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PADA: Well there you have it. All the people who said PADA is a crazy man when we came out with the poison issue, are now the people looking a little crazy. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PEAS IN A PADA 

HINDU-BINDU

PADA: Yeah my friend, who still part time serves at ISKCON, says he is good friends with many of the India congregration people. He says at least 50% -- or more -- still eat meat. And they regularly go to meat restaurants, and some of them own and run meat restaurants, and some of them manage places like Subway sandwich stores etc. In fact, he says one of the higher up managers in the ISKCON temple "management beard" team there -- is in fact -- an owner of a Subway sandwich franchise store. 

Meanwhile, he says many of the congregation people are not clear if Krishna is a demigod, or not, or if some of the India swamis are incarnations of Krishna, because there is no real emphasis on training people correctly. And he says if it was not for a few hired Bengalis from Jayapataka's zone at his temple, there would be no morning program, at all. And these hired Bengalis are also not really dedicated to Srila Prabhupada's teachings, because they can leave and go work at a meat restaurant when they get their green cards. 

As some already have done. So he says, people seem to have no clue that ISKCON is now an official compromised Hindu congregation hall business, which has little -- if any -- connection to Srila Prabhupada's original mission. And the more that they keep placing more and more Hindus on the ISKCON managerial boards, as they are doing just about everywhere, the more watered down it gets -- every day. 

And that is why Srila Prabhupada told us, if the Hindus take over my mission, it will become a business. A business has no interest in making itself into a religion, it does not make money the same way. Guru Prasad swami was crying many years ago that he has to "manage everything myself," he has no good senior managers -- well yeah he took the seniors out -- and thus he has to manage everything himself, and so they expanded his zone and gave him more stuff to manage, when he already says he can barely manage what he already has. OK, it is a business. They will never make any of us the managers, because we want it to be a religion and not a business. ys pd

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LOKANATH HAS ADMITTED

Incredibly, Lokanath has admitted his wrongdoing in writing

https://lokanath.net/lokanath-swami-child-molestation-admission-letter-2010/ 

And here is the whole story, including the actual words of Lokanath’s victim, Satya, who has grown up living with the shame of what Lokanath did to her: 

https://groups.google.com/g/istagosthi/c/WQGn4Vr4bg0 

Yet, when after his own admission has been shared on public media, Lokanath demands a quarter of a million dollars for his lost business. Huh? What “businesses” do sannyasis have? Oh, right! It’s not business, it’s “reputation.” I get it! 

In ISKCON, sannyasa is seen as quite a different species of animal from the traditional understanding defined by Vedic culture. Left to right (l) “Hmmm, how to collect $270,000? (center) When the cover of a book is cut-and-paste, how can anyone with a teaspoon of sense believe the contents? (r) Hi$ Holine$$ Lokanath $wami cutting the guru profile.In ISKCON, the householders obey the rules, they live austerely and humbly, and contribute their hard-earned money to sannyasis, so that their “gurus” can live like kings and mercifully spend the free money they get on their luxurious lifestyles. 

Hmmm... And now it looks like, Old Lokanath needs a quarter of a million bucks because the truth of his own admission hurts so badly that the money has stopped coming in. So … he is suing a mom whose real interest is in protecting her children from predators dressed as renunciants.

Go figure — this sort of twisted, backward scenario can only happen in Kali Yuga, and ISKCON has had its fill of sexy swamis and child rapists that are more than happy to separate you from your money while the GBC sits on its collective thumbs. 

Hare Krishna. Your A.I.S.F. Team

After publicly sharing documents of Lokanath's child molestation case, Lokanath "Swami" sued myself and another child protection advocate Damodara Dasa in November 2022 for defamation. Defamation laws in India are different than other countries like the United States where truth is the best defense. “Indian criminal defamation law appears, in both letter and spirit, to have become only more regressive since it was first enacted in 1860. Truth is not an absolute defense.” 

“India and other major democracies have taken two different approaches in the area of defamation law. In the U.K. and U.S., defamation law has been transformed.

