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Wednesday 13 March 2024

Appearance of Sri Purushottama dasa Thakurśrī-sadāśiva kavirāja--baḍa mahāśaya śrī-puruṣottama-dāsa--tāṅhāra tanaya

"The twenty-third and twenty-fourth prominent devotees of Nityānanda Prabhu were Sadāśiva Kavirāja and his son Puruṣottama dāsa, who was the tenth gopāla."

(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta » Ādi-līlā 11.38 | 1973 Edition)

ājanma nimagna nityānandera caraṇe
nirantara bālya-līlā kare kṛṣṇa-sane

"Since birth, Puruṣottama dāsa was merged in the service of the lotus feet of Lord Nityānanda Prabhu, and he always engaged in childish play with Lord Kṛṣṇa."
(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta » Ādi-līlā 11.39 | 1973 Edition)

Śrīla Prabhupāda: "[...] Puruṣottama dāsa Ṭhākura sometimes lived at Sukhasāgara, near the Cākadaha and Śimurāli railway stations. All the Deities installed by Puruṣottama Ṭhākura were formerly situated in Beleḍāṅgā-grāma, but when the temple was destroyed the Deities were brought to Sukhasāgara. 

When that temple merged in the bed of the Ganges, the Deities were brought with Jāhnavā-mātā's Deity to Sāhebaḍāṅgā Beḍigrāma. Since that place also has been destroyed, all the Deities are now situated in the village named Cānduḍe-grāma, which is situated one mile up from Pālapāḍā, as referred to above."

(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta » Ādi-līlā 11.39 » Purport | 1973 Edition)

"Śrīla Prabhupāda: "[...] The son of Sadāśiva was Puruṣottama Ṭhākura, and his son was Kānu Ṭhākura. The descendants of Kānu Ṭhākura know him as Nāgara Puruṣottama [...] Both Puruṣottama Ṭhākura and Kānu Ṭhākura had many disciples from brāhmaṇa families. Most of the disciplic descendants of Kānu Ṭhākura now reside in the village named Gaḍabetā, by the River Śilāvatī, in the Midnapore district."

(Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta » Ādi-līlā 11.40 » Purport | 1973 Edition) 

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KILL GURU AND BECOME GURU

If anyone would like a free copy of Prabhupada Truth Commission's digital book Kill Guru Become Guru- Poisoning the Greatest Modern Day Saint, with all the facts and evidence on the matter, drop me a request at srigovinda@gmail.com

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UNITY IS NEEDED

PD: Thanks RM prabhu for your suggestion, we should unify the devotees. Great idea, I am all for it. However, I really did not start this particular conflict with other "Prabhupada" devotees. Krishna Kant's IRM announced that he wanted me to work under Jayapataka's control and go to the Caribbean on the Mayapur payroll, without consulting me. Then he started to complain I am not cooperating. Well maybe they should ask me if I am interested in cooperating with Jayapataka before they sign me up. 

And now the Prabhupadanuga EU are upset I am not in the Krishna Kant camp, same camp that wanted me to help Jayapataka cover up the Mayapur child abuse, the poison issue and other crimes. OK so these folks are compromisers still tethered to the GBC's gurus, like Jayapataka. 

They have no idea the rest of the world has moved on from there a long time ago. For example Krishna Kant still says on his site he has defeated the "poison theory" and Prabhupadanuga EU is still advertising him, but there is no evidence the poison issue has been "defeated"? In other words they are still defending the Judas group of poisoners. No, the poison issue was never "defeated," and it is being accepted by more people all the time, including ex-IRM folks, GBC folks, Gaudiya Matha folks and even the media people asked me about it just now.


PADA IS NOT COOPERATING WITH JAYA POTATO HEAD!

So when I refused to cooperate with the IRM -- Krishna Kanta -- Jayapataka scheme, then the Krishna Kant IRM attacked my program of addressing -- the molesting issue, poison issue -- and he said I was bogus for working with Hansadutta to get the BBT rights. So he wanted to start a war, and he even said that -- "the IRM is going to war with PADA." Well yep, anyone who says we need to stop children from being raped and taking their lives has to be stopped, so they can save Jayapataka's Mayapur program, which they call the golden body of ISKCON. 

