Mahesh Raja
To:William Benedict
Sun, Dec 22 at 3:43 AM
GURU KRIPA ENDORSES RITVIK IDEA
Bhakta das Prabhu
Hare Krsna!
Although both you and Rupanuga, oppose Ritvik System July 9th 1977 ordered by Srila Prabhupada, here below in memories of Srila Prabhupada You tube video you will find that Guru Kripa Das Prabhu speaking VERY favourably ACCEPTING the Ritvik System:
Memories of Srila Prabhupada by Guru Kripa Dasa- Part 71
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfLWZbWbhY
Hare Krsna!
ys mahesh
PADA: Thanks Mahesh Raja prabhu.
Hare Krsna!
ys mahesh
PADA: Thanks Mahesh Raja prabhu.
Yeah Gurukripa is correct, it could have been 11 or 50 named, because it was "whoever is nearest." Not "whoever is a resident of Krishna loka."
Gurukripa is even more correct, mistakenly saying that Srila Prabhupada wants conditioned souls to be worshiped as good as God -- and absorb sins like Jesus as diksha gurus -- makes him appear as defective. This is blaming Srila Prabhupada for our deviations, and it makes him, and Krishna, and indeed the whole of ISKCON and the entire Krishna religion look severely misguided.
Conditioned souls are God's successor gurus?
Almost no one else accepts that, at least almost cent percent ordinary people reject that idea. Yeah good question, why has it taken so long for people like Gurukripa to speak up? This video is six years old, so it has been around for awhile, but hardly no one ever noticed because he does not emphasize this point.
How many thousands and thousands of victims had to suffer, including many children, while most people just remained silent and did not do anything meaningful to challenge the cabal.
Meanwhile, when I told Jayatirtha and Jayapataka that we are not qualified to absorb sins, they both laughed at me. OK how did that work out for them?
Conditioned souls cannot be worshiped as pure, it never ends well, and there are thousands of examples of that from past and present India history. Moreover Srila Prabhupada told us that if we make conditioned soul gurus, it will produce malefic effect. And he said that over and over.
Telling conditioned souls to absorb sins will cause them to degrade, and they have, and they are, and they will continue to fall down, get sick, die prematurely, and degrade. Gurukripa is right, the proof they are not, were not, could not have been -- gurus is -- they all fell down. Right on!
Oh oh! A devotee who visits and ISKCON temple says that when he complained to some of the seniors there that he thinks various Hindus who are taking up managing roles are also eating meat, he was told "we only make sure the poojaris are veg, not others." Yup. It just gets worse.
This is the result of their "living gurus"! I think it is only a question of time and the poojaris will also be non-veg. It is deteriorating. And although we thank Gurukripa for finally speaking up, it is way too little and way too late to help many victims, and to turn around the mess in ISKCON in any short order period of time. This is going to be a long and hard haul.
NARAYAN MAHARAJA
PADA: Satsvarupa was writing about how nice his daily enemas (stool passing) are, and on the next page, the colors of the saris of the gopis. BV Puri held SDG's book over his head and he was very upset. And BV Puri was complaining -- this is the result of the preaching of Narayan Maharaja! Now people are writing about their stool passing -- and the gopis -- all in the same book! This is way worse than anything the sahajiyas are doing, even the sahajiyas are not this disgusting. Rasika can only be presented to people who are qualified to receive it, and not to frauds.
PADA: Satsvarupa was writing about how nice his daily enemas (stool passing) are, and on the next page, the colors of the saris of the gopis. BV Puri held SDG's book over his head and he was very upset. And BV Puri was complaining -- this is the result of the preaching of Narayan Maharaja! Now people are writing about their stool passing -- and the gopis -- all in the same book! This is way worse than anything the sahajiyas are doing, even the sahajiyas are not this disgusting. Rasika can only be presented to people who are qualified to receive it, and not to frauds.
NM was giving rasika classes to these folks, and that means, he never understood the process. Of course NM also helped SDG write The Guru Reform Notebook, which is a guidebook for what to do when the gurus they are promoting are actually debauchees. Worshiped as good as God, and debauchees, and -- maid servants of the gopis no less. They do not know what is rasika and what is deviation. ys pd
LD: Hardly any views in 6 years. Means what? No one cares what Gurukripa has to say ... about anything. Has the reputation of being a slime ball who hangs with the GBC people all the time. And then we have his Bangkok reputation problem.
ReplyDeleteNot hanging with any of us. He needs to change association if he wants to enjoy any credits. It is good !!! that he said something favorable. But buried ... because ??? most people associate him with the GBC gurus ... he has been rubbing elbows with in India.
He should make a ... once and for all ... clear video where he says ... the ritvik idea is the right idea and the GBC idea is the bogus idea ... and we should all become supporters of ritvik inside and outside ISKCON. Any other idea is deviation.
He was simply making money with his T-shirts business ... when thousands of kids were getting beaten and raped ... as he sat on the sideline. Or he sat with the leaders. He has some needed apology and repentance in his present karma.