Cooperate with? / HK Project UK / Falling gurus / Where is the Love? 02 22 26

PADA: GBC leader Goverdhan says -- all groups need to cooperate now for the future of Lord Chaitanya's movement. We are all brothers. Fine. Except then they ban all the Prabhupada promoting devotees from ISKCON. We need to "cooperate" with banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing -- ourselves? 

Are these people spraying too much fentanyl on their hash pipes again? 😂 ys pd

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THE HARE KRISHNA PROJECT

“Support Needed: New Bhagavad Gita School to open in Bangladesh”
PODCAST: Episode 206 – Saturday 21st February 2026

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We’re delighted to welcome Priya as our guest on this week’s podcast.
Born and raised in Bangladesh, she has been following the teachings of Srila Prabhupada for many years. An enthusiastic advocate for education, and teaching children about bhakti yoga, Priya is currently raising funds to open a new Bhagavad Gita School in her village.

In this Special Edition of The Hare Krishna Project Podcast, she talks with Narada Prabhu about:
- Why the school is being set up
- Why educating children about the Bhagavad Gita is so important
- How people can get involved

** Priya needs to raise just £225 ($300) to open the school with the first purchase of Bhagavad Gitas. If you can help please email info@harekrishnaproject.org **

This week’s podcast is not to be missed!

For more details about The Hare Krishna Project check out our website www.theharekrishnaproject.org.uk


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FALLING GURUS

PADA: The idea that Krishna's gurus and successors commonly fall down was established early on. In 1980 Satsvarupa, Jaggadish and Jayadvaita (in consultation with BR Sridhara Maharaja) wrote "The Mahajanas Have Difficulties," where they said it is common for the GBC gurus to fall down -- because WHY? -- the Mahajanas are often CONTAMINATED BY MAYA, just like us GBC gurus.


In 1988 Gaura Govinda Maharaja wrote another paper (there were many) for the GBC "how to understand that your guru might be an asura." But GGM gives no explanation why he is promoting asuras as his gurus in the first place? GGM even says -- after you get one of his asura gurus, you have to "cry to Krishna" to get a real guru. A person can sell bogus toxic medicine, which harms the patients, and then the patients have to pray to God to get fixed from the bad medicine? But who authorized GGM to sell bad medicine? And why does Krishna have to fix our selling bad medicine?


Jayadvaita says taking a GBC guru is like buying a used car, it might drive, it might start on fire. He also said the 5 years old children of ISKCON got a bad guru because "they did not study the shastra." I thought JAS was supposed to read the shastra and make sure the 5 years olds got a good guru? When did Srila Prabhupada says the 5 years olds are in charge of ISKCON's guru tattva?


I was invited to the 1990 Ritvik Debate. But I refused to go. Why? Because Jayadvaita said -- Puranjana will not be able to discuss the behavior, actions and qualifications of our GBC gurus. We cannot discuss the behavior of bona fide acharyas, and non-bona fide acharyas? Then how will we ever know who is an acharya? So I was going to submit a paper on the ACTUAL qualifications of an acharya (namely Srila Prabhupada), and was told I would be FORBIDDEN for even bringing up the topic. How can we know who is an acharya if we cannot mention what are his qualifications?


So yeah, the whole thing was tilted against us all along, and an honest debate was never conducted. Nor have they ever debated me in public even 1978, they wanted to meet in private. Nor will they ever debate me in public most likely. If "gurus are often in maya and are often asuras" is the allowed position, and we are not allowed to say "gurus must be pure servants of Krishna," there is nothing really to debate. They are admitting they are wrong de facto by not debating, or tilting and cheating the terms of debate. Their insults to the Mahajanas was the beginning of the end for them, Srila Prabhupada says -- when great souls are insulted "you are finished." ys pd

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NUN SEES KRISHNA LOKA 

This is incredible! It appears that the great 16th century Catholic mystic, Saint Teresa of Avila, had a vision of Sri Krishna in the eternal Vrindavan!
Saint Teresa in Seville recorded in her "Accounts of Conscience" chapter 38, August 9, 1575:

“Suddenly a recollection came to me with such a great interior light that I seemed to be in another world, and my spirit found itself within itself, in a very delightful forest and orchard, so much so that it made me remember what is said in the Song of Songs: Veniat dilectus meus in hortum suum – come He, my beloved, to His garden and eat its delicate fruits.

“I saw there, in this Eliseo (delicious place where great souls go), a blackish youth with a strange beauty; On top of his head he had something like a garland, not a crown, of great stones, and many maidens who walked there with him, with bouquets in their hands, all singing praises to God.

I did nothing but open my eyes so as not to be distracted and it was not possible for me to take my attention off it."

“There was a music of angels and singing of birds, which the soul enjoyed, although I did not hear it with my physical ears, but the soul was in that delight.
I looked as there was no other man there."

“This lasted for more than an hour and a half – that I could not take my eyes off or my attention, and with great delight, something different from other visions; and what I got from there was more love for God and keeping him more deeply present with that beauty, it is not possible that it was imagination."

(Accounts of Conscience August 9, 1575)

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WHERE IS THE LOVE?

