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HKM Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Book changes Quotes / 04 28 24

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These devotees have a really nice big temple program, which seems to be always crowded with visitors. And the government gave them control of a big cow protection property. Good service!

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Original Bhagavatam Reprint:  

https://www.gofundme.com/f/printing-of-the-original-1962-1964-1965-delhi-bhagavatams?


PADA: This was one of the first books I got in 1971. Very dear to me personally, and I hope we can get it reprinted. It is a rare jewel! 

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Mathura Pati Update

OK still some confusion on this, so here we go (again)!

Mathura Pati promotes the IRM against PADA, but Krishna Kant wanted me go to the Caribbean to work under Jayapataka. Neither the IRM or Mathura Pati has ever explained why it would be a good idea for me to work under the leader of a homosexual and pedophile "Auschwitz for kids" program. 

Meanwhile Jayapataka is a main suspect in the poisoning of Prabhupada. Notice how badly these guys select their "authorities." And many devotees think I would have disappeared for good in the Caribbean. And the IRM and Mathura Pati have never explained why I made a mistake rejecting their "authority"?      

Then Mathura Pati promotes as his authority and spokesman Bhakta das -- who was arrested for designer drugs and child porn. And he is the new authority of the Mathura Pati society. Welcome to the Mathura Pati "Prabhupada program" -- where you can listen to people who are -- Thai bar girl chasers, arrested for selling designer drugs, who get arrested for child porno, and who are cheer leaders of a Saint Radhanath pedophile guru program! Bring your kids! Why does Mathura Pati want children to accept a person arrested for child porn as their shiksha guru? 

So clearly when Mathura Pati says he is ONLY promoting Prabhupada, he has lied. He is instead promoting the cheer leaders of his homosexual and pedophile guru program, which is clearly not Prabhupada's. And thus he has lied that his homosexual and pedophile guru pal's program is -- Prabhupada's. 

It is not. 

He is still trying to juxtapose his Bhakta das / Saint Radhanath / homosexual and pedophile guru process with Prabhupada's, just like the GBC. And he is advertising his child porn arrested authority as the spokesman for his "Prabhupada society."   

But that is Mathura Pati's level of advancement, he finds a nice child porn arrested criminal who is promoting a pedophile guru process leader like Saint Radhanatha, and he bows down and makes that person his shiksha guru and the authority of his organization. And he advertises to the world that people should listen to his pedophile guru promoting pals. And then he says, he only listens to Prabhupada. Sorry this is a lie, Bhakta das and Saint Radhanath are NOT Prabhupada. 

And get your kids to come along! So this is called grooming of children. Mathura Pati is grooming children to listen to his friends glorification of his Saint Radhanath pedophile guru program, so he can entice children to worship his Saint Radhanath pedophile guru program. OK at this point, none of the other Prabhupadanugas are promoting Saint Radhanath or his cheer leaders.

Did If forget to mention there was an anal sex epidemic in the Mathura Pati / Bhakta das / Saint Radhanath program. So as soon as Mathura Pati finds a nice anal sex with children program cheer leader, he makes that person the authority of his institution.      

Sorry! Jayapataka is a prime suspect in the poisoning of Prabhupada. We cannot and will not accept him as an authority. Jayapataka's whispers are evidently on the poison tapes, which Mathura Pati's pal Krishna Kant told me NOT TO RELEASE so they could save their poison party pals. 

And Krishna Kant also said do NOT sue the BBTI for original books. So when Mathura Pati says he wants original books, that is another lie. He wanted me to surrender to the IRM and NOT have our original books lawsuit.

Mathura Pati never explains why he is promoting the people who want to save the evident killers / Judas party -- of pure devotees from being exposed. Of course, many people say, that is because he is a defender of these poisoners. Why does Mathura Pati work with the people who want to defend the poisoners of pure devotees from being exposed? OK some have said, he is a boot licker of Judas.  

And it is bona fide to quote Hari Sauri, Bhavananda's bucket boy. Oh yeah, another program that has created an anal sex epidemic. Mathura Pati knows how to pick his authorities! If it has "anus" and "sex" involved, he falls down on the ground and claims he has found his worshipable shiksha authority guru masters! And when he sees PADA is not worshiping his anal sex guru process, he starts crying and seeks shelter of the divine words of Hari Sauri to give him comfort! And he says Prahlad is a good devotee, because he cites Hari Sauri. 

OK Saint Radhanath's credibility is basically in the tank with PADA's readers, and almost zero of our readers think we should promote such persons like Radhanath -- or their Bhakta das cheer leaders. And some people are very upset that we need to promote the IRM complaints about PADA, without mentioning that the IRM wanted us to work with Jayapataka, the leader of the worst ISKCON molester program. In other words -- the Mathura Pati process -- lied. They never explain that they wanted PADA to surrender to the poisoners of pure devotee / molester camp in Mayapur party's leader Jayapataka.

