, then I would want my samadhi to be in Vrindavan. If I were to pass away in Mayapur, then I would want my samadhi to be in Mayapur.

PADA: The leaders of the molester messiahs project deserve a samadhi in the dham. While PADA's friends avoid going to the dham -- to avoid being confronted by their goondas. 

*MY ONLY ASSET IS MY PERSONAL DIETIES AND I* *DON'T WANT THESE TO BE* *WORSHIPED BY* *INDIVIDUALS RATHER* *SHOULD BE KEPT IN MANDIR UNDER MY ZONES*

PADA: Wait? You said there are no more guru "zones" in 1986?


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CHILD ABUSE ISSUE

PADA: Thanks, but it is more complex than that. Sometimes victims feel better after countering their oppressors. There are all sorts of videos on youtube of people who were victims of cults, sometimes as children, and when they came out with their story, they felt better. And then other victims came out to verify and validate them and so on. 

And sometimes the leaders of these cults ended up in jail. At the same time, agreed, it is not a one size fits all cookie cutter, sometimes coming out is not beneficial. However, the boys who came out to protest the Church did feel better, in part because, they believed they were saving others from the same fate and encouraging other victims to come forward, which is what happened. Other victims were encouraged and then came forward. 

And sometimes women victims finally feel better when they expose their victimizers and they report them to law enforcement and etc. But yes, I always protect the privacy of victims and only report their story when they give me the release, because it is a private decision. Agreed. 

I have posted many of their stories only giving their initials, or not even their real initials and so on, to protect their privacy. Meanwhile, the question I always get from media folks etc is, if there are several thousand cases, why did none of the elders, parents, seniors -- or leaders -- have the perps -- or the cover up leaders who enabled the perps -- arrested? 

Yeah, the primary load should be on the adult parents and supervisors of children -- and leaders -- and not the victims. When the victims have to defend themselves, that means all the other guardrails collapsed or never existed. The CPO is a good idea and I support it, however it is not a legal entity and it has limited powers. 

If I know of a crime against a child happening, I am going to call law enforcement first, and the CPO second, and not vice versa. But overall I agree, when the victims are the first line of defense, then the other defense systems failed, and miserably. Children are defenseless, and making them their own defenders means, something is very wrong with that society. I get that entirely. ys pd

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RITVIKS ARE SUICIDAL?

PADA : The people who worship a pure devotee are --committing suicide? Because they are not worshiping no one and nothing? Worshiping nothing is called mayavada. Srila Prabhupada says the people who do not name the guru are mayavadas. Good news, some "new devotees" are just now helping us by donating funds for our reprint of the original Bhagavatams. They know who the guru is, and whose books they need to read and promote. This is amazing, anyone who worships a pure devotee is committing suicide, well good luck with that idea! ys pd

TAMAL'S TREATMENT OF CHILD ABUSE

PADA: When a mother -- who had collected millions of dollars for Tamal, told Tamal her two boys had been abused at his farm, he kicked her out on the street without a penny. So I helped her sue Tamal in the 1980s, and we won. And I told the ISKCON leaders this would happen again -- if they did not reign in the problems. Later on, I helped have them sued again, this time for $400,000,000. 

Tamal did not want to go to India to discuss the case in Mayapur, because he had a premonition something bad would happen if he went there. But Ravindra swarupa insisted that he go to the Mayapur meeting. So he went there, and just after the meeting, he was in a fatal car crash. Then his followers wrote to bitterly complain to me that I caused his departure by baiting him to go to India. But none of his followers ever wrote to tell me, jeepers, it is good that you tried to contain the child mistreatment problem. But yeah, attempts have been made to get justice, but instead of congratulating us for helping them contain the problem, we generally get blamed for making troubles for the society. And then more recently the India ICC bureau people wrote to tell me the reason I do not understand how gurus can be deviants and there can be mass problems under their rule is -- I am a mleccha. Same idea, they don't want to help me contain these issues. ys pd

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“TAMAL PREPARED A EUTHANASIA DEFENSE- Tamal was concerned that the poisoning was about to be discovered and he was rehearsing his explanation of the “mercy killing.” The poison discussions just prior to Srila Prabhupada’s departure must have gotten a number of people asking questions, and Tamal was surely gravely worried that the truth would become public. Perhaps rumors or leaks from those who knew of or suspected the poisoning, or from the “poison discussions’ when Srila Prabhupada spoke of being poisoned- could have pushed Tamal to talk about “medicine to die.” Many had discussed and heard about Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning on Nov. 9-10 and the news was spreading. 

Tamal was pressured to release his defense that Srila Prabhupada asked to be assisted in an immediate death. This sinister idea was intended as a clever defense in case the poisoning news got out of hand. Tamal was planting the seed of a radical concept, a rationale for a poisoning, doing the groundwork for a “mercy- killing” defense should it become public that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. 

In that case, Tamal could explain that it was Srila Prabhupada’s dying request. In Tamal’s book, TKG’s Diary, a careful reading for Oct. 1977 shows Tamal inserting several times claims Srila Prabhupada was speaking suicidally. On p. 219, he quotes Srila Prabhupada saying, “Better you don’t pray to Krishna to save me. Let me die now.” However, this is NOT found on the audio tapes and we think they are fabrications. These absurd claims are preposterous. Cadmium is an excellent manner in which to increase one’s suffering, not to ease or end it. Tamal claimed Srila Prabhupada wanted to die peacefully by being given “medicine,” which now we know was the poison cadmium? 

