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And No One Should Protest?

PADA: Actually, this is good news. They are trying to complain that we are wrong to condemn their guru process in public. That means, they are very aware that our complaints are making it into the public arena. And the chorus of public complaints is getting louder, and the complaints will not stop until these issues are fixed.

Srila Prabhupada says that the current material society is fallen. Imagine if we try to say a number of these conditioned and contaminated people are ... gurus? Then imagine we are being told not to criticize their bogus guru society in public?  

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Hari Parsada Das

~ The Public Exposé of the Guru's Faults ~​

[PADA: Here we go. People in ISKCON are now being trained that Krishna's guru successors are faulty, defective, conditioned souls. So we should NOT expose that our guru is a faulty conditioned soul -- so we can cheat other people that he is a self realized (not faulty) soul? 

We buy a defective car, we find out it might catch on fire, but we won't warn anyone else that this model of car is unroadworthy? That places many other people into danger then.

In ISKCON ALL of their gurus are either (A) Deviants, (B) Founder fathers of the deviant guru sampradaya -- and / or cover ups for the other deviant gurus or, (C) Those voted into the deviant's guru sampradaya. But don't warn the public! Also notice that offering bhoga to deviants, intoxicated fools, sexual predators and even pedophiles is now called "Hari Prasad" in ISKCON. Ummm, nope.]

If we analyze all the statements that any individual has made in the duration of their entire lives, we are sure to come across various statements that may be faulty from the point of view of śāstra. It is a fact that in the material world, no individual except Bhagavān is free from the tendency to commit mistakes. Śrīla Baladeva Vidyābhūṣana has correctly noted this fact in his treatise named Siddhānta-darpaṇam:​

​jīva-vākyeṣu labhyante​ / jīva-dharmā bhramādayaḥ / vede tu naiva te santi​

sarvajña-vacanoccaye​ 

Translation: In the statements made by all living entities, we find inherent faults viz. illusion etc. Such faults are not present in the Vedas, since they are the words of the omniscient Supreme Lord. — Siddhānta-darpaṇam (1.23)​

[PADA: GBC gurus are falling down into illicit sex with men, women and children, drinking Vodka, offering LSD to the shalagram, having oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham, gambling in Reno etc. -- and all of this deviation is happening "by mistake"? But the ordinary rank and file devotees who worship Srila Prabhupada in various other non-ISKCON programs are not falling into these "mistakes." How is the guru lower than the rank and file layman.] 

​Even if someone claims that their guru is very expert, still it is impossible for any expert jīva to avoid mistakes in the framework of the material world.​ This is not necessarily the fault of the jīva. The very framework of the material world in which the jīvas are operating is prone to generating unlimited faults. Thus, even the most expert gurus end up making mistakes and even the most expert book editors end up admitting their erratum / corrigenda. Śrīla Baladeva Vidyābhūṣaṇa remarks:​

​[PADA: Why would we try to establish that Krishna's gurus are part of the illusory material world. The guru is supposed to be a resident of Krishna loka, not the material world. This is clearly an attempt to discredit the gurus, the Vedas, and what it means to be a resident of Krishna loka.]

puruṣasya vyāvahārikasya vyutpannasyāpi bhramādi-doṣa-grastatvāt​

Translation: Even a person very expert in all dealings is affected by defects viz. illusion etc. — Commentary to Tattva-sandarbha (Anuccheda 9).​

Knowing this well, the previous authorities have said that it is the duty of the disciple to never speak about the faults of their gurus by naming and shaming them in public (especially in regards to philosophical faults). A common Sanskrit term for a disciple is — "chātraḥ". This term is explained by the grammarians as follows:​

​guru-doṣācchādanaṁ chatraṁ , tac-chīlam asya​

​Translation: To cover up the faults of the guru is known as "chatra". One whose innate nature is to do so is known as a "chātra" (disciple).​

​[PADA: So why would we say that Krishna and Srila Prabhupada want ISKCON to worship defective beings, if not illicit sex deviants, as gurus? Should we not cover up for them -- if in fact they wanted this deviation? Should we not say, they never ordered deviants to be worshiped as gurus -- to cover up that fault -- assuming they made that fault? 

Of course there is no evidence that Krishna and Srila Prabhupada wanted us to worship deviants as our acharyas. But even if we assume they did, should we not protect them from being linked to that odious situation? Making false gurus is a mistake, but we should not take the blame, we should blame Krishna? "Krishna wanted me to make false gurus." Really? And that is what the public is being told.]

​It is also the instruction of Śrī Rāmānujācārya to never speak publicly about the flaws of any vaiṣṇava (what to speak of the flaws of one's guru-janas). He says in the Prapannāmṛtam:​

vaiṣṇavānāṁ ca janmāni​ / nidrālasyāni yāni ca / dṛṣṭvā tāny aprakāśyāni​

janebhyo na vadet kvacit​

Translation: Birth in a low-class family, oversleeping, laziness, and whatever other faults present in vaiṣṇavas should never be revealed to a second person. One should especially never disclose such things publicly — (Prapannāmṛtam, 65.50)​

​[PADA: OK except the guru is not supposed to be a regular neophyte Vaishnava, who is subject to continued illusion and faulty behaviors. A conditioned Vaishnava may fall into all sorts of deviations, we should almost expect that. However, the guru is supposed to be above the platform of deviations. And Srila Prabhupada often spoke publicly about bogus gurus, because that is the duty of a Vaishnava, to save people from false gurus, not to cover up their deviations.] 

