Monday, November 10, 2025

JPS / PADA vs MD / Legal Expense / Schism 11 10 25

 



PADA: OK except Jayapataka has us banned, beaten, sued and killed. I fail to see how this will unite all the groups? When are the Jayapataka people going to allow back all of the ritviks? According to this video, the Gaudiya Matha people, BV Puri people, and other groups are allowed into ISKCON, and on top of that the GBC is trying to join hands with the mleccha dharma meat eating religions like the Christians, Muslims and Jews, but never -- the ritviks? We keep seeing photos of the GBC guys hanging out with the mleccha dharma leaders, but not us? ys pd  

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PADA vs Madhusudan Russia: Yep, you are right! The books will sva-print themselves, sva-distribute themselves, temples will sva-build themselves, deities will sva-appear in these temples, and sva- worship themselves, and none of us are needed. Ooops! Even a five years old child knows this will never sva-happen on its own, because even children know that people are required for all of this. 

Srila Prabhupada never says all of this will all sva-happen on its own without the work of his devotees. Rather he says it is our duty to do all these works. 

And some person asked me -- just now -- if any of the sannyasa in ISKCON are bona fide. I should not answer him, because he will sva-answer himself. That means you are angry we are helping others and not allowing them to sva-speculate on their own. Of course, I am going to answer this person and not tell him to sva-answer himself. It is our duty to help others in the process.

Sorry, we ritviks monkeys are helping people and not telling them to sva-realize everything on their own, telling the deity to sva-worship itself etc., this is basically atheist idea. All of these services are required, and people are needed to do all these services, and that is the order of the acharya. 

Yep, we are also suing people for mistreating children, also not needed, let the children sva-suffer without our help. Sorry, nope, it is our duty to help these children. The idea that all services to Krishna do not require us people -- but will all sva-happen without any of us devotees doing the work, means you want Krishna to do all the work. That is not the system. 

Today I am doing my laundry, and that is because I do not expect Krishna to sva-come over here and do it for me. Is someone not taking their medications? 

hee hee. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PADA: Yep, the GBC people complained to me that I cost them $100,000,000 in legal fees. Prabhupada was against spending all this money on lawyers. ys pd

You have to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra against the demons. Just like in Australia, the demons have instituted a case against us, a big case by the city authorities. So what can be done? They wanted to appoint big, big lawyers. I have advised, 'Don't appoint lawyers. You go on chanting. They may put you in the jail. So you go on chanting.' What is that? 

You chant on the street or chant on the jail, they're the same thing. So don't be afraid. They'll take you in the jail, 'Go on, Hare Kṛṣṇa.' We have got one means. Nārāyaṇa-parāḥ sarve na kutaścana bibhyati: (SB 6.17.28) 'Those who are devotees, they are not afraid of anything.' Svargāpavarga-narakeṣv api tulyārtha-darśinaḥ: 'Either they're sent in the heavenly planet or in the hell planet, it doesn't matter.' We want simply to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and remember Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It doesn't matter whether it is in the hell or heaven."
(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Los Angeles, September 13, 1972)

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GBC Brazil "woke up" from their slumber

BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENTAL COUNCIL (CGB) COMMISSION

Pindamonhangaba, 22 OCTOBER 2025.

The Executive Committee of the CGB received from the CPO Brazil (Office of Child Protection) the report 003/2025 which sets out compliance criteria for the restrictions imposed on Ramadhanu das.

The resolutions of the CPO must be fully fulfilled by Ramadhanu das; and their total compliance MUST BE monitored by the Presidents of Temples and Rural Projects, who will also respond in case of non-compliance with protective measures.

In case Ramadhanu fails to comply with any of the protective measures, it will be subject to action before CPO International and GBC International for its disconnecting from ISKCON.

Any member of ISKCON facilitating non-compliance with these measures, either by intentional action, negligence or omission, which is blatant, notorious and proven, may be subject to Disciplinary Administrative Process (PAD) for disobedience or complicity in non-complyance.

The same applies to any ISKCON member who, from the publication of this notification, apologizes publicly for non-compliance with these measures.