Make any sense? Interestingly Tamal never mentioned assisted suicide again after this one private interview in 1977, presumably because the poisoning issue lay well-enough concealed for 20 long years until it looked him back in the face. Even after the poison issue became very public due to discovery of the poison whispers in 1997, Tamal never revisited his mercy-killing claims. Why? He changed his mind, that’s why. It was typical of Tamal to come up with radical positions and then drop them, as with his Topanga Canyon confessions in 1980 and his support for Narayan Maharaja in 1995. This phenomenon is the hallmark of deviation and untruthfulness.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.299)




Crying Fest for Mr. Goofball Krishna 

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Saturday, May 4, 2024

Gopal health deteriorates / Jayapataka kids? / Bir Krishna vs disgruntled 05 04 24



PADA: What can I say? Mr. Nice guy Gopal Krishna swami is known for political thuggery. My friends who live in Vrndavana are afraid to even publicly mention any types of devotee abuse, burying deviants in samadhis, or any other issues -- because "the ISKCON people here are goondas." But he is really a sort of second tier manager and not one of the main dictators.

That being said, he is still a sort of God brother of mine, and thus I am not really wishing them either well or unwell, they have sort of made their own destiny by being false messiahs. They are taking a lot of karma without authority, boat loads in fact, and that never ends well. He has been sickly for a long time and we were sort of waiting for the situation to become a crisis, as it seems to have. Poor guy. He wanted to be worshiped and take karma, and that is a fatal flaw for any aspiring devotee.

And there are still people saying I am just envious of them because I am not a guru -- like them -- myself. Umm, no, I am not wanting to be in their shoes for all the gold on Mt. Sumeru.

His ex-wife has made a whole web site complaining about him and the Hare Krishna religion overall. He really knows how to burn people out. At the same time, I hate to beat up on a guy who is down, and he is.

He is going to be in for a short, sharp, shock when the Yamaduttas take him off to be held accountable for all sorts of crimes -- for example -- helping in making a homo and pedo guru system that bans, beats, molests, sues, and -- kills -- vaishnavas. Not going to produce a good future, guaranteed.

All his guru comrades are now saying wonderful things about him, how they are going to miss his holy presence etc. A few victims told me -- just see -- they cry when one of their own fellow guru clan of jokers is fallen down or is on death's door, but they don't even know if we victims are alive or not. They only care for fellow conspirators and not the victims. Yep.

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com

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GOPAL KRISHNA HEALTH UPDATE

According to Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja’s Health Care Team, he is in very very critical condition and prayers are urgently requested. He is currently on a ventilator and heart output is only 20%.

Dandavats: Gurudeva is on Ventilator. His heart is operating at 20% Capacity after his cardiac arrest at 2.30 pm. The Hospital Owner and all doctors are on the job trying their best. All you great Vaishnavas need to pray.

Respected Maharajas, Prabhujis, and Matajis,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

As you all may know Guru Maharaja was admitted on May 2nd, 2024 to the Synergy Institute of Medical Sciences, Dehradun where he is being closely monitored.

Therefore as informed yesterday the doctors had decided to discharge Guru Maharaja today. Dr. Dwarakadish Pr from Guru Maharaja's Health Care Team had arrived in Dehradun last night in an Ambulance from Fortis, Delhi.

While medically examining him this morning, the Doctors noticed that Guru Maharaja had developed severe pain and breathlessness and the situation was managed.

The Health Care Team and Doctors in ICU based on Maharaja's heath situation and the repeat X-ray this morning, decided that Maharaja should therefore stay back here in Dehradun for some time.

However Maharaja had a series of Cardiac arrests today starting 2.30 pm.
The capable team of doctors implanted a temporary pacemaker, essential medicine and an Intra Aortic Balloon Pump. However all this was not successful and Maharaja's kidneys are also weakening.

Request all senior Vaishnavas across the world to pray intensely and make your plans to reach Dehradun at the earliest. The doctors have done their best with the best possible facilities. Now it's up to Krishna.

Please pray.

We will continue to provide regular updates on his progress.
Your servants,

HH Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja Health Care Team

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4th May 2024, 6.05 pm

Camp: Synergy Institute of Medical Sciences Dehradun

Urgent Request by the GBC Executive Committee

Dear Devotees,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

With great urgency, we request the community of Vaisnavas to offer their sincere, heartfelt prayers at the lotus feet of Sri Sri Prahlad Nrsimhadeva to keep Their dear servant His Holiness Gopal Krishna Maharaj in the grace of Their merciful, protective glance.

Maharaj is an exemplary devotee, having lived a life of extraordinary dedication and surrender to his beloved spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada. Never wasting a moment, Maharaj renders service in so many capacities and with such expertise that in this time of failing health, we can know with full faith that Maharaj is directly under the shelter and guidance of His Divine Grace.

Nevertheless, as Srila Prabhupada directed his own disciples, we can approach our merciful Lord with the request that if He so desires, may our dear Gopal Krishna Maharaj recover his health and continue as an emblem of service and devotion in our midst.

At present, Maharaj has suffered three heart attacks and faces difficulty with kidney function. The doctors are trying their utmost to provide the highest level of care.

Please continue your prayers and join together for kirtan in your communities.

Hare Krishna,

Your servants,

Guru Prasad Swami
Tapana Misra Das
Govardhana Das,
GBC Executive Committee

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Jayapataka has kids?