More recently Mathura Pati has been openly quoting an ex-devotee who has since become a fanatical Christian, and who openly says he hates Prabhupada and the Krishna religion. OK so we also have to work with the people who hate Krishna to fix things. Yep, as soon as Mathura Pati finds a person who says he HATES KRISHNA, he falls downs and licks that person's shoes and asks them to become the shiksha guru of his organization. And now he is crying because PADA is not joining his Krishna haters society.    

Yep, let us find people who HATE KRISHNA and make them the authorities of the Mathura Pati program! Why does Mathura Pati always go to the slime ball people like Krishna haters, pedophile guru promoters, designer drug sellers, child porno programs folks and so on? Because, as Srila Prabhupada says, a man is known by his company, and that is the company he seeks out, because he is like them. Like minds attract!  

But I am honored, you guys have to work even with the Krishna haters and poisoners of pure devotee's party to oppose me, that means, my work must be a very important priority to some of you Judas / pedo guru defender guys. Did I forget to mention, it is too little too late, the cat is out of the bag already. 

Anyway, this is a good development, Mathura Pati's position is being more clear all the time. Let us surrender to the explanations of the Krishna haters, pedo guru lovers, child porno arrested deviants etc., that is how we will fix things. And PADA is bogus because he is not joining Mathura Pati's pedo guru and Krishna hater's society! And he is not in the Caribbean under the authority of Judas! Oh boo hoo, gimmee a kleenex please already! 

Told ya!

ys pd 

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ORIGINAL BOOKS QUOTES

These are 20 authentic quotes:

No, the printing of the Gitar Gan cover this fashion is not at all approved by me. You have done most nonsensically. Why change the cover? When people look to see the Bhagavad-gita they expect to see Krishna and Arjuna, not the picture of Krishna with cow. You have done a great mistake by changing the front picture and it will hamper the sale. In future you don't do any changes without asking me first.’

Letter to: Bhargava

Dated: May 29, 1976

Location: Honolulu

‘You may title this book, Teachings of Lord Kapila, but it must be subtitled, "The Son of Devahuti". That will remain, do not try to change it. The Americans may like it or not like it, but we must make the distinction between devahuti putra kapila, and the atheistic Kapila. Do not try to change anything without my permission.’

Letter to: Radhavallabha

Dated: Aug. 26, 1976

Location: New Delhi

‘Please accept my blessings. With reference to your letter to Harikesa dated 21st inst., regarding the purport, 2nd paragraph to Bhagavatam 2.2.38, it is clear. Do not try to change anything.’

Letter to: Gopiparanadhana

Dated: Sept. 28, 1976

Location: Vrindaban

‘I also do not like too much editorial work. This too much editorial work on Gitopanisad has created some misunderstanding between the editorial staffs. Anyway, in future, one man should edit it and be sufficient for our printing. And I do not want that Lord Caitanya's Teachings should be edited again and typed again and waste time in that way.’

Letter to: Satsvarupa

Dated: Dec. 23, 1967

Location: San Francisco

‘Our actual credit is that we are simply repeating Bhagavad-gita As It Is without changing it, altering it or adding any mundane opinion. We simply repeat what previous acarya have said and that is our merit.’

Letter to: S. K. Roy

Dated: Dec. 16, 1974

Location: Bombay

‘I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated 4 March, 1970, along with the edited copy of the Foreword to KRSNA. Thank you very much. The few alterations of dates is approved by me, so it is alright.’

Letter to: Hayagriva

Dated: March 9, 1970

Location: Los Angeles

The nonsense, they are... They are correcting my trans... Rascal. Who has done this? Munayaḥ is addressing all these munis.

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

Such a rascal Sanskrit scholar. Here it is addressed, sambodhana, and they [indistinct] it---"munayaḥ---of the munis." It is very risky to give to them for editorial direction. Little learning is dangerous. However proper Sanskrit scholar, little learning, dangerous. Immediately they become very big scholars, high salaried, and write all nonsense. Who they are? [pause] Then?

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

Prabhupāda: Distorting. What can I do? These cannot... These rascals cannot be educated. Dangerous. Little learning, dangerous. So how to correct? The leader of these dangerous---Rādhā-vallabha.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Rādhā-vallabha?

Prabhupāda: Hmm. He's a dangerous, who maintains these rascal with this work. He'll always have questions and alteration. That is his business. That is American business. They take that always. What can I do? Ultimate, it goes for editorial. They make changes, such changes.

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

These rascal editorial... That Easy Journey, original, this [indistinct] Hayagrīva has changed so many things.

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

So you... What you are going... It is very serious situation. You write one letter that "Why you have made so many changes?" And whom to write? Who will care? All rascals are there. Write to Satsvarūpa that "This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim." The next printing should be again to the original way.

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

So write them immediately, that "The rascal editors, they are doing havoc, and they are being maintained by Rāmeśvara and party."

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

So they are doing very freely and dangerously. And this rascal is always after change, Rādhā-vallabha. He's a great rascal. [long pause] Read.

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

So everything is explained in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. And then these unfortunate rascals, they are distorting. What can I do? How to stop it?