Your servant,
Digitally signed document
MARCELO DA COSTA FONSECA
Date: 24/10/2025 08:19:24-0300

Mayapur Candra das

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How Schisms Begin

By Narasimha das

Recently a regular public harinama sankritana program of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples was joined by the followers of a departed self-appointed “guru” who has “re-initiated” some of Srila Prabhupada’s fallen disciples and often tried to insult or minimize Srila Prabhupada in various other ways. These followers came to distribute transcripts of this poser’s lectures and sing his so-called pranam mantras. 

These folks often say there are many living diksa-gurus and “jagat-gurus” who are equal to (or almost equal to) Srila Prabhupada, although none of these fellows can doing anything tangible to increase the Krishna consciousness movement around the world. Indeed, they and their followers distract from Srila Prabhupada’s real mission, as do the fallen leaders of the vitiated iskcon cults.

These leaders and their followers try to minimize and insult Srila Prabhupada and his disciples as soon they hear that Srila Prabhupada is the real acharya for this age. They are infuriated when devotees try to politely explain that he ordered ritvik initiations for the future of the Krishna consciousness movement. 

They foolishly say, “Ritvik philosophy is offensive!” And they accuse faithful devotees of being narrow-minded and sectarian. [Note: the term ritvik was instructed by Srila Prabhupada. It is a bona fide Vedic term mentioned many times in Bhagavatam and throughout the Vedas. It is not a “vada”, or philosophical interpretation, but rather refers to a practical system of sadhana by which priests conduct Vedic sacrifices under the auspices of the self-realized acharya.]

The parallels between modern-day deviants and the deviated disciples of Srila Advaitacharya are clear when one carefully studies the purports of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. The real acharyas for this age have explained how schisms begin among the followers of the bona fide spiritual master. And they have explained why such concocters are ruined in due course.
“Some of the disciples strictly accepted the orders of the acharya and others deviated, independently concocting their own opinions under the spell of daivi-maya.” (Cc. Adi 12.9)

“This verse describes the beginning of a schism. When disciples do not stick to the principle of accepting the order of their spiritual master, immediately there are two opinions. Any opinion different from the opinion of the spiritual master is useless. One cannot infiltrate materially concocted ideas into spiritual advancement. That is deviation. There is no scope for adjusting spiritual advancement to material ideas.” (Cc. Adi 12.9, Purport)

The reference above specifically refers to the schism among the disciples of Sri Advaita. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura elaborates on this point in his purports of Sri Chaitanya Bhagavat by explaining that some of the followers of Sri Advaitacharya wanted to worship Him as Krishna Himself rather than as the topmost Vaishnava worshipper of the Supreme Personalities of Godhead, Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai. In this way they tried to minimize Lord Nityananda as being inferior to Sri Advaita and thus distracted from the understanding that only Lord Chaitanya is Krishna Himself and that He is approached only through the mercy of His direct counterpart, Sri Nityananda Prabhu.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta explains, “By the mercy of Sri Nityananda one can recognize Vaishnavas headed by Sri Advaita, and only by the mercy of Sri Nityananda can one understand that Sri Gaurasundara is Krishna.” (Chaitanya Bhagavat 22.135, Purport)

“The order of the spiritual master is the active principle in spiritual life. Anyone who disobeys the order of the spiritual master immediately becomes useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.10)

“Here is the opinion of Srila Krishnadas Gosvami. Persons who strictly follow the orders of the spiritual master are useful in executing the will of the Supreme, whereas persons who deviate from the strict order of the spiritual master are useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.10, Purport)

Neophyte devotees often wonder how it is that there are many pitfalls on the path of devotional service, particularly due to so many pseudo-bhaktas and pseudo-gurus misleading newcomers. The great acharya Krishnadas Kaviraja Gosvami explains, “Paddy is mixed with straw at first, and one must fan it to separate the paddy from the straw.” (Cc. Adi 12.12)

Srila Prabhupada elaborates: “This example given by Kṛishnadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī is very appropriate. In the case of the Gauḍīya Maṭha members, one can apply a similar process. There are many disciples of Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, but to judge who is actually his disciple, to divide the useful from the useless, one must measure the activities of such disciples in executing the will of the spiritual master. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura tried his best to spread the cult of Śrī Chaitanya Mahāprabhu to countries outside India. 