PA Dasi: Open secret. Jayapataka Swami told me himself personally he has had 3 kids as a Sanyasi Guru and that he had fallen down a number of times from his vows but was trying his best to follow the orders of Srila Prabhupada and be a bona fide spiritual master.

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Bir Krishna vs Disgruntled    

In 2015, one of Bir Krishna Goswami’s female disciples read Satya’s 2010 public statements. This female disciple then asked Bir Krishna Goswami about the Lokanath child molestation case and his involvement in it, and he confirmed to his disciple that “yes, Satya’s account is what Lokanath confessed to [him] (and a team of others).” He asked her to remain silent for the sake of the society’s reputation, and if she could not remain silent, then she should avoid Lokanath.

This was not the first time that Bir Krishna Goswami knew about a case of child abuse and covered it up. In 2009, Bir Krishna Goswami concealed a child abuser in the Hillsborough, North Carolina community, an abuser who had previously sexually abused a child in another country.

Because Bir Krishna Goswami concealed a child abuser in his community, in 2011, the GBC issued a public censure to Bir Krishna Goswami in their 2011 Resolutions.

From the GBC Body’s letter to Bir Krishna Goswami:

“… you failed to properly report the incident to local authorities, or later to the CPO. Most significantly, the local community and householders were not notified or made or aware of this potential threat, contrary to ISKCON Law 3.5.5.1.3.9.

This put the community at risk and created serious potential exposure to repetition of these incidents.” https://gbc.iskcon.org/2011/

In 2021, when Lokanath’s child molestation case became more public, Bir Krishna Goswami contacted this disciple asking her to stop speaking publicly about the Lokanath case because her comments were “disturbing the disciples.” She pointed out that “Lokanath’s actions” and the actions of the GBC members who covered this up were the root of the problem and if Lokanath’s disciples were disturbed by him molesting a child, it was not because of her. She asked that this case be handled properly by finally going to the ISKCON Child Protection Office.

Note: Recently another ISKCON initiating guru asked his disciples to remain silent about a child abuser. When Dhanurdhara was trying to re-enter ISKCON as an initiating guru in 2020 (after he left on his own accord in 2006), Guru Prasad Swami told his disciples to remain silent, and not speak out about the abuses Dhanurdhara committed. Guru Prasad Swami went further to say that the victims were lying about their abuse. Guru Prasad Swami blamed the victims and their families, and portrayed Dhanurdhara as the victim. Guru Prasad Swami said that if his disciples commented on Dhanurdhara as a child abuser, they were committing offenses against a Vaishnava.

GURU PRASAD SWAMI – DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE

One month after Bir Krishna Goswami wrote to his female disciple asking her to again remain silent about Lokanath’s child molestation (first time was in 2015), Bir Krishna Goswami’s other male disciple wrote to her as well, asking her to remain silent, and threatening that she will get some kind of reaction if she does not remove her post, stating that by her asking for accountability for the abuse perpetrated by Lokanath, that he “knows for certain” she is “endangering” her relationship with Krishna, Guru, and the Vaishnavas and she is committing Vaishnava aparadha. The female disciple told the male disciple that if the GBC and Lokanath behaved properly, there would be no need for grassroots action.

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September 24-25, 2021

Communication between Bir Krishna Goswami and his female disciple.

BKG: My request is that you dont’ post anything further about Lokanatha Maharaj publicly. The matter is being dealt with and your statements are disturbing his disciples who are innocent persons caught in the middle of this.

Female Disciple: Excuse me, my actions are not disturbing his disciples and I will not take responsibility nor be blamed for their disturbance.

Lokanath’s actions are the root of this. The GBC including you are also the root of this. You yourself admitted to me that had you know the extent of abuse within our society you and your team never would’ve handled the situation as you did.

I am absolutely appalled that you would turn this around and attempt to make me the victimizer of his ‘innocence disciples’.

The thing I would have hoped most of this situation is you admitting you were wrong to ever ask me to hold his and your secret regarding the matter, prolonging the hurt and depth of hurt his disciples are feeling.

Your actions have created 5 years of me feeling dirty and have triggered post traumatic stress from events which occurred in my own childhood when not once but three separate times friends asked me to hold the secret of their sexual abuse and as a child I did, only to know as a grown up they were abused for years and had I told this would have changed.

Absolutely your request for me to not post anything further is legitimate, if this case actually is being passed on to the CPO.

However how you handled this case and me have absolutely damaged our relationship.

I am simply trying to please Srila Prabhupada, as are you I have so much respect and admiration for your example in so many areas. However this was a mistake and I along with so many others have become the victims. I make mistakes too and have to ask for forgiveness. I am ready to offer forgiveness but have to say your above request fallowed by directing blame at me, furthers my feelings of sadness and pain. How could my Guru do this? To implement me in this dirty secret and then tell me I’m disturbing others when I refuse to play along.

I’m so sad to have this scar in our relationship

BKG: I am not asking you to change your feelings. I am just saying that trial by Facebook is not appropriate and will not change anything.

Female Disciple: Thank you for acknowledging my feelings and my right to feel them and work through them.

Additionally I completely agree trial by social media is not appropriate, unfortunately the appropriate process was ignored by those who should have dealt with it.

As uncomfortable as it is for those who ignored or purposefully failed to appropriately handle this case it is only because of the attention being raised on social media that anything is changing.

