ISKCON's "Current" Molester Gurus / Sridhara Srinivasa dasa etc. 04 09 25

PADA: Dear Bhaktin F. thanks for your question: "Our temple says there are no pedophiles in their guru system -- currently. They were there in the past but have been removed. How can we be sure there are no pedophiles in their current system"? 

We might have to ask the question, what kind of guru chain from God "sometimes" or "at different times" contains pedophiles, and sometimes does not? And why would the first wave of post-1978 gurus, which does contain pedophiles, have the authority to vote in the next wave? The guru is qualitatively the same as God in purity, therefore -- sometimes pedophiles are gurus. What? 

In other words, even if one of their gurus is not a pedophile, many of them -- or you might say all of the later add ons -- were subsequently voted into a guru system that does contain pedophiles. So if a person is "voted in" to a guru system that contains pedophiles, it means he is contaminated by the pedophile gurus in his system. A chain is only as good as any one of the individual links is. We cannot replace an anchor chain link on the Queen Mary's anchor with a piece of sweater fuzz, it won't work. 

First of all, any guru who is in their system since 1978 is still in their system, since all guru parampara member's positions are permanent, or are actually eternal. Srila Prabhupada, Lord Chaitanya are our gurus past and current -- and always will be. There is no adding and subtracting from a chain of gurus from God. 

All links in Krishna's guru parampara remain there now and forever. Therefore, we do not commonly find the ISKCON leaders saying, the fallen gurus in their system are not, were not, could not have been gurus. They were gurus, but they say -- gurus fail and fall commonly.  

Yet there are no examples of "eternal links" in God's ACTUAL guru system or succession being added, and then being eliminated later due to deviations. Of course, the next question is, if there were -- or still are -- deviants and pedophiles in the ISKCON GBC guru system, then the people who annointed, enabled and placed these deviants into the alleged guru succession parampara from God, are also not gurus. 

But to answer your question specifically, yes, there still are CURRENT pedophiles in the GBC guru system, such as Lokanath swami. There may be others, but who can say for sure since these leaders have very private and hidden life styles. And worse, life can be very miserable for a dissenter or a person exposing these gurus. 

Giriraja swami for example was exposed as a disciple molester, but as far as we know, he is still being recognized as some sort of guru. Now he is STILL a guru, allegedly with dementia, which is causing him to have his material skirt chasing desires. 

Thus, if a guru who has sex with a follower is the same as a father having sex with his daughter, according to Srila Prabhupada, then we have had a lot of de facto pedophiles in their system. Unfortunately, there are many apologists in ISKCON and even among my own God brothers, who have rationalized that acharyas are commonly falling into material illusion, if not highly degraded failures. 

For example we also have people like Bhakta das -- still apologizing for the GBC guru system like his allies -- who are upset we are opposing people like "Saint Radhanath." OK but Saint Radhanath helped bury a known homosexual pedophile in a samadhi. Thus we have current pedophiles -- and previous pedophiles -- still being worshiped now. We also have their porno watching swami now "eternally resting" in a samadhi in the holy dham. OK this guy is resting on the lower planets and not with Krishna in Vrndavana currently.

So they are still promoting the worship of deviants, past or present. However in a guru parampara from God Almighty, past or present is not an issue, all the gurus in the chain from God are part of the chain forever. In other words, we cannot say this person -- has been deviating -- but he is still considered as a past or present link in God's guru chain. Deviating people are not, were not, could not have been -- in the guru chain from God. 

Later on, Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU folks became infuriated that I was not agreeing to help them promote their Bhakta dasa / Saint Radhanath program, that buries pedophiles in the dham, assassinates dissenters, poisons pure devotees etc. Worse, they collectively said their homosexual and pedophile guru system is "the Golden Body of God and Guru." Of course, even the average Joe six pack on the sidewalk already knows a homosexual and pedophile guru system is not "The Golden Body of God."

I also have a number of homosexual friends here in San Francisco -- and none of them -- actually zero percent of them, believe that any of the other homosexuals around here are "The Golden Body of God." They are more advanced than this lot, hence they mainly worship Jesus. 

In fact HKC Jaipur thug Prahlad said he was sending my photo to his homosexual and pedophile guru program's enforcers to have me silenced. So, they even want to have the people who are not promoting their "Golden Body of God" pedophile messiahs -- taken out. And that is why people ask me, what is the difference between them and the GBC? Sorry, PADA has no inclination to help promote homosexual and pedophiles as acharyas programs, just not going to happen. 

For his part Sridhara Srinivasa dasa recently told some of our folks essentially -- that the system of worshiping pure devotees is meant to be temporary, while they are physically present, but after that -- the floodgates open and we can follow the Bhakti Vikas swami program of worshiping illicit sex with men, women and children, pedophiles, drunks and so on as "God's successors." 

Where does Krishna say worship of His pure devotee is a temporary process? Sorry, worship of the pure devotee is an eternal process, or perhaps a life after life process, but at no point does it end and become replaced with worship of homosexuals and pedophiles etc. 

Worse, their India Continental Commitee (ICC) folks told me the reason I am not promoting illicit sex and / or drunken deviants as messiahs is "you are a mleccha." OK, that is correct, us mlecchas do not promote the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as their messiahs. 