So Krishna Kant's IRM joined forces with Jayapataka to shut down the complaints about the molesting, poisoning, and book changes etc. Thus they have been working with the GBC, and the worst case of GBC, namely Jayapataka -- and not us. And now the Prabhupadanugas EU are promoting the same IRM folks, same people who wanted us to surrender to their Auschwitz for kids / Mayapur head messiah. OK so they are not even trying to unify things, they have been trying to force us to go back to supporting some of the GBC's worst case folks and "make a deal" with them.

But according to VEDIC principle, a person who is attacked has the authority to counter the attack, and we did. And so we exposed the IRM's connection to Jayapataka, and the IRM's compromise with the Jayapataka / Mayapur molesting empire, the poison Judas program, and the hatchet job book changes -- all the way back then in 1997. 

The Prabhupadanuga EU people already knew that we have said since 1997, we are not going to work with Krishna Kant's Jayapataka scheme, so it is a little silly of them to keep citing IRM as their authority now, knowing in advance we do not accept the IRM / Jayapataka's compromisers as our authority. If anything, more and more people are more and more disgusted with the information coming out of Mayapur about Jayapataka's regime there.  

Then later on the Prabhupadanuga EU people like Prahlad and HKC Jaipur began to complain I am not promoting their Bhakta das video -- and promoting Bhakta's Saint Radhanath program. And I am not citing Hari Sauri's writings -- who is Bhavananda's bucket boy, and I am not surrendering to the IRM and their plan for me to go to the Caribbean and be their Jayapataka stooge. Yeah, they wanted me to join them sitting in their Saint Radhanath / Bhavananda's writer / Jayapataka's Auschwitz for kids camp. Neine danke!

Then others took up Krishna Kant's complaint that we are destroying ISKCON, evidently because we oppose Jayaptaka's child rapes and suicides of victims program, and they started this whole idea "PADA is destroying the golden body of ISKCON" -- also because PADA is not in the Caribbean working under Jayapataka. OK but even the karmi police, FEDS, media, courts and really any average Joe citizen walking down the street -- already knows that a program that is banning, beating, mass molesting, suing and killing dissenters is not the golden body of God. Duh oh! 

Add to that, this group evidently poisoned their master. That is not the golden body of God according to all regular moral and civilized people walking down the road. And now many devotees admit, even Bhakti Vikas swami, the golden body of ISKCON is nothing more than a hollowed out -- shallow Hindu show bottle business -- there is no golden body there in the first place. So basically this is all a tempest in a tea cup. 

We are destroying the alleged golden body, which has no existence, it is a Hindu show bottle business scam. Meanwhile we did something tangible, we got hundreds of kids pulled out of their schools; and we did help reduce the suicides; and we did get some funding for the children -- who were sometimes homeless or living in their car etc. 

And we did get the original poison tape transcribed for the first time by my Bengali newspaper writer friend. And we helped get the rights to the original BBT books. My critics are simply making it harder to fix these issues, which means they are with the GBC direct or de facto. So if they want to support that agenda, so be it. 

Anyway we did something tangible to help victims. We also got the poison issue launched, and the book changes issue launched, by advertising these things in our newsletters. Again we got something tangible going. Meanwhile, the people who are attacking PADA have produced nothing substantial by doing that. 

What good has been produced by attacking PADA? Well at best, it has convinced at least some people to go back to ISKCON or join Narayan Maharaja. I fail to see how it is helping the situation. OK it is helping send people back to ISKCON or competing Gaudiya sanghas -- against the ritviks. It is hurting the ritviks program.

And that is why some people say they are GBC stooge plants, and they came to disturb the ritviks, and implant in their Jayapataka scheme to cause problems for the ritviks. I don't know, but their process has not helped the ritvik cause, that is for sure. 