”https://www.codastory.com/.../rahul-gandhi-criminal.../

In early 2024, a judge in the High Court of Delhi ordered Lokanath to withdraw his lawsuit, so he did. Lokanath has now filed another defamation lawsuit against us, asking us to pay 2.25 Crores (about US$270,000).In this lawsuit, Lokanath is disturbed that "several such people in and from Delhi... have personally approached the Plaintiff [Lokanath] discussing the defamatory contents..." and that we are "impugning his character and discussing the same with other people associated

With ISKCON and Hare Krishna movement in Delhi thereby causing huge damage to the reputation of the Plaintiff in Delhi."What Damodara and I (and others) have done is publicly asked ISKCON leaders to follow their own rules with Lokanath and give his child molestation case to their ISKCON Child Protection Office. Or remove him from leadership, per the ISKCON GBC's 2018 Resolution that child abusers can not hold positions of leadership in ISKCON. 

We also publicly shared this information for people who were taking spiritual guidance from Lokanath, or who were considering taking spiritual guidance from him, as this information might inform their decision. I have heard many stories of Lokanath's disciples wishing they had known he was a child molester before they took initiation from him, as it would have impacted their decision. Please help us in this cause for child protection and free speech by donating and sharing.

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A Chronological Cornucopia of Confusion

IRM

Back To Prabhupada

When a hoax is perpetrated via a series of fabrications, invented as one goes along, one fallout will be that even those who are supposed to be upholding the hoax will not be sure exactly what they are supposed to be doing, and why. The Great Guru Hoax in ISKCON exemplifies this phenomenon, with the guru hoaxers descending into confusion, contradiction and outright absurdity, the further the hoax continues. 

We detail below, how from the very beginning right up until the present day, the guru hoaxers have become so afflicted with confusion and madness due to the continuation of this offensive guru circus, that they have difficulty distinguishing whether they are coming or going, and indeed whether or not they are even gurus!

We weren't sure - 1977

"Srila Prabhupada's disappearance left us struggling to understand exactly how to continue the initiation process. […] As usual, I appeared to vacillate between the strong opinions of others."

Satsvarupa Das Goswami, self-authorised guru, November 17 - 29 1977 GN Press, 1997

We are told repeatedly that Srila Prabhupada had 'clearly' instructed his disciples to become successor gurus. Yet we see here the founder of the Guru Hoax, Satsvarupa Das, admitting that they had no idea what they should be doing, and instead he simply flip-flopped depending on what others were saying.

We did the greatest disservice - 1980

"Actually Prabhupada never appointed any gurus. He appointed eleven ritviks. He never appointed them gurus. Myself and the other GBC have done the greatest disservice to this movement the last three years because we interpreted the appointment of ritviks as the appointment of gurus."

(Tamala Krishna Goswami, self-authorised guru, Pyramid House confession, Topanga Canyon, December 3rd, 1980)

Three years later, another architect of the Guru Hoax, Tamal Krishna Goswami, admits that actually they had only ever been appointed ritviks, and taking this appointment of ritviks as the appointment of gurus, was the "greatest disservice to this movement". Yet this appointment of gurus remains in place to this date, since these ritviks, such as Tamala Krishna Goswami himself, never relinquished their appointed guru posts (unless having been caught in gross illicit activity). 

Rather, these self-admitted bogus gurus stayed in their falsely appointed posts to help authorise all the new ISKCON gurus which followed subsequently, and three of them are still at large today. Therefore, the "greatest disservice to this movement" also remains in place to this day in ISKCON.

Guru falldown perplexity

"And when it comes to the subject of gurus, who trusts the spiritual guidance of the GBC? […] To boost your confidence: On one hand the GBC encourages you to be initiated by a bona fide, authorized ISKCON guru and worship him like God. On the other, it has an elaborate system of laws to invoke from time to time when your ISKCON-authorized guru falls down. One might perhaps be forgiven for thinking that for all the laws and resolutions the role of guru is still a perplexity even for the GBC."

(HH Jayadvaita Swami, GBC voted-in guru, Where the Ritvik People Are Right, 1996)

As the unauthorised gurus began to rapidly fall down, the GBC invented a bunch of "laws" detailing how gurus can fall, how they can be "rectified", how we can still worship them in a limited way whilst they are fallen, how we can worship them in an unlimited way later on following their "rectification", and so on.