The ICC are also big promoters of Lokanath and many other deviants as messiahs. Anyway, yeah, the ISKCON process after 1978 promotes "living" pedophiles, or de facto pedophiles, and promotes a process of departed pedophiles buried in samadhis etc., and / or then they vote in more people as the guru successors to their pedophile gurus. None of this is authorized. ys pd 

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krishna1008: Sridhara Srinivasa (Coimbatore) / BVKS / Hansadutta / Avadhoot Cancer 08 15

Mayesvara dasa: Thanks! Yep, as thousands of children were getting severely messed up in your system, you guys made fun of me and Sulochana and others for objecting. We all know the odious results. And you are proud of the results self evidently. You don't need to listen to me, thousands and thousands of your victims can tell you -- I was right about what they experienced. And for that matter Nori is another of your system's victims. But I like this, it perfectly explains why we had to have your program sued for $400,000,000, you would rather spend $400,000,000 than listen to me, so be it! ys pd 

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"So illusory energy is not bad. Illusory energy is another face of Rādhārāṇī."

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"When one understands Durgā properly, he is immediately liberated, for Durgā is originally the spiritual potency, hlādinī-śakti…"

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"Kṛṣṇa says specifically in Bhagavad-gītā that prakṛti, māyā, is working under His directions. Māyā is the maidservant of Kṛṣṇa..."

Teachings of Lord Kapila, the Son of Devahuti: 

TLK 10: Spiritual Attachment and Material Detachment : 

TLK 18: "So He has given us little independence because we are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is fully independent. He does not depend on anyone. But although we have got independence to a certain extent, but under the control of māyā. In the spiritual life there is also māyā. That is called yoga-māyā.And in the material life there is also māyā. That is called mahā-māyā, Durgā. So we, being very little... Just like small children. He is given either to the mother for taking care or to the nurse for taking care. The little child must be taken care of, either by the mother or an appointed nurse, maidservant."

Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.41 -- Bombay, January 16, 1975

"To give service to the Lord, yogamāyā appeared along with mahāmāyā. Mahāmāyā refers to yayā sammohitaṁ jagat, “one who bewilders the entire material world.” From this statement it is to be understood that yogamāyā, in her partial expansion, becomes mahāmāyā and bewilders the conditioned souls. In other words, the entire creation has two divisions—transcendental, or spiritual, and material. Yogamāyā manages the spiritual world, and by her partial expansion as mahāmāyā she manages the material world. 

As stated in the Nārada-pañcarātra, mahāmāyā is a partial expansion of yogamāyā. The Nārada-pañcarātra clearly states that the Supreme Personality has one potency, which is sometimes described as Durgā. The Brahma-saṁhitā says, chāyeva yasya bhuvanāni bibharti durgā [Bs. 5.44]. Durgā is not different from yogamāyā. When one understands Durgā properly, he is immediately liberated, for Durgā is originally the spiritual potency, hlādinī-śakti, by whose mercy one can understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead very easily. 

Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī-śaktir asmād [Adi 1.5]. The mahāmāyā-śakti,however, is a covering of yogamāyā,and she is therefore called the covering potency. By this covering potency, the entire material world is bewildered (yayā sammohitaṁ jagat). In conclusion, bewildering the conditioned souls and liberating the devotees are both functions belonging to yogamāyā."

SB 10.1.69 :

Prabhupāda: Mahāmāyā. Mahāmāyā, the illusory energy. (chuckling) So illusory energy is not bad. Illusory energy is another face of Rādhārāṇī. Those who do not want to worship Kṛṣṇa, for them illusory energy is there.

Lectures : Initiations : Initiations -- New York, July 24, 1971

"In the above-quoted verse from Bhagavad-gītā, the words daivīṁ prakṛtim refer to the control of the internal potency, or pleasure potency, of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This pleasure potency is manifested as Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, or Her expansion Lakṣmī, the goddess of fortune. 

When the individual jīva souls are under the control of the internal energy, their only engagement is the satisfaction of Kṛṣṇa, or Viṣṇu. This is the position of a mahātmā. If one is not a mahātmā, he is a durātmā, or a cripple-minded person. Such mentally crippled durātmās are put under the control of the Lord’s external potency, mahāmāyā.

Indeed, all living entities within this material world are under the control of mahāmāyā, whose business is to subject them to the influence of threefold miseries"

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"When you are being gradually advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is the action of yogamāyā. And when you are gradually forgetting Kṛṣṇa, that is the action of mahāmāyā. Māyā is acting upon you. The one is dragging you, and one is pushing you opposite way. Yogamāyā."

Lecture
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Seattle, October 18, 1968

"Similarly, mahamaya is horrible to the conditioned soul, but to the liberated soul, there is no fear of mahamaya, because he is protected by yogamaya. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gita when Krishna said the following: "I am not visible to everyone on account of being curtained by yogamaya.'' So when a conditioned soul surrenders unto Krishna, the yogamaya winds up the curtain and Krishna is visible to the devotee. "

Letters : 1968 Correspondence : July : Letter to: Madhusudana -- Montreal 29 July, 1968 : 68-07-29

"When the demon is thus set right and surrenders to Her will, the Mahamaya then manifests Her real entity in the Form MahaLaxmi engaged in the eternal service of Śrī Narayana, and at that time She gives Her son all facilities for the service of the Father, assisted will all opulence, all power, all fame, all beauties, all knowledge and all renunciation."

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