Type: Conversation

Date: June 22, 1977

Location: Vṛndāvana

We are therefore presenting Bhagavad-gītā as it is. We do not change. Why should you change? What right you have got to change? If Bhagavad-gītā is a book of authority, and if I make my own interpretation, then where is the authority? Can you change the law book according to your interpretation? Then what is the meaning of that law book? That is not law book. You cannot change. Similarly, if you accept Bhagavad-gītā as the book of authority, you cannot change the meaning. That is not allowed. What right? If you have got some opinion, if you have got some philosophy, you can write in your own book.

Type: Bhagavad-gita

Date: April 27, 1974

Location: Hyderabad

‘I have seen on the new books printed that on the spine of the jacket the words “Bhaktivedanta Book Trust” have been omitted. Formally they were there on all the books. It is understood from Ramesvara that you removed these words. Why did you do this? Who authorized it? Did Bali Mardan authorize it? These things must be there. Please see to it.’

Letter to: Jayadvaita

Dated: Dec. 2, 1974

Location: Bombay

You cannot interpret my book in your own way. That is not allowed. No gentleman will do that. You, if you have got a different view, you put your views in your own book. Don't drag my book. That is honesty. And because my book is popular, you take advantage of my book, and you interpret in your own way, this is most dishonest. You cannot do that.

Type: Conversation with Dr Copeland

Date: May 20, 1975

Location: Melbourne

‘I have received back the edited papers on Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Brahmananda & others cannot change the style. They want to see if there is any grammatical discrepancy.’

Letter to: Satsvarupa

Dated: Jan. 22, 1968

Location: Los Angeles

‘I have sent a few tapes to Bhagavan das. He sends to you his edited copies and they may be made final. I want two editings only, just to see if there is any grammatical or spelling mistake.’

Letter to: Satsvarupa

Dated: Feb. 15, 1970

Location: Los Angeles

Of course, I am not well versed in your language, but you simply, if you understand that English and translate it into Parsi, that will do. As it is, you translate. Don't make any change. Then it will be all right. [Ātreya Ṛṣi translates] And when there is difficulty, you can ask Ātreya Ṛṣi. Harikeśa.

3 comments:

  1. JD: Jayapataka. Bhavananda's shadow ... Hari Sauri. Child porn arrested Bhakta Das. Radhanath ... who helps Kirtanananda. A person who is ex-devotee ... who now hates Krishna. What an A+ list of the people we should avoid, but he is attracted to them.

    What a toxic combo! What could go wrong here? To say ... these people represent Prabhupada ... is a flat out lie. And Mathura Pati is a liar to say they do. This is a house of cards made of lies. But ... the people who defend the GBC are famous for making lies.

    It is sad Mathura Pati publicly preaches that Bhakta das is an authority ... when he is against the ritviks ... and he favors these bogus gurus. And he is a criminal on top of that. You are right ... perverts and criminals are attracted to one another. He finds these perverts, crooks, pedophile guru people, arrested for porn people ... because they are the same quality as he is.

    But for sure ... we have to expose ... he is not quoting Prabhupada. He is quoting everyone except Prabhupada. And now he is even quoting the people who hate Prabhupada. His real colors are manifesting.

    That is why Prabhupada says ... the demons will hide in the middle of a group of Krishna's cows or friends. And they make pretend they are one of them ... but He is able to detect them. Just because a person puts on a dhoti does not mean they are not demons. We have seen that many times already. If a person is arrested for child porn, he would not ever be made the spokesman for a spiritual society, he will be the spokesman in the demon society.

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  2. SD Dasi: I know Bhakta das has the reputation for being a criminal a long time ago. I saw him once. He looked way too nervous and animated. Drugs are maybe involved? Something is wrong with the wiring.

    "The Poppy Priest." I was told he tried to come to different sanghas ... but he is not really respected in almost any sangha ... that I know of. He is sort of known because of all his criminal record.

    Why on earth he became the big spokesman and authority for the Mathura Pati sangha?

    Here is why! Bhakta das is a criminal. Radhanath is another criminal. Mathura Pati made a video ... saying he has been a thug criminal too. Simple. Connect the dots.

    That is the problem for us. The criminals always gather together and make alliance. We sit around waiting for the army to come and save us. But there is none.

    I wish we could get more organized like the criminals are, at least they stick together. They do defend and help one another ... while most of us are on our own.

    I look at some temple web cams and can see some kirtana and deities sometimes. Most of the outsiders here keep to themselves ... we are not organized. I like Madhu Pandit's program and wish we had one of his temples here.

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  3. Mother Bear: In ISKCON the criminals look out for one another. I'm shure everyone knows Bhakta and Saint Radhanath are criminals by now.

    But the regular criminals have a code of conduct.

    A person arrested for child porn ... not allowing into their group. Personna non grata ... even among criminals. These "devotees" make the person with child porn charges ... the big leader n' spokesperson. That means ??? regular criminals are more advanced than this bunch.

    Just shows how degraded and perverted some of these "devotees" are. The regular criminals have a code ... these devotees have none. I suppose ... if I was arrested for child porn ... they would put me in charge of the children's education department.

    They have no morals and no moral compass. The regular prisoners are more advanced than them. They are criminals ... but the real criminals cannot give them any respect.

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