I hope someday our relationship can heal from this and look forward to seeing your empower position work first in righting the wrong that has happened in regards to the case and then hope we have time to heal what it has done to our relationship

BKG: My comments were not specifically about LS. This is not about how it is affecting him. It is about others on the periphery such as his disciples, who are aware of what transpired. However the continual reminders on the internet are like rubbing salt onto wounds for them.

The process dealing with LS is happening. Whatever will happen will happen. I am not privy to it nor am I part of its decision making process. My concern is simply for those on the periphery. Their needs are important too as are your.

Mine are insignificant

Female Disciple: I want you to know that every single time I post, comment or even ‘like’ on social media I try to first think will this help others think of Krsna. If the answer is no I don’t do it. Two years ago I removed every single person whose posts didn’t help me think of Krsna.

I am extremely cautious about how I interact with each person. And try to be very guarded in my use of Social Media.

That said the interactions I have had with each of Lokanaths disciples and periphery people have been full of respect, and compassion for the position they are in. And with that I have still taken the time to ensure the truth it s what is being spoken.

In addition to a handful of comments I have posted regarding the Lokanath case I have also spent hours in prayer for his disciples both as a group and for individuals who have posted terrible hate letters to others in defense of their guru. Krsna they know not what they are doing.

I appreciate your encouragement to protect the innocent, as after all that is what this is all about.

I recognize the need to be responsible on social media. I am willing to take a break from online comments regarding this case as you have ensured me that proper due process is occurring.

I realize this due process most likely will bring to light the mistakes you and your team made years ago and I am praying for you and the others who let this happen. Like the spider who built Sri Rama’s bridge I understand my position but still I will pray.

In closing I want to say that I am thankful to you for attempting to protect me from any Vaishnava aparadha my online comments might create. And yet I have to tell you this communication of yours is very painful to me. In our 20 year relationship you have never once initiated contact with me. When we spoke a few months ago I . . . and that I myself am in the most vulnerable position I have ever been in, in my life.

And rather than check in on me or reach out to encourage me regarding any of these things, you contacted me to request me to continue to help save face in a lie you absolutely are involved in. It feels terrible that this is what you reached out to me about. All I can do is teaming grateful for the people Krsna has placed into my life to support and encourage me despite the reversals I am experiencing.

And continue to pray that healing is possible between you and I.

(screenshot of her interactions with one of Lokanath’s disciples)

BKG: I did not reach out to to save face. That’s a terrible accusation. I reached out to you because some ls disciples asked me to. To help them in their pain. I don’t even know what you posted nor have I read any of it

Be careful before you accuse someone of something.

Someone asks me for help I respond

I don’t care what some writes about me at all

Female Disciple: In Aug of 2015 I read Satya’s description of Lokanaths behavior and your involvement in handling the case.

I came to you seeking a fuller understanding and you explain to me that yes, Satyas account is what Lokanath confessed to you (and a team of others). You then told me that had you and your team known the extent of abuse that was in our society you never would have handled the situation the way that you did. I asked you how I should handle situations where Lokanaths disciples or others present his lectures, kirtans or speak of him. You told me I should avoid these situations and if I can’t to stay silent. You told me that for the truth to come out would cause to much upset for the thousands of his disciples and ISKCON India.

What I understood was that in order to save the appearance of a healthy society (face) I was to stay silent, keep the secret.

When the GBC publicly acknowledged the accusations and made a resolution that the case would finally be handled by the CPO (and then weeks later secretly recanted this decision) it caused a ripple and from this ripple many people began to speak lies. In the wake of this I have done nothing but reinforce the truth and then attempt to offer love, support and damage control., (none of which ever should have been my job but there it was for someone to do).

Through this I also have begun the process of healing from the position you put me into when you asked me to hold the secret.

I have repeated told you when you did this to me it cause me pain. And not once have you responded to me acknowledging your actions. You did say if someone asked for help you will respond. So I am asking for help. Will you please help me heal from the situation you put me into, when you asked me to keep Lokanaths actions a secret? Will you please help me heal? Will you please pray for my continued advancement in Krishna consciousness? Will you please speak to me about anything other than this case because I am every day struggling to add Krsna to my life that is full of hardships, such as … And for the first time you are reaching out to me but only because some other person asked you for help, when they accused me of inappropriate posts. And you believed them when you self admitted you never even took the time to see what I was writing, and never asked me what I was writing.

This whole conversation between you and I is absolutely terrible. I love Srila Prabhupada and will do my best to chant attentively every day and read from his books and love each person recognizing them as precious to Krishna. I am not nor will I ever be one of your ‘golden’ disciples but I pray you at least will not discredit me to our beloved Srila Prabhupada. I am sure I have by now completely qualified myself as offensive and in closing know no other action than to ask for forgiveness for this.

BKG: Dear [Female Disciple],

Please accept my blessings. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thanks for sharing what you posted.

Actually you got what I said wrong. I said if I knew about the new allegations and the extent of them I would have acted differently. there are allegations that I wasnt aware of and have not been proven that were not known in the beginning about the same person, not our society. I perhaps did not express it clearly enough. I have not asked you to keep anyone’s actions a secret. All the allegations are completely public. I wanted our conversation to be confidential, which was not honored. I have no new allegations. I was aware of new allegation by reading the public internet. Anyway you can say anything you want about me publicly or otherwise. I just am concerned for the devotees who contacted me.