NOTICE THE LOVE HERE

PADA: Yeah, people ask me that all the time. Why do so many Hare Krishnas hate the other Hare Krishnas? The Berkeley Police told me -- the Hare Krishnas will not kill a cow, but they will kill you and eat you for dinner -- in a heartbeat. The Hare Krishnas hate your guts. Los Angeles police, same thing, these people killed your friend and will KILL you over here at Watseka temple. 

Ummm yep, cannot argue that, they DO want to kill me. And they would if they thought they could get away with it. Trivrikrama swami greets me at Rathayatra, "Holy F*cking hell, you are still walking on the planet and are not six feet under already"? 

So yeah, lots of hatred going on here, cannot be denied. But why? Because the atmosphere has become polluted with hateful speech, mostly from the GBC guru guys, "go harass a ritvik (anyone who worships Srila Prabhupada and not them) today and we will reward you with a sweet ball." 

They are spreading hate, and it manifests in odious ways. And the people they hate the most are the people who promote worship of Srila Prabhupada the most, ironic huh?

Meanwhile check out these "karmi" skating girls. They support each other, hug each other, have feelings for each other, and in sum -- they love and protect each other. We don't. Duh!  What kind of society do we have? 

I forgot, it is a society where we have crash courses in -- Trauma Informed Leadership, Trauma Therapy, Survivor's Forums, and "Classes to help free devotees of chemical dependency, addictive behaviors, and other ill effects from traumatic experiences." 

OK, we have a society that is not full of love, support and helpfulness, rather we have one where people are suffering trauma, if not suffering being starved, beaten and molested as children. And then -- not much support for the victims, but plenty of support for the leaders who orchestrated all the trauma -- who then get lifetime millionaire lifestyles paid for by ISKCON. 

Which further re-traumatizes the victims, the leaders of the abuse process are being worshiped as saints. So we have a long way to go to get to the skating girls level of care and concern for one another.    

Classic example of what I mean here. If we go to any normal mundane man, or female ice skaters on main street USA etc. and tell them there is a situation where children are being starved, beaten, molested, sometimes raped -- and then after being severely traumatized -- some of the victims commit suicide, the normal mundane person will react by wanting to figure out a way to help those children. 

What happens when PADA tells a lot of "devotees" the same thing?

Well as it turns out, the children's situation is not even any sort of problem on their radar. Why always negative news? Nothing to see here! What is the problem then? The problem is that PADA's editor is driving a Taxi around San Francisco, where people are going to Mc Donalds and Pizza houses, and moreover there are prostitutes and drug dealing folks riding around in my car. Forsooth! Ooops! Same job Jayananda had here!

So the problem is that PADA editor is having a job, so he can fund his program, and his program is helping children, so it is evil. Ummm what? The problem is not traumatized children, it is PADA trying to help save those children. Or worse, the real problem is -- pizza? 

See what I mean? Then GBC folks, and their hand maidens like Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, HKC Jaipur, Matura Pati etc. all complain that the real problem is -- PADA -- helping the children. And worse, getting money from the pizza people to fund his work. Even worse, he is getting help from the mundane pizza society's law enforcement, courts and media to help him because -- none of us will. And many of us will try to thwart what he does. OK so the pizza society knows mistreating children has to be contained, they don't! 

Is there any wonder those children are traumatized, when the whistle blowers exposing their abuse are the entire problem, or even pizzas are the problem, but not the abuse or the abusers? Meanwhile, over time actually a lot of people even agreed with a lot of my points over the years, but they were afraid of making waves. So that created a vacuum where evil doers could function unchallenged. 

But learning how to love cannot be made by legislated GBC laws and therapy groups. If legislation produced love, Krishna would legislate we all have to love Him. That is not possible. We have to motivate ourselves to have the right desires, it has to be internally done. Just like these skater girls, no one has to tell them to love the other skater girls, they do so spontaneously because that is in their hearts. 

So the real problem in ISKCON is not so much the bogus gurus, although they added to it, it is that a lot of devotees have no feelings for other devotees, or even the children of ISKCON. And when we came out with the poison issue there was a lot of push back, because there was no love. 

Oddly, some skater girls on Venice beach took my poison pamphlet and asked me, what happened? I said, this man was complaining of poison. They all looked sad and felt emotional. That is because their heart chakra is up and running, while the devotees there gave me vulture glares, and even some of them pounced on me, because they hated that we were exposing their whole false guru scam, and probably, the assassination of the actual guru. So, until we get some of the heart chakra problem fixed, nothing else will be. 

So the sad looks on the skater giris on Venice Beach vs the vulture looks of the devotees says it all, there is a lack of concern for others, not just against me -- although I could gripe about it forever -- but a lack of love for Srila Prabhupada -- and thereby, lack of love for ISKCON, his devotees, his women and children, his temples and deities, his books and so on. 

As one karmi lady friend told me, there is clear lack of sympathy for Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON because any elderly man who complains he is being poisoned by his staff members would get a lot of aggressive concern from the family of that man, but ISKCON seems to have -- not much feelings -- even for the same complaints from their own guru. 

They have a lack of love and concern for their own so-called master, no wonder they allowed so many children and others to become victims, they just did not care enough, because care comes from love, and they lack the love to care. The good news is, at least they have a lot of care for -- taxi driving and pizzas, priority A1.

ys pd angel108b@yaho.com