When he was present he patronized the disciples to go outside India to preach the cult of Śrī Chaitanya Mahāprabhu, but they were unsuccessful because within their minds they were not actually serious about preaching His cult in foreign countries; they simply wanted to take credit for having gone to foreign lands and utilize this recognition in India by advertising themselves as repatriated preachers. Many svāmīs have adopted this hypocritical means of preaching for the last eighty years or more, but no one could preach the real cult of Kṛishṇa consciousness all over the world. 

They merely came back to India falsely advertising that they had converted all the foreigners to the ideas of Vedānta or Kṛishṇa consciousness, and then they collected funds in India and lived satisfied lives of material comfort. As one fans paddy to separate the real paddy from useless straw, by accepting the criterion recommended by Kṛishnadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī one can very easily understand who is a genuine world-preacher and who is useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.12, Purport).

Apparently not all who approach the Krishna consciousness movement are sincere in their motives. Similarly, not all students and teachers who approach the Vedic literatures want to realize the conclusive truth. Many only seek material wealth and power. In Srimad-Bhagavatam, Lord Krishna explains to Sri Uddhava how such insincere persons are misled and weeded out from true Vedic paths leading to pure devotional service. This passage below is cited by Lord Chaitanya, speaking to Srila Sanatana Gosvami:

"'There are many types of Vedic literatures and supplementary Puranas. In each of them there are particular demigods who are spoken of as the chief demigods. This is just to create an illusion for moving and nonmoving living entities. Let them perpetually engage in such imaginations. However, when one analytically studies all these Vedic literatures collectively, he comes to the conclusion that Lord Viṣhṇu is the one and only Supreme Personality of Godhead.'...” (Cc. Madhya 20.145)

In this age it is nearly impossible for most people to analytically study all Vedic literatures collectively. Fortunately, however, for the immense benefit of sincere seekers of truth, great teachers have done this work for us. All great acharyas, such as Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, Vishnu Swami, Sridhara Svami, Rupa Gosvami, Jiva Gosvami, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati and many others have given the exact same conclusions about pure devotional service to Krishna that Srila Prabhupada has taught—and is still teaching-- all over the world.

Srila Prabhupada explains the means of success and why personal motives for sense enjoyment are dangerous in the Krishna consciousness movement: "I have got this personal experience in my Guru Maharaj's institution. Different Godbrothers took the words of Guru Maharaj in different interpretations for sense gratification and the whole mission [was] disrupted. 

This is still going on for the last 40 years without any proper settlement. I am always afraid of this crack, but I am sure if our aim is to serve Krishna sincerely and the Spiritual Master simultaneously, that will be our success. That means serve Krishna and the Spiritual Master simultaneously with equal faith and serious vow, and then success is sure. " (Letter, Oct. 1969)

Hare Krishna. Om Tat Sat.

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Hindustan News: Trump Booed


PADA: Trump got booed at football game (Hindustan Times). Yep America is losing jobs, and does not have enough electrical grid to make a lot of new factories for more jobs. In other words, the endless promises of making many factories and "millions of new jobs" is not happening, along with many other promises that are not being met. 

People are gradually starting to figure this out, we are losing jobs, farmers are going bankrupted, importers are being bankrupted due to tariffs, more stores are closing than opening, the deficit is climbing more than ever. In short -- what was promised is not happening, rather things seem to be deteriorating. 

And boasting that we are the wealthiest nation due to tariffs, also makes no sense. Taxing the citizens does not produce wealth, it makes the citizens more and more poor, and less able to buy needed things -- like food, gas and rent. No nation has ever become wealthy by over taxing the citizens. Of course a lot of these people do not study history. 

Then again, the Supreme Court might rule against these tariffs, which will produce a logistics nightmare scenario of all the citizens getting their money refunded by trying to undo billions of transactions. It would be a logistical crazy town. 

And moreover, every time they say the prices are going down, when everyone knows the price of food is up, and tariffs etc. are making the prices of everything else go up, it just makes the leaders look like they think everyone is stupid, or the leaders are clueless. 

Anyway, this is called buyer's remorse, people got exactly what they voted for, and now they are realizing what they voted for. ys pd  

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The leaders always have opulent dwellings, not the citizens. told ya. ys pd



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