I hope this meets you in good health.

your ever well-wisher,

Bir Krishna das Goswami

Female Disciple: Thank you for this explanation. Based on what I understood I felt it was best to share. I am sorry that based on my understanding I broke your confidence.

I don’t know what you heard but want to express that I have never spoken anything disrespectful about you, and have even defended you and your dedication to Srila Prabhupada. In one comment I posted (which is in a screenshot I posted above,) I said “HH Bir Krishna Goswami is absolutely doing his best to serve Srila Prabhupada and is in good standing amongst ISKCON, despite his inaction in the dealing with of Lokanath…”

I know this situation is not easy for all of us who have become entangled into it. I will continue to pray for you and him and all of us. And hope you will pray for me that I might be pleasing to Srila Prabhupada and succeed in remembering Krsna more and more every day. I am trying so hard!!!

BKG: I am pleased with you. We are all doing the best we can given a very difficult situation. dont worry

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October 24, 2021

Communication between Bir Krishna Goswami’s male disciple and Bir Krishna Goswami’s female disciple.

Male Disciple: whatever you’re hearing from the likes of the leaders of this witch-hunt against Maharaja is simply imagination, at best. Again, you are free to think and say whatever you like, but you’re never free from the reactions of those statements, especially when made publicly.

Additional to my own personal pain, and the potential pain that this may cause my wife, I’m deeply concerned with your own well-being. Even if there were Vaisnava aparadha committed by someone, responding with additional aparadha is no solution at all.

In conclusion, please continue to do as you think best regarding participation in whatever Krishna consciousness there may be, including TOVP events. But when you make public statements to this effect, KNOW FOR CERTAIN that you are endangering your relationship with Krishna, Guru, and all struggling Vaisnavas. Please take down that post.

Female Disciple: I can understand that it is especially hard because you were led to believe a certain set of circumstances existed and based on those circumstances, you were led to believe just actions had taken place and all of this was supposed to be in the past.

Unfortunately the circumstances that were presented to the GBC originally were not the full truth.

Here is a direct quote from BKG in a recent personal message to me. Regarding what was know at the time and what is now know.

“…if I knew about the new allegations and the extent of them I would have acted differently. there are allegations that I wasnt aware of … that were not known in the beginning about the same person (LS).”

I have not met Satya but I have read her statements. Upon doing so 5 years ago, I immediately contacted BKG because of his involvement and my desire to understand the truth. He let me know that the allegations against LS are 100% true and that the course of action the GBC took was not substantial enough in handling the case. He also let me know that even the recommended course of actions from the GBC from back in the 90’s in fact have not been followed.

He confided in me that it would be best if more could be done and then have in so many words told me at this point the greater priority is preserving disciples of LS rather than retrospective justice.

I asked how I should behave in the association of those who present LS’s Kirtans and lecture. BKG advised me to avoid LS and any situation involving him and if I cannot that I should basically pretend I don’t know.

For 5 years I have been made to feel dirty by having to hold this secret. It has been traumatic for me. As a child I attended three different schools and in each of them I had a different friend who was actively being sexually abused by her parent, each of them confided in me and asked me to keep it a secret so that her parent did not get in trouble. As an adult I now recognize that if I had spoken up I could have stopped 3 girls from receiving further abuse. As an adult I will not be closeted. By allowing LS and others with actions like his to go unchecked we have created a society that harvers abusers. It is rampant and it is beyond time for that to change.

I am sorry this necessary re-opening of the case, based on facts that those who were closer to the case than you were not aware of, is difficult to process, and is causing you and so many others pain.

I am even more sorry that those who should be acting (GBC who now has more knowledge) and should be minimizing the effect for deciples like your wife are not. It is there (the GBC’s) in-action which is requiring this grassroots action to take place.

They are then trying to gaslight us into believing that we are the ones damaging LS disciples rather than they themselves. I will not be subjected by this abuse.

My post is genuine and honest!!! Myself and many others had to miss out on something that should have been a grand celebration for all, because the GPC failed to follow their own guidelines! And we refuse to pretend that that is okay.

Enclosing I again reiterate that I am sorry for your pain but beg of you to identify the true source of your pain which is not this grassroots call for proper justice to be served but the actions which are being held accountable and have stemmed this whole crack in Srila Prabhupadas beautiful society.

I beg you to please write LS and ask him to step down as an ISKCON guru and continue his preaching from a platform that more represents who he truely is.
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Friday, May 3, 2024

Gopal Krishna Health / PADA's Messiah Complex / Shastra Advisors + Karma 05 03 24

PLEASE PRAY FOR HH GOPAL KRISHNA GOSWAMI MAHARAJ 

Dear respected Maharajas, Prabhujis, and Matajis,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

On the morning of May 2nd, 2024, HH Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja slipped in his bathroom and suffered an injury. While there were no external injuries, he has developed a dark red scar on his lower right back.

As a precautionary measure, we took Maharaja to the hospital for an x-ray and comprehensive examination. The doctors' findings revealed that Maharaja has sustained two rib fractures and pneumothorax (air in the lung area).

He was admitted to Synergy Multi Specialist Hospital for a two to three day observation period where he is being closely monitored. We are relieved to report that Guru Maharaja is feeling better now. We kindly request the global community of devotees to offer their prayers for Maharaja's health and well-being. We will continue to provide regular updates on his progress.

Your servants,

HH Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaja Health Care Team

PADA: The GBC guru empire is collapsing, and that is all there is to it. ys pd

LET THEM EAT CAKE!
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PADA's Messiah Complex!