And the result is -- the GBC people are always writing me to repeat the complaints made against me -- made by these folks like: -- Prahlad, the IRM, Prabhupadanugas EU, HKC Jaipur and etc. That means they are helping the GBC guys, OK the Auschwitz for kids people. Again if they want to support and encourage that agenda, so be it. And that is why molesters and abusers are still floating around Mayapur now, these guys have acted as their attack dogs to defend that regime against our complaints. 

They are giving ammunition to the child molester messiahs program, and the question we get all the time, are they doing that unknowingly or are they co-conspirators?  

And yes, that explains why we have had such a huge problem of a large number of children being beaten, molested, raped and committing suicide. Because as soon as we point out that this child mistreatment is the problem, these guys make me the problem, and that is how they have co-created their violent pedophile cult. 

And the fact they are meeting with the head leader of that cult, Jayapataka, and they have wanted me to make a deal with their Auschwitz for kids head honcho,  really explains the whole thing to me as far as I am concerned. So there has to be unity, but if we have to unify with either the leaders or cheer leaders of a pedophile cult, that won't work. 

But in any case I am not worried one way or other. I don't want to have a unified program that is compromised with a pedophile cult, better to have zero program than that. Srila Prabhupada felt the same way, he could not unite with the Gaudiya Matha's factions, including the various reform splinter groups, they were all compromised and he did not want to enable them. And he told us that, avoid all of them. So we need to unite, but under the correct agenda flag. And if they don't, or won't, so be it. 

But we have many hundreds, maybe thousands of people, who agree with PADA on all these issues, and we are moving ahead with them. And literally hundreds of devotees are joining the child abuse forum every month, and some of the other forums, so we are moving ahead with or without these compromisers. 

ys pd  angel108b@yahoo.com  

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REAL PRASADAM

This was one of my original complaints. Srila Prabhupada says, "you become what you worship." So I said, if we worship a lusty person who is also taking intoxicants, as we were in UK ISKCON in 1979, then the society will become contaminated by lust and intoxication mentality, because the society will become what -- it worships. If a society worships lusty beings as its gurus, then the society itself will develop lusty consciousness, and that is exactly what has happened. All sorts of lusty and intoxicated situations began to sprout from that root.

So when children are worshiping these same lusty people as their gurus, and some of these gurus are watching porno and so on, it will contaminate the children. There is a difference between porno or lusty art -- and for example seeing a woman breast feeding her baby. But if people are worshiping lusty beings, they can easily mistake a woman breast feeding her baby with lusty thinking.

I don't think ISKCON is dealing with one of the root issues, we cannot worship lusty beings and expect to have a society that is freeing itself of lust. It is like pouring petrol on a burning house to put out the fire, but that will only make it worse. So if we tell our children to distinguish the real meaning and process of sex and marriage, and we are also telling them to worship a lusty and maybe intoxicated person, we should expect them to be confused, and contaminated. ys pd

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MISSING TAPES

So much information has been hidden by a few unqualified and ambitious people in the very popular guru business. These people are using Prabhupada’s mission for their own profit, adoration and distinction.

Their cancerous disease is spreading through their followers throughout the world.
The current guru business in Iskcon and other groups is the great hoax in spiritual movements these days .

Here is further evidence to provide proof that these are facts.

“TWELVE EXAMPLES OF MISSING TAPES (Cont.)-THREE:

SRILA PRABHUPADA ADDS TWO MORE RITVIKS TO THE LIST OF NINE 

After Srila Prabhupada chose nine persons on July 7 to initiate on his behalf, which is found on tape, later Srila Prabhupada added two more to the list before the July 9th letter was signed and sent out. But there is no tape recording of these two additions, nor anything on the choosing of additional future ritviks. We know these items were discussed and recorded, as per the testimony of Gauridas Pandit das, an assistant to Tamal in Vrindaban in May / June 1977.