Stopping initiation by initiating even more - 1999

"After Harikesa fell down in 1998, in 1999 I proposed that it's obvious that we are going in the wrong direction. Now, when you go wrong, when you know you're going in the wrong direction, what do you do? You stop to find the right way. So for the time-being, let's stop giving initiation and find out what is actually the problem and what is the solution to this problem, whether we can find a solution and until then, let us stop."

(Bhakti Caru Swami, GBC voted-in guru, recording, July 20th, 2003, Toronto)

Following another big guru falldown, Bhakti Charu Swami ("BCS") admits this meant they should stop initiating right away, as they were "going in the wrong direction". To this end he decided to lead the way by setting the example, by immediately conducting the biggest initiation ceremony seen in ISKCON in fifteen years!:

Largest Initiation since days of Bhagavan before international assembly

By Vipramukhya Swami

(Bhaktivedanta Manor, UK) - August 14, 1999:

Bhakti Charu Swami, Radhanath Swami and Bhakti Vikasa Swami initiated 32 devotees this morning at Bhaktivedanta Manor,

England, the day before the London Rathayatra. It was the largest initiation to take place at Bhaktivedanta Manor [...]"

(Chakra website)

And yet BCS has the cheek to pontificate regarding "truth and honesty":

"A vaisnava is honest and truthful. Therefore he is fearless."

(BCS Letter, April 3rd, 2007)

The definition of "acharya", or spiritual master, is "one who teaches by example". Since BCS's "example" has shown to be diametrically opposed to what he "teaches", we can safely assume that he is not qualified in any way to act as an "acharya". And by his own definition of honesty and truthfulness, he does not even qualify as a Vaisnava either, having confessed that the current initiation system in ISKCON is completely wrong and should stop altogether; and yet he continues initiating in large numbers to this current day, never having stopped to "find the right way", preferring instead to "continue going in the wrong direction".

Am I saying I am a guru? - 2005

Sankarshan Das, a GBC-voted-in guru, gets confused over whether he is claiming he is a guru or not:

"I just visited your site for the first time. I can't believe it! The way you promote yourself as a bonafide guru, even selling your own picture."

(E-mail from John Garcia to Sankarshan Das Adhikari, 14/10/2005)

In reply, Sankarshan Das states:

"So far as I know I am not advertising that I am a guru. Kindly point out to me where I am advertising that I am a guru and I shall see about changing it."

(E-mail from Sankarshan Das Adhikari to John Garcia, 15/10/2005)

However, the above statement is made in relation to his website on which he says:

""Thought for the Day" is brought to you by Sankarshan Das Adhikari, author of The Ultimate Self Realization Course (TM) and an authorized spiritual master in the Brahma - Madhva - Gaudiya sampradaya, the world's oldest lineage of gurus."

(Sankarshan Das Adhikari website, emphasis added - archived)

In addition, our confused "sum total of the demigods" ISKCON guru also states:

"Srila Prabhupada personally told me that I could advertise myself as a spiritual master, and you are telling me that I should not. Should I follow you or should I follow Srila Prabhupada?"

(E-mail from Sankarshan Das Adhikari to John Garcia, 25/10/2005)

So if Srila Prabhupada had actually told Sankarshan Das Adhikari to advertise himself as a spiritual master, why did he initially claim he did not follow this supposed advice and state that "I am not advertising that I am guru"?

Should we be called gurus? - 2006

"[…] 'Spiritual masters', I hate to use the word, I don't like it so much I would rather prefer sannyasis, senior vaisnavas, GBCs; when they are preaching in public they should be advertised, but such advertisement is necessary but not on the basis of their being gurus"

(Sivarama Swami [SRS], "GBC resolutions on the worship of guru", podcast July 21st, 2006)

Faith in the ISKCON guru system has now reached such a low, that an ISKCON guru himself actually hates to use the word "guru" to refer to himself, and prefers that they are called anything but this! And yet another ISKCON leader says that "guru" is not even a position in ISKCON, though, in contradiction with SRS, it is alright to at least "advertise" it as such:

"The event, staged by the students, was advertised as: 'Interview with a Guru' which made me smile considering my previous blog on the use of the word in ISKCON. However, this was advertising and not social designation."