PADA: Thanks G Dasa for telling me that I am another person suffering from "messiah complex" -- because I am not any different than the GBC gurus -- and thus I believe I am -- "God's agent on Earth" -- same as many psychiatric patients. Well ya got me there pardner! 

However, I have also said that the Berkeley police are "agents of Krishna," because they saved my life from the dangerous Hansadutta Harry Critters. In one sense, every living entity everywhere is an "agent of Krishna," because Krishna is dictating to -- and directing -- all the wanderings of all of us. Of course, some of us are acting, or trying to act, in cooperation with Krishna. 

Some others, ok not cooperating so much. I just polished some outside lights here, and the next day they were covered with a swarm of those teeny red clover mites, about the size of a pin head. These living entities were once humans, and they wanted to continue to be forgetful of Krishna. I am pretty much just trying to avoid being back in that situation rather than being the next messiah.   

But I do NOT think that just because a person is making an attempt to fix a corrupt organization, even a mundane organization, or to serve Krishna, that means the "reformer" person thinks they are some sort of ultimate agent of God or a messiah. Any person who tries to serve Krishna is certainly trying to be "an agent of Krishna," or a representative of Krishna. That would include all devotees. A kindergarten child might be trying to become another PHD professor, but he generally realizes he is not yet a professor himself.

To say anyone making an attempt to serve God is thinking they are on the same level as a messiah is simply, incorrect. I think you are telescoping a neophyte -- who is at the beginning stage -- with the completely realized person. The neophyte might be doing the same external activity as a pure devotee, but that does not mean the neophyte has the same internal realization.

Anyway! I had to bring out issues -- like the molesting issue -- and that made me very unpopular with almost all the Harry Critters. And my atheist lady friend thinks pretty much as you do -- she thinks I have a sort of psychotic death wish to become a sort of martyr, thinking I am some sort of agent of divine law, because my opponent people wanted to take me out. But the problem is, she is also going to die, so will you, and so will all of us. Our lives are an ongoing process that goes on forever. 

And where we begin in the next life -- is all according to what credit or discredit we get in this life for either serving or not serving Krishna. I am just trying to get a little credit for doing a little service, and hopefully, I won't end up as a clover mite. 

But many people have said -- I just wanted to be another guru, I wanted to take over ISKCON, I wanted ISKCON's money -- and all that. Honestly, the money ISKCON has -- all of it -- was ultimately stolen or usurped from the pure devotee, the children of ISKCON, the deities, the BBT etc. and therefore I sort of see it as blood money. I am not really that interested in taking the karma of handling that money.  
   
All that being said, look at what happens to actual messiahs. Jesus, Srila Saraswati Thakur, Srila Prabhupada and others -- not treated very nicely. I would not want to be in those shoes --  unless Krishna absolutely insisted I had to. It is no picnic being a messiah, and to think I would want to be in those shoes, is a mistake on your part. Apart from all that, I am not sure how you would have done any better than me, or that you have a better plan to fix things right now. 

To criticize is easy, to do better, not so easy. But yeah, Krishna wanted some folks to bring out some of these issues, and He could not find too many volunteers. I signed up to help, and therefore He used me -- at least for some part of the show -- not because I am a great helper -- it is just that since others were not volunteering, Krishna had to use the -- not so great -- helper volunteers He could find. 

In the end -- I am an agent of Krishna, but so are the Berkeley police, and so are the many other people who helped us. But that does not mean any of us are thinking we are messiahs, it means -- Krishna uses different tools to get the job done. 

And that is also why it is said that the bee can chase the bear. The bee is very teeny, the bear is very huge, but the bee can chase away the bear, and that is how Krishna sometimes gets things done, he uses different methods, and we are all part of His process. And if you want to become free of being in the material world, then me, you, my Atheist lady friend, all of us, will have to become an agent of Krishna ourselves. Or we stay here and become clover mites. There is no other option.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com     

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GBC Shastra Advisors 

Lenny Sislac: ISKCON's Sastric Advisory Council (SAC) and Spiritual Advisors Bhagavata Assembly (SABHA) teach that there has to be a living guru to give initiation. The diksa-guru has to be physically present so to speak -- to absorb the karma of the disciple. 

PADA: Oh great, how is that working out?

However, the main guru of the Brahma-sampradaya is Narada Muni. Narada Muni is the guru of almost all important devotees - Valmiki Muni, Prahlada Maharaja, Druva Maharaja, Srila Vyasadeva, etc., etc. But Narada Muni has a spiritual body. He does not appear in a physical body in front of his disciples. 

Narada Muni can travel everywhere even to Vaikuntha. His disciples lived in different yugas like Satya yuga, Treta yuga, Dvapara yuga. But Narada initiated them all without being the current guru in the line of disciplic succession, parampara. So this is wrong that a guru needs to be physically present and when a guru passes away he can no longer initiate new devotees. 

"Nārada Muni, the most exalted of Vaiṣṇavas and the most important guru and ācārya of Vaiṣṇavas." >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation
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Thursday, May 2, 2024

Kalakantha's ISKCON History / Puppy Catches Car / Shilavati Departs 05 02 24

 

PADA: Yeah we are going to have thousands of gurus making millions of disciples. Where do I sign up? Ooops, aren't we are instead going to have -- thousands and thousands of devotees kicked out of ISKCON, and perhaps as many as thousands of children complaining of being abused. 

