What If My ISKCON Guru Falls Down? (VIDEO) etc. 11 28 24

PADA: My guru is a member of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, But that is fine because he is a "living" member of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru process. And some of the gurus in our line of gurus are also taking intoxicants, watching porno, and having affairs with half dozen disciples. And some of them are homosexuals and some are pedophiles. Where do I sign up? And the good news is, my guru was 2/3 show of hands voted in by the above mentioned.   

These ladies keep saying we have to study if our guru is bona fide. You mean the five years old ISKCON children -- most of whom got a bad guru -- and many were starved, beaten, molested and exploited in various ways  -- did not study the shastra properly? They are responsible for having a bad guru? What kind of foolishness is that? 

No, the ISKCON adults and leaders were and still are supposed to provide the children with a proper guru, and they failed to do that. These ladies are still not doing that, they are still saying everyone (like children) have to be responsible for finding the right guru. 

This is rascaldom. They are STILL avoiding taking responsibility for the welfare of the vulnerable, especially the children citizens. You adults and seniors should decide who is the right guru for children, and not blame them that you are making wrong choices. 

And we should not be telling the public that a guru parampara of illicit sex, intoxicants, porno swamis etc. is -- a guru parampara they have to accept to worship -- to get to God, or they have to worship the fools voted into that parampara. There is illicit sex with men, women and children in the parampara? What kind of eternal and pure parampara is that? 

The good news is, more people are rejecting this false parampara. 

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RUSSIA IS RUNNING OUT OF MEN

Promoting a return to "traditional values" in Russia does not align with the actual choices of its society. Russia is experiencing the lowest number of marriages in eighteen years. In September this year, this number was 16 percent lower than during the same period of the previous year.

PADA: Well yeah, because Russia lost a million -- or more -- men who fled the country, and they are losing 1,000 a day full time all the time in their endless wars, never mind all the wounded and disabled men they are creating. The soldier's graveyards are filling up with bodies fast -- according to satellite photos. And there are photos of trenches full of bodies that are no longer living.

There are also factories in Russia where all the workers are mostly women, they have no men available. A lady made a video from there saying "they are making two nations full of fatherless families and crying widows. And they call that winning." 

Yep, we need to get rid of all the men to make a proper family values program! It is amazing that the proposed goal of making more family and family values, is going to complete opposite direction. Another sign of Kali Yuga. 

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"By sex life one becomes conditioned." 

They cannot understand. Hare Kṛṣṇa... (japa) This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyāsīs. And those sannyāsīs who have fallen, you get them married, live like a ... No more this showbottle, cheating. It is very ludicrous. Even there is a promise that "We shall not fall down again," that is also not believable. What is the use?

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Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. What he will do, more payment? (?) Then he will kill. This sex life in this material world is so strong, even in the heavenly planets. Big, big ṛṣis. Sex life with animals also there is... Sex life is so strong. Man cohabiting with animal. It makes blind. Vyāsadeva made one of her (his) students pregnant, what to speak of ourselves. Vyāsadeva was born, Satyavatī. 

She was low class. Although she was born by a king, but her mother was a low-class fisherwoman. And the fisherman raised her as daughter. And Parāśara Muni became attracted. And Vyāsadeva was born. Sex affairs, just see, in the highest circle. Bṛhaspati, the spiritual master of the devatās, he became so much mad for his brother's wife who was pregnant, and forcibly they had sex. Just see. These are examples. 

Brahmā became attracted with his daughter. Lord Śiva became attracted with the beauty of Mohinī-mūrti, even in the presence of his wife. So this sex life can be controlled only by becoming Kṛṣṇa conscious. Otherwise there is no... The Bhāgavata has discussed all this because in this material world there is no escape unless we become Kṛṣṇa conscious, from the sex impulse. It is not possible. Yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa... 

When one is fully Kṛṣṇa conscious, then he'll reject all this nonsense: "What is this?" Bhavati mukha-vikāraḥ suṣṭhu. He'll spite (spit): "Eh! Get out. Is that enjoyment?" It is possible for a Kṛṣṇa conscious... No other can do it. And that is the bondage. He'll have to work hard for maintaining sex issues. And so long you are bound up by the karmas, you have to accept another body and then continue. 

Who knows how we are bound up and conditioned? If you talk in the modern society they will laugh: "What nonsense this man is... 'By sex life one becomes conditioned.' " They cannot understand. Hare Kṛṣṇa... (japa) This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyāsīs. And those sannyāsīs who have fallen, you get them married, live like a... No more this showbottle, cheating. 

It is very ludicrous. Even there is a promise that "We shall not fall down again," that is also not believable. What is the use? Better go and speak philosophy in your gṛhastha dress, not this dress, but you have nice coat, pants, gentleman. Who says no? I never said. Rather I shall be glad to see that up-to-date gentlemen with tilaka and śikhā are speaking. 

That is very prestigious everywhere. Why this false dress? What is the wrong to become gṛhastha? I was gṛhastha, pākā caliber gṛhastha. My Guru Mahārāja was brahmacārī, This is ever... Just see his character. Caitanya Mahāprabhu was gṛhastha, but when He took sannyāsa: "Oh, I am now..." For sober person. That is wanted. That is ideal. He married twice. 

Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura married twice. Caitanya Mahāprabhu married twice. What is the wrong there? One has to become pure devotee, that's all. Other things, of course, are circumstantially favorable, either a gṛhastha, brahmacārī or vānaprastha or sannyāsa. Kibā vipra kibā śūdra nyāsī kene naya, yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā sei 'guru' haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]. You must know the science of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That makes you guru, not this dress.
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January 7, 1977, Bombay