This is also mentioned in TKG’s Diary and by Tamal in his Topanga Canyon “confessions: “Later on I asked him two questions: ‘What about Brahmananda Swami?’ I asked him this because I happened to have an affection for Brahmananda Swami. So Prabhupada said, ‘No, not unless he's qualified.’ Before I got ready to type the letter, I asked him ‘Srila Prabhupada, is this all or do you want to add more?’

He said, “As is necessary, others may be added."

The appointment of two additional ritviks (Bhavananda, Hansadutta) and concurrent details about Srila Prabhupada’s speaking and mannerisms is described by Satsvarupa (SPLila, Vol 6, p. 345: "That's all," said Prabhupada. "Now you distribute. For the time being seven names.” Then he added two more. "So without waiting for me," said Prabhupada, “Whoever you consider deserves. That will depend on discretion."

Srila Prabhupada said nothing else, and after a few minutes Tamal Krishna asked if Prabhupada would like to hear a kirtan. Srila Prabhupada assented by a slight gesture, and the chanters, who had been waiting, came to join him. The next morning Srila Prabhupada added two more names, making a total of eleven disciples who would act as ritvik, or representatives of the acharya. Srila Prabhupada had not liked the idea of newcomers to ISKCON having to wait unnecessarily long to be initiated.

Now initiations could continue regularly at the discretion of his 11 selected men."
Satsvarupa used the available BBT tape of the July 7 conversation while working on his Prabhupada biography in the early 1980’s, but how did he know of the last two ritviks? Not being with Srila Prabhupada at that time, and with no tape of the appointment of the last two ritviks, how did Satsvarupa know?

This tape of Srila Prabhupada adding Bhavananda and Hansadutta to the list between July 7 and 9 is now missing.

FOUR: ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH NARAYAN MAHARAJA MISSING 

According to Bhagavat Maharaja (formerly Bhagwat das), there were additional conversations between Srila Prabhupada and Narayan Maharaja on Nov. 12-13, 1977 that are not found in the existing audio recordings.

Bhagavat Maharaja has written an essay that gives specific, multiple, and convincing evidence and arguments to validate that these talks occurred. But the tape(s) of these conversations do not exist today.

FIVE: WITNESS WHO HEARD OVER A DOZEN TIMES ABOUT RITVIK SYSTEM 

Ameyatma das testified he was told by Pita das that in Vrindaban he heard Srila Prabhupada in mid-1977 speaking at least a dozen times about future initiations via ritvik representatives: “One other thing he mentioned in the same letter was that he heard Srila Prabhupada say many times in Vrndavana in 1977 that initiations would be performed after his departure by the "ritvik acharya...” 

Pita das’ assertion is confirmed by Gauridas Pandit’s testimony. Where are these missing tapes?” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.328)

PADA: Pita dasa told me he knew that Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned in 1977, but he was too terrified to discuss it openly. He was shocked that I would just go ahead and bring it out, he thought I would not survive another 24 hours. He was still trying to bring the issue out in some sort of India court just before he departed. And he was really upset with himself for hiding the information, he felt he had let down his guru. Very sad, but he really encouraged me and that was very nice.

ys pd 

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1 comment:

  1. PADA: Yes Bhakta JJ, they are still arguing that PADA is a liar, which means they cannot make a point for point rebuttal to any of this. "PADA is a liar" is what their guru Jaypataka said in 1978, and they are just his sock puppet parrots all this time.

    But yeah IRM pal Prahlad said that PADA is not chanting his rounds, and evidently, that is why PADA opposes children being beaten and raped in the Holy Dham of Krishna. Whereas evidently Prahlad does chant his rounds, so he wants to stop anyone who oppose his child beatings and rapes in the Dham cult. Or what?

    HKC Jaipur said essentially the same thing, PADA is against our child rapes and suicides program because he is a sahajiya. I just discussed exactly this same thing with the mass MEDIA folks, the pedophile cult says we are fringies. so they can discredit us, and keep their child abuse regime going. And they also say we are fringies to make us targets for termination. They are all one and the same cult, the leaders, perps and their attack dogs.



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