(Kripamoya Das, The Vaishnava Voice, October 12th, 2007)

So confused are they about their crumbling guru system, they cannot even agree what status, if at all, should be given to the "guru" title!

Grappling with being a guru - 2007

"I have grappled with being a diksa guru […] I've put out a public moratorium on carrying out further diksa initiations. I'm stopping at about 100 disciples. I'm not spiritually advanced enough to have more."

(HH Mukunda Goswami, "Vyasa Puja" offering to HH Jayapataka Swami, 2007)

Thus, having been artificially elevated by the GBC to the position of a diksa guru (initiating spiritual master) who is worshipped as Srila Prabhupada's successor, HH Mukunda Goswami now tells us that imitating Srila Prabhupada's position is something he has been "grappling" with, and further that he would cease to function as a spiritual master should his disciple headcount exceed 100.

We are unaware of any teaching from Srila Prabhupada which states that a bona fide spiritual master "grapples" with being a spiritual master. Indeed, the very definition of a bona fide spiritual master is that he is a completely self-realised soul.

Gurus are actually ritviks! - 2007

"If for some unfortunate reason gurus leave ISKCON, at least the institutional empowerment doesn't go with them, it stays here, and devotees should be wise enough and selective enough in that case to stay in Srila Prabhupada's line, and Srila Prabhupada's direct service is going on."

(Sivarama Swami (SRS) Initiation Lecture, Bhaktivedanta Manor, January 7th, 2007, emphasis added)

Here an ISKCON guru tries to justify why ISKCON devotees should remain in ISKCON, even if their guru hoaxers fall down by claiming that the "institutional empowerment" of the initiation conferred upon disciples does not leave with the bogus gurus when they themselves leave ISKCON. But this would mean that the real empowerment for the initiation obviously cannot come from the bogus gurus themselves, but from some other source, since nothing changes even if your "guru" leaves - your initiation stays intact. 

However, this can only happen if the "initiator" is simply a functionary for the initiation ceremony, and not a bona fide diksa guru himself - and such a functionary, who simply imparts an initiation without affecting the status of the initiation even if he himself later leaves ISKCON, is called a "RITVIK". Hence, SRS is here conceding the ritvik argument in order to try and keep hapless disciples, whose "gurus" may deviate in the future, to stay in ISKCON.

SRS also claims that one can give "direct service" to Srila Prabhupada, even if there is no longer any connection to the "guru" who "initiated" you. This again means that actually Srila Prabhupada must be one's diksa Guru, since we do not require an intermediary guru through which to DIRECTLY serve Srila Prabhupada. The ability to render DIRECT service to a Guru, even though one is not connected to the person who "initiated" one, can only happen if the "initiator" in question was a "RITVIK" who initiated on behalf of the Guru to whom we are actually performing the DIRECT service.

Conclusion

So from start to finish, the gurus themselves admit that:

a) They struggled to know what should be done.

b) What they did was the greatest disservice to the movement, a disservice which continues to this present day.

c) A whole series of seemingly perplexing laws are needed to "manage" gurus.

d) They should have stopped initiating as they were going in the wrong direction.

e) They are not sure if they are calling themselves gurus, or better still, don't call us gurus at all!

f) They are grappling with being gurus, and thus have decided to stop when they reach a certain number of disciples.

g) We can understand that when the guru falls down, this does not matter since he is effectively no more than a ritvik!

Such self-confessed uncertainty by ISKCON's Governing Body is only to be expected when one is trying to prop up a guru hoax, rather than institute the ritvik system that was actually prescribed by Srila Prabhupada for ISKCON. Such madness and confusion can only result when one fabricates an illegal guru system in direct disobedience to the order of Srila Prabhupada; such confusion could certainly not arise if one was actually following the perfect orders of Srila Prabhupada, to keep him as the only diksa Guru for ISKCON.