And a number of these ex-kids live around here. And they tell me -- the religion is still promoting all the SAME EXACT leaders that made our lives hell when we were kids, thus we are never going to support that or go back to that institution. And we are going to have millions all right, millions of dollars spent on lawsuits.  

And then -- we are going to have thousands and thousands of world media newspapers -- all over the world -- writing horrible stories over and over, about all the scandals, crimes, lawsuits, gurus shooting at occupied buildings, mass child molesting lawsuits etc. -- ALL being created by these "gurus." 

So they created what some child victims call "Auschwitz for kids" and that was never going to be popular or practical. Sorry, your living gurus idea is not working. Srila Prabhupada should have been the guru for ISKCON, and we should have been his servants and assistants, and not his parampara acharya successors and replacements. 

Unfortunately, these guys like Kalakantha still think we should have made gurus, and I am sorry to report this, but your gurus created banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders -- and not a happy Vaishnava community. 

When I came to Berkeley in 1985, one of the Hansadutta people told me -- there are only three Prabhupada devotees left here. One is Hansadutta, one is a bank robber, and one is gay. So that means, making these people into gurus was and is, a mistake, it emptied out the temples and all the rest of it. And then, as the Berkeley police told me over and over, "Berkeley temple is a criminal operation posing as a religion." That is the result of your living guru experiment. It failed, and miserably.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
       

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LD: Mathura Pati reminds me the puppy who chases the car. He finally catches up with the car. Now he realizes ... taking down the car ... not going to be easy. 

PADA: Yeah, it is sad. Another devotee said -- "Mathura Pati wants to work with Purujit, who agrees with Jayadvaita's statements on changing the books. He will compromise with the book changers for 'unified preaching.' But he hates the people who want and print original books, and he even says that the people printing original books [like our program] need to die and go to hell."

So yeah, he unites with the wrong people all the time, after he already united with the promoters of the molester messiah's program's leader Saint Radhanath. Yep, lots of molesting was going on in Saint Radhanath's project. OK, also murders. OK also burying pedophiles in samadhis. That is the program we need to "unite with for preaching." But should we "unite" with the program that opposes the pedophiles in samadhi program? Nope!

My Atheist lady friend calls me "Harry Critter." I told her how there are some "Krishna devotees" out there who hate me -- and they want me to die and go to hell. 

She said, "people who are consumed with hate, envy, desire to see others suffer and die ... are already in hell. They are in hell now and do not have to wait to go there. They are burning in the fire of their own self-made envy already." Hmmm, she tells me she does not believe in God, but I know the whole back story. God made her, and He made her much smarter than most devotees, heh heh heh. 

Of course, she is always smiling and happy to see a Vaishnava, which makes her way more advanced than many of our opponents, who are never happy to see a Vaishnava. She understands more about spiritual things than they ever will. 

God blesses the people who are happy to see a Vaishnava, and the people cursing at Vaishnavas -- are already cursed by God. Another few devotee ladies told me they lost all sympathy for Mathura Pati when he began promoting his child porn arrested friend, that was the last straw for them. "Child porn friendly people have no place in the Vaishnava community. They caused all this mess in the first place. We've got to get rid of them." Yep.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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PADA: Yes prabhu, we had Tamal sued in 1986 for child mistreatment and that was a warning, but he just told me to go stick it and shut up. So then we had to have him sued for $400,000,000 later on. And then the GBC put worse deviants in charge of Mayapur as a means of fixing that problem. Yep, the situation for the children actually GOT WORSE. And then Tamal went to India to discuss the lawsuit, and he was taken out on a car crash, and then his idiot followers blamed me for baiting him to go to Mayapur! ys pd

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Shilavati departs

Dear Friends,

My dear godsister, Shilavati Devi Dasi has just left this world. In her last days, she was taking shelter of the kind devotees at New Vrndavana, especially her caretaker, my godsister, Gopalasapriya Prabhu.

Shilavati, along with her two young sons, met Visnujana Swami in San Francisco. She was so moved by his deep spirituality. He brought her to the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada, and she took initiation from Srila Prabhupada, in 1969, I believe.

Shilavati was older and more mature than the rest of us, and she had led a lifetime of profound spiritual inquiry and faith, even before taking shelter of the path of Krsna Bhakti.

Shilavati became the pujari for the Radha Damodar Deities when They traveled with the 'Road Show' led by Visnujana and Kirtanananda Swamis. Later she was personally trained in Deity worship by Srila Prabhupada, in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles temple was, at that time, ISKCON's flagship temple and world headquarters. 

Srila Prabhupada was sending devotees from all over the world to learn the standards of temple worship from Shilavati there in Los Angeles.
To me, Shilavati Prabhu was always the pinnacle of saintliness and all Vaisnavi qualities. I pray that our dear Lordships, Sri Sri Radha Krsna will bless her journey home to Their lotus feet!
All the best,
Rukmini Walker

PADA: I saw her doing the deity pooja a few times. Very dedicated soul, very dear to Krishna, and we wish her all the best. God speed spirit soul! ys pd

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Wednesday, May 1, 2024

Radhanath's "The Journey Home" -- or to somewhere else?

The GBC said 75% of their current work is in India.
And that is also where Radhanath's main program is.  







