Sunday, December 1, 2024

Bangladesh is a Mess Update 12 01 24



PADA: ISKCON CPO has come out saying that the person at the center of the Bangladesh controversy "Chinmoy" is a child molester. Oh swell, it seems almost like "child molester" follows "ISKCON" like a shadow. And then PADA gets blamed for making ISKCON look bad, when all of this is public media information. 

I cannot confirm if he is a molester or not, but it is not a good look for the public in any case that such a prominent person is linked to child molesting. And it thus looks like the GBC is not doing "due diligence" in vetting its people or spokesmen etc., --- again.  

Well yeah, ISKCON and other Hindu organizations feed the folks having floods and other problems in Bangladesh, and then the same people they feed come and attack the Hindus later. That seems to be true. 

Meanwhile the "Chinmoy Krishna dasa" person at the center of this current crisis was evidently once part of ISKCON, but after he was arrested for sedition, ISKCON seems to have dropped all connection to him. Thus Chinmoy Krishna das is now being condemned by ISKCON's CPO as a child sexual abuser. This always begs the question, how long ago was this discovered? And could something have been done earlier to disconnect him from ISKCON?   

Oh oh, and that child molester issue seems to be a recurring problem with others in ISKCON of the West Bengal area. Some say -- it looks like this child abuse issue was made recently as trumped up charges to disconnect him from ISKCON. 

I don't know, but the whole thing looks like a big mess. A few people have said he deserves to be arrested and should get bad karma because he is a molester. Well maybe, but that is not going to actually fix the problem of Hindus being repressed over there. Nor is it going to fix the problem with ISKCON having child molesters sprouting up here and there, and everywhere.

And Hindus have been slaughtered in purges in various other places in the past, and that possibility still hangs over them now. So it is not good that Hindus are persecuted anywhere -- and India seems to have a weak policy on helping them. Just look at Kashmir. Too little too late, and it is still not very safe, or settled there. 

Meanwhile, some of our Hindu friends in Bangladesh told me they are not able to flee to India because Modi is not allowing Visas for these Hindu folks to escape, and worse, India is tightening the borders to not allow the Hindus to leave. It looks like India is not intervening properly. 

If the Hindus are going to be attacked violently in Bangladesh, and stabbed, maimed, raped, burned alive or killed etc., then India should get in there and protect them. If not, get in there and protect them temporarily while they evacuate them. Doing nothing but clamoring at the UN is not a useful solution. We are going to fix this at the UN is probably the worst fake out false flag that could be suggested at this point. 

Meanwhile, at least some people in India are protesting to have this Chinmoy person liberated from jail. How it will all end is hard to predict, but history has shown, being weak when people are being attacked, encourages more attacks. Protesting is good, but not very effective with corrupt or violent criminal type people.

Yeah I know -- it is all karma etc. but it is also karma for the leaders who should do something, but who do not take appropriate action to save their fellow religion members. A military protected evacuation scheme seems to me to be the easiest and safest path forward. And that should have been done to protect Hindus in other examples, it would have saved a lot of lives. India seems to wait for some divine intervention or the UN to fix all this, and that never happens actually. 

But hey, being a Hindu has its problematic side, and flip-flopping, acquiescing to bad actors, indecision and inaction in a crisis is one of those issues. It seems to come with the package. Oh yeah, and the ISKCON GBC behaves about the same way. 

That being said, I wish for the best for ISKCON and the Hindus over there, they are in a rough situation and it looks like it is deteriorating. As for ISKCON over there, they have also got some heavy karma to pay for promoting their homosexual and pedophile guru lineage in Lord Chaitanya's land, and this crisis might be one of the methods being used as payment. 

Overall, ISKCON seems to be having one crisis after the next lately, and that might be a sign Krishna is getting fed up with their whole bogus show bottle guru operation. And yeah, Srila Prabhupada says -- when a guru has an affair with a follower -- it is the same as a father having sex with his daughter, that would make a whole bunch of them -- like Giriraja -- also child molesters de facto. 

It is rampant in that society and that is why we believe that society is going to have more problems going forward, Krishna will start to clamp down on the whole mess, and it looks like, He is. 

The good news is that PADA is gaining more contacts and associates in various places, and Krishna is arranging a sort of awakening and awareness of all this, and it is progress, albeit slow but steady. There is only one path to Krishna, we have to worship the pure devotee, whereas worshiping the GBC's molester messiah's project will take us to molester loka and not Krishna loka. That is just the truth of the matter. 

ys pd

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PADA: First of all, the people of India and -- or Bangladesh should know that making ISKCON's GBC approved leaders into their official and -- or un-official "Hindu" representatives is a huge mistake. Why? Because ISKCON's GBC and -- or its GBC leaders and -- or its gurus and -- or those approved by the GBC as leaders -- has enabled decades long mass child mistreatment on "an industrial scale." 

And ISKCON Mayapur is perhaps one of the places that has been the worst example. And ISKCON has had numerous predators and exploiters posing as its leaders, teachers and "sum total of the demigods gurus"; and it has harbored predators and their enablers for decades. In other words, before ISKCON leaders can clean up problems for the Hindus, ISKCON needs to clean up its own problems first. 

And the Hindus who are using these ISKCON leaders as their direct or de facto spokesmen are making a huge error. The Hindus should be demanding the leaders of the ISKCON child mistreatment process be removed to clean up ISKCON first and foremost. Instead, the Hindus are largely promoting and worshiping the ISKCON leaders and gurus of this odious child mistreatment process. 

In sum, the Hindus need to select better leaders, gurus and representatives for their cause. They are not using good discrimination by having these ISKCON GBC leaders act as their representatives, and it is hurting their own cause. And Srila Prabhupada told us -- that is one big reason Bangladesh is suffering so badly, the people there selected bogus gurus and avatars as their worshiped personalities, and that is giving the whole place "bad karma." 

And the bad karma will not end as long as they keep selecting bogus people as their leaders, representatives and gurus. ys pd

1 comment:

  1. SR It is 'heart warming' to see that ISKCON News has published a number of posts showing solidarity for Chinmoy Krishna das.
    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14MKaHPoFq/
    Chinmoy Krishna das is a devotee from Bangladesh who was recently arrested. Given the current political climate in Bangladesh, it is likely that he is not faring particularly well at present.
    He is also accused of extreme and violent sexual abuse of several children. I spoke to a devotee in India who is familiar with his case and the allegations are truly horrific!
    I am not looking to get into the ethical discussion of the propriety of ISKCON News officially showing support for a violent and prolific child abuser.
    Rather I wish to highlight the fact that we have not seen a comparable show of support from ISKCON News for his victims.
    When was the last time that ISKCON News wrote a comparable article in solidarity of the hundreds of children that have and continue to be abused in ISKCON?

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