​Śrī Narottama Dāsa Ṭhākura has said that the guru is a bandhu (friend) of even the adhamas (fallen ones). If we truly believe that the guru-janas are our well-wishing friends, we too should exhibit our friendship towards them by never speaking of their faults by naming them in public. To engage in public naming and fault-finding of one's guru-janas on the pretext of rendering service to the vaiṣṇavas is nothing but a type of concealed envy of one's own confidential friend. In his commentary to Hari-bhakti-vilāsa, Śrī Sanātana Gosvāmī specifies this:​

​nāsūyeta mā doṣa-dṛṣṭiṁ kuryāt​

Translation: One should never envy the guru i.e. one should never see faults in him. — Dig-darśinī Commentary to Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (4.347)​

[PADA: OK so the ISKCON gurus are engaged in all sorts of deviations, but we should not see them as faults? We should see their deviations as pure?]​

​The famous intellectual genius named Paṇḍitarāja Jagannātha has also made the following statement in this regard:​

guru-dveṣa-dūṣita-matīnāṁ puruṣāyuṣeṇāpi na śakyante gaṇayituṁ pramādāḥ​

Translation: The errors of those individuals whose minds are infected by envy of their own guru-janas cannot be counted even in the entire lifetime of a human being. (Manoramā-kuca-mardinī).​

[PADA: Wow, so when various GBC gurus are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, and they have a whole bogus GBC program to back up that they are gurus, no one should complain. We should worship an illicit sex with men, women and children deviated guru parampara process with no resistance.]​

​If we flip the pages of history, we do not see a vaiṣṇava ācārya who has written publicly about the faults of his own gurus by naming them. They might have opposed a philosophical stance taken by their guru-janas, but never by dragging the names of their guru-janas in it. The topmost vaiṣṇava is supposed to be — anya-nindādi-śūnya-hṛdam — "Free from the tendency to critique others" (Upadeśāmṛtam, 5).​

[PADA: How are the members of the GBC's deviant guru program either -- gurus, vaisnava acharyas, parampara members etc. in the first place.]​

​In the past, there have been various instances in which vaiṣṇava ācāryas had to proclaim points of view contrary to those of their guru-janas. In almost all such instances, they did so without directly naming their gurus in such discussions. On many occasions, Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura takes a point of view contrary to his previous ācāryas, but he never publicly names the ācārya that he is contradicting on a specific point. This is the vaiṣṇava way of dealing with philosophical differences with one's own guru-janas.​

​Public fault-finding and mob justice by name-checking one's gurus is the śūdra's way of dealing with philosophical flaws. On seeing such public naming and shaming of one's guru-janas, one's philosophical opponents derive extreme vicarious pleasure and shower heaps of false praises upon the newfound boldness of the immature disciple. Here is a newly composed sarcastic verse dedicated to such disciples who publicly name and shame their own guru-janas:​

​दोषान् वदन्ति स्वगुरोर्जना ये​ / लोकेभ्य उच्चैरहहातिधार्ष्ट्यात् ।​ ख्यातिं लभन्ते कुधियः प्रकाश्य / ​

स्वाम्बास्तनस्थान् तिलकालकान् ते ॥ [इन्द्रवज्रा]​

​[Meter: Indra-vajrā (same as Gurvaṣṭakam)]:​

doṣān vadanti sva-guror janā ye​ / lokebhya uccair ahahāti-dhārṣṭyāt​

khyātiṁ labhante kudhiyaḥ prakāśya ​/ svāmbā-stana-sthān tilakālakān te​

​Translation: Alas! Those ill-minded individuals who out of extreme audacity speak of their own guru's faults openly in front of others are the very same ones who attain popularity by revealing to others the secret moles and marks on the breasts of their own mothers. (Self-composed)​

​May the kind-hearted vaiṣṇavas excuse any transgression of etiquette in writing these words __/\ò__ 🙏

​— Article Composed by Hari Pārṣada Dāsa. 03-June-2022.

​PS: The article is speaking mainly about philosophical issues. It is not the intent of the author to address other issues (besides those pertaining to the core philosophy) in this article of limited words.

[PADA: OK so Jayadvaita swami says the ISKCON GBC's guru parampara contains illicit sex with men, women and maybe children, but we should not name any of the people engaged in these deviations, or supporting this alleged parampara? Why should we allow false gurus to masquerade as acharyas?]