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PADA: thanks for your question D Dasi. Yes, pretty much all of the bona fide Prabhupadanugas have rejected Bhakta das and his "Saint Radhanath." In fact, the GBC's biggest hero writer Bhakti Vikas swami wrote a paper that was criticizing Radhanath's "The Journey Home" -- as covered mayavada. Ooops, except then BVKS wrote a retraction and apology. Probably the GBC forced him to do so.

And many others have wrote papers to criticize the writings of Radhanath, and how he and his "motivational speakers disciples" rarely mention Prabhupada or Krishna, and how there is a lot of sentimental / new age / feel good / nonsense / Hindu Hodge podge / mayavada / mixed into their speaking. OK it is tinged with mayavada overall. 

And meanwhile there are big questions about Radhanath's role in "managing" New Vrndavana where there had been all sorts of abuses, and the possible role he had in the assassination of Sulochana. So why, at this stage, would the GBC and / or people like GBC defender Mathura Pati try to promote Bhakta dasa's Saint Radhanath, knowing how defective he is, and his connections to mayavada, and maybe, murder?

And the answer is simple, likes attract. They would rather listen to the mayavadas who are connected to abuse and maybe murder, than listen to us. Because they are like minded. 

Anyway, I think you should study the writings of Kaliya Mardan on this topic because he has done a pretty thorough overhaul. I am one of the people who believes Radhanath has had a large role in the overall corruption at New Vrndvana, probably Sulochana's departure and my near departure. 

And I also know ex-children from there who just despise the man. So he has made a lot of victims / enemies along the way. And yes, it is amazing that a person with his track record has become the darling of the GBC, and Bhakta das, and his disciples like Mathura Pati. But the short answer is no, none of the bona fide Prabhupadanugas accept Bhakta's Saint Radhanath as a bona fide authority. And yes, Radhanath's writings are also full of defects, same reason, he listens to bogus people and does not consult us.    

ys pd

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The Journey Home Debunked

Kaliya Mardana dasa presents a forceful defense of Srila Prabhupada’s original mission in this critical review of Radhanatha Swami’s book, The Journey Home, in which he accuses the ISKCON institution’s Governing Body Commission (GBC) of supporting impersonalist (mayavada) contamination of that mission through their endorsement of the book.

From Chapter 39:

There is an extremely urgent need to utterly wipe out and destroy Mayavada all over the world. That is because impersonalism spells death to the public at large and sends them one and all to hell. Destruction of Mayavada can only be achieved through preaching genuine Krishna consciousness in its pure form exactly as Shrila Prabhupada taught. Wiping impersonalism off the face of the earth will not come about by making convenient adjustments to the words of the spiritual master just to please the ignorant public at large. Not only is impersonalism a direct offense against the Supreme Lord Who is always a person, but to deny the transcendental form of the Lord is also the worst form of ingratitude.

Krishna, God, is giving everything—yet the individual who is deluded by impersonalism thinks that all such benefits he enjoys are automatically supplied for his sense pleasure. With no appreciation or thankfulness he sees no need to recognize from where and from whom, as the Christians say, “all blessings flow.” In this world of conditioned entities there is no sin equal to ingratitude. 

The only way to teach genuine thankfulness for the kindness shown by the Supreme Lord is through this personalist philosophy of Krishna consciousness. Keep in mind that only Shrila Prabhupada and none other gave this understanding of an unadulterated path that can deliver the entire world. This is not fanaticism, but rather verified historical fact.

Yet, with the advent of The Journey Home into the temples of Shrila Prabhupada, a GBC of loose cannons has now turned the Krishna consciousness movement 180 degrees away from the intended direction established by the Founder-Acharya. The GBC’s open door policy to Mayavadi cheaters and scoundrels who pose as yogis and avataras (but who are actually wholesalers of sense gratification in the guise of spiritual practices) is an oblique deviation from the teachings that they are avowed to uphold. 

The GBC has refused to wake up because—as Shrila Prabhupada stated many times — you cannot awaken a man who is pretending to be asleep. In other words, even though they know better, these pretentious “elders” act as if their Radhanatha’s "The Journey Home" is some new form of advancement in preaching Krishna consciousness that has now become acceptable to a rising generation. 

Rather than maintaining the steady and secure course of the eternal disciplic succession, they have offensively instituted “out with the old and in with the new.” They have compromised and watered down the teachings of the Founder-Acharya to the extent that, as Krishna told Arjuna, “the message has been lost.”

Such forms of deviousness—willful divergence from the standard practices and principles of parampara on the part of ISKCON’s GBC—are the most serious of all offences. Let us give as the example of the “three-time loser,” a criminal who stands convicted of a crime for the third time. In a court of law, the “three-time loser” or repeat offender is given the maximum sentence under the law. 

Such a dull-witted deviant should have learned his lesson if not the first time in court, then surely during his second appearance before the judge. In the same way, those who know better but who refuse to do better are considered incorrigible and are handed the stiffest sentences. 

Similarly, this is the law of material nature, the law of karma. Certainly a severe sentence will be the fate of the all those “devotees” who are involved with distributing The Journey Home. Not only the author and the GBC who promote it (including those GBCs who sit silently on the sidelines and do not speak up against this outrage to the Founder-Acharya) but every other devotee who is involved in the distribution of this Mayavadic so-called literature. This means that all the so-called devotees who translate, type, print, and distribute Radhanath’s anti-devotional nonsense in the form of The Journey Home must someday pay the consequences for straying from the prescribed path into the dark wilderness where lurk the dangerous beasts.
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