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Srila Prabhupada says it is one of the ten offenses to consider gurus are ordinary conditioned souls. In 1980 the GBC made a position paper (Jayadvaita / Satsvarupa penned -- in consultation with BR Sridhara Maharaja) called "The Mahajanas Have Difficulties." Therein they tried to say it is common for pure devotees to fall into illusion. This paper was distributed by all the top leaders at the time. So when they say it is a philosophical issue, that is partly true, they changed the philosophy to suit their purpose. But it is not our philosophy that gurus are commonly falling into illusion. Just after that they said the Jayatirtha that is falling down is the maya Jayatirtha, and the real Jayatirtha is serving Krishna nicely, just like there is the Maya Sita and the real Sita. Ummm, Mother Sita has some connection to imitation of guru? So this was even worse than their mahajanas paper. So now they are making more documents with the same theme, that's all. ys pd

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Ahimsa Milk?

The next problem is that the GBC / Sridhara Maharaja / Narayan Maharaja program has people offering their milk to deviants posing as gurus. That contaminates the milk from the get go, from wherever source they get it from. Then, they wonder why there is a cancer epidemic, women and children abuse epidemic, empty temples epidemic, bad publicity epidemic etc. in their society. Srila Prabhupada says offering boga to conditioned souls makes it stay boga. It is not accepted. And my ex-witch lay friend says, offering food to evil beings is how we could contamintate it, and make others get sick, or die. The reason so many devotees are getting cancer and dying prematurely has nothing to do with their sources of milk. And the reason so many devotee's children were exploited etc. has nothing to do with the sources of milk. This is a distraction from the real source of their problems. First of all, all of our food has to be offered to the pure devotee, or it is not going to make us healthy spiritually or materially. ys pd

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THE EMBARASSMENT OF BEING AN ISKCON DEVOTEE

An Exploited Fool – USA: I joined Iskcon when Prabhupada was no longer present, as most of us did. The average life expectancy of a temple devotee is 3 years now, compared to many more when Prabhupada was guru. Even 3 years after Srila Prabhupada left over half his disciples still lived at the temples or associated often, despite the changes made by some men claiming to be his spiritual successors and uttama adhikaris.

During these 3 years as a temple devotee, on average, there are 3 stages the devotee goes through:

Stage 1 – The neophyte stage.

At this stage one is a newcomer to Krishna Consciousness. He is relieved from all sinful reactions as he or she starts chanting Hare Krishna, taking prasadam and attending morning programs. He or she is told who their guru is most likely to be and they accept them into their hearts. They have full faith in their spiritual master because all the rest of the devotees who have joined ahead of them and their godbrothers and sisters tell them what a great guru he is. They take first initiation.

Stage two – The second year (Middle stage)

By now they have heard rumors their guru is bogus many times. But they are told those who criticize are “envious demons” and such who have “fallen down” while the guru will never fall. He is too pure. There are those who try to explain what is wrong with the movement or certain gurus but they are driven out and rightfully so for their sinful blasphemy of the devotees. Second initiation is offered and accepted, since someone needs to worship the Deities.

Stage 3 – The Advanced devotee stage.

You go online and start to realize not all the devotees who left can be wrong? You learn all about so many other gurus who have fallen and start to lose faith in your own, especially when he is caught with a prostitute, underage homosexual activity, sex with other people’s wives, bramacaris, etc.

You start to dress the Deities up like Santa Claus because it doesn’t really matter anyway, it is what Krishna really wants, and you can tell that by now because you are so advanced, and who are the gurus, temple presidents and gbc to tell you otherwise? They are all in maya themselves, or so one might think. So finally one day when your guru kicks you in the butt for being two seconds late for an offering instead of helping you, when he yelled at you and could have made the offering on time, you decide to leave.

You want to tell the new devotee who just joined how hellish it is in Iskcon and how this should not be but you run for your life on the way out. They make sure of that. With subtle and gross threats of retaliation for speaking out. You have given all you had to your guru, who just took off in your donated car on a vacation to give his foot a rest after kicking you and he is using the last of your laxmi on hotels for his girlfriend and himself so where to go? After months of struggling you finally decide you must get a job because we have to keep the body and soul together somehow.

Then the embarrassment comes in. You go online and seek some solace in the association of like minded devotees but instead find many devotees have left Iskcon altogether and gone over to the Gaudiya Math? Others have found shelter with LION GURUS or are following ex guru-ex child molesters both within and without the movement or any number of other philosophies. It seems the people in charge are winning in their own minds for the time being.

You are afraid to tell anyone even online you believe in Iskcon because the Iskcon you believe in is the one by Srila Prabhupada, not the current day one where if a guru can hold on to even one disciple he is considered a success, because that one disciple can serve him for the rest of his life, and he can die a happy man, never having had to lift a finger to support himself for the past half a century. You are a laughed at person considered a fool and subjected to the scorn of most people throughout the Western world.

But we don’t worry. We know we are following Prabhupada and Prabhupada is pure and Krishna will take us back to home back to Godhead at the end of this lifetime. Srila Prabhupada said so. Stay in Iskcon, follow the 4 regulative principles, chant 16 rounds, and you will see Lord Krishna face to face at the end of this life. It is just unfortunate that the ones in charge think they are the ones who are staying in Iskcon while driving all the rest of us away. 

As Srila Prabhupada also said, “A GBC who misuses his position will end up as a shudra in his next birth.”.