Dear European Leaders,
Please accept our humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
With this message, we like to inform you about the decision on H.H. Lokanatha Swami that was taken by the Euro RGB during the recent meeting in Radhadesha.
Resolution 22/09/03
Based on the ‘GBC decision regarding Lokanath Swami’ approved on July 20th, 2022, the Euro RGB body is requesting Lokanath Swami not to visit, preach or initiate in ISKCON projects and communities in Europe.
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With this resolution, we are taking the same decision as ISKCON North America. Thank you for your acknowledgement of this resolution.
We request that local leaders, such as Zonal Supervisors, Chairmans of National Councils and TPs, contact disciples of Lokanatha Swami in their yatra and personally inform them about this decision.
If you have any questions or concerns about this topic, you might contact the Euro RGB EC via its secretary:
Euro.RGB.Secretary@pamho.net
The official statements by the GBC and the ISKCON Ministry of Communication on the case of Lokannatha Swami you find here:
https://iskconnews.org/gbc-releases-decision-on-lokanath-swami/
Hare Krishna
On behalf of the Euro RGB
your servant
Krsna Premarupa Dasa
Euro RGB Chairman
Krishna Premarupa Dasa was born 1977 in Zurich, Switzerland. After traveling in Asia he came in contact with Buddhism and developed a desire to become a monk. Srila Prabhupada`s Bhagavad Gita brought him later to Gaudiya Vaishnavism and made him join ISKCON Zurich in 2001. After living for one year in Odhisa, India, in order to understand more deeply the rich spiritual culture and lifestyle of Krishna Consciousness, he received initiation from H.H. Bhakti Svarupa Damodara Swami in Imphal, Manipur.
Coming back to Switzerland Krishna Premarupa Dasa, being a professional chef, soon served as the head cook of the Krishna Temple in Zurich. After second initiation in 2004 he started to serve mainly as Pujari, Preacher and Bhakta Leader.
In 2007, he became the Temple President for ISKCON Zurich and from October 2011 he started to serve as the RGB-Secretary for Switzerland. Besides his management responsibilities he is also giving cooking classes, organizing pilgrimages to India and Japa Retreats in Switzerland and also is involved in various Interfaith programs and ISKCON Communication activities.
Krishna Premarupa Dasa`s desire to deeply study the Sastras and to share Srila Prabhupada`s Teachings inspired him to undergo various Teacher Training courses within ISKCON and also within the secular world. As a result of that, he now serves ISKCON Zurich as a Bhakti Sastri Teacher and continues his own study in the form of Bhakti Vaibhava Courses. After successfully completing the GBC College Training in March 2017 he was appointed as Zonal Supervisor for ISKCON Switzerland-Liechtenstein.
Krishna Premarupa Dasa can be contacted by e-mail via:
With this resolution, we are taking the same decision as ISKCON North America. Thank you for your acknowledgement of this resolution.
We request that local leaders, such as Zonal Supervisors, Chairmans of National Councils and TPs, contact disciples of Lokanatha Swami in their yatra and personally inform them about this decision.
If you have any questions or concerns about this topic, you might contact the Euro RGB EC via its secretary:
Euro.RGB.Secretary@pamho.net
The official statements by the GBC and the ISKCON Ministry of Communication on the case of Lokannatha Swami you find here:
https://iskconnews.org/gbc-releases-decision-on-lokanath-swami/
Hare Krishna
On behalf of the Euro RGB
your servant
Krsna Premarupa Dasa
Euro RGB Chairman
Coming back to Switzerland Krishna Premarupa Dasa, being a professional chef, soon served as the head cook of the Krishna Temple in Zurich. After second initiation in 2004 he started to serve mainly as Pujari, Preacher and Bhakta Leader.
In 2007, he became the Temple President for ISKCON Zurich and from October 2011 he started to serve as the RGB-Secretary for Switzerland. Besides his management responsibilities he is also giving cooking classes, organizing pilgrimages to India and Japa Retreats in Switzerland and also is involved in various Interfaith programs and ISKCON Communication activities.
Krishna Premarupa Dasa`s desire to deeply study the Sastras and to share Srila Prabhupada`s Teachings inspired him to undergo various Teacher Training courses within ISKCON and also within the secular world. As a result of that, he now serves ISKCON Zurich as a Bhakti Sastri Teacher and continues his own study in the form of Bhakti Vaibhava Courses. After successfully completing the GBC College Training in March 2017 he was appointed as Zonal Supervisor for ISKCON Switzerland-Liechtenstein.
Krishna Premarupa Dasa can be contacted by e-mail via:
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Badrinarayan:
"Lokanath was sitting on the couch with this [girl], took his hand, felt her vagina, he moved his hand back after she moved it away, and felt her out as they say, he admitted he was overcome by lusty desires, that’s what he told me.
That is the core event.
That is the core event.
The letters we heard from other gbc are based on inaccuracies, if the body decides he should initiate, if he cannot take the vow himself to not, I will accept it, it will be a relief. I abhor being in this position but let it be based on facts.
May I never have to ask you this again, are you changing what you told me or is it factual? Either you are inaccurate now or then?”
Lokanath: "I am not going back on what you described."
* Lokanath had offered to resign in 2010 after his victim wrote public statements. At this meeting in 2011 he said he changed his mind about resigning, and brought letters of support from GBC members. Badrinarayan claimed these letters minimized Lokanath's abuse.
[PADA: Well they are cleaning house, and that is good to start. He got a few cock roaches out. However, since the entire GBC policy says -- that God's guru successors lineage contains: -- illicit sex with men, women and children; drunks; pill popping drug fiends; machine gun swamis; porno swamis; little girl dating swamis; orchestrators of murders; pedophiles who are buried in samadhis etc. -- they are only just getting started cleaning up.
Since the disciplic succession is spiritual as confirmed by Srila Prabhupada, why is it that the GBC have speculated in their ‘law’ book that in this spiritual line, there can be Gurus who can spiritually fall down? Why would such a Spiritual disciplic succession in the first place even contain members performing such abominable behavior to represent them as their leaders, with them first seemingly inside the spiritual disciplic succession, then hastily removed from the disciplic succession after their falldowns, and yet again as seen in some cases in Iskcon History post 1978, be hastily dumped back in?
What we have to understand is that the eternal disciplic succession is one of successive discipline, not of successive non- realized or partially realized persons, who are merely imitating the fully liberated Guru. Sometimes it is wrongly assumed that unless each link in the unbroken disciplic succession is succeeded one second after the physical demise of the last link, then there will be a break. But this is not the case, as the disciplic succession is not a material chain, but it is a spiritual chain as confirmed above by Srila Prabhupada.
We must understand that the current acarya remains the current link-whether or not he is in his physical body. Srila Prabhupada explains that as long as one is connected to the acarya, even after his physical dissapearance, there is no break.
There are also many other quotes from Srila Prabhupad’s book such as in Chaitanya Charitamrta Madhya Lila CH 24-text 258 & Text 330 purport, Srimad Bhagavatam 1 12.16 purport, Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4, Tx 42, purport, The Nectar of instructions page 58, Also once Srila Prabhupada was asked if a Guru can fall down, and he replied, “Well if Guru is bad, how can he become a Guru”?
[PADA: It is amazing that some of the INDIA ISKCON ICC Bureau people told me that Lokanath touching a little girl's private area is "an India cultural thing" and us mlecchas should not comment. Ummm, us mlecchas know what an adult man touching a little girl's private parts is all about. We knew what that was all about when we were ten years old and eating beef steaks. But the highly cultured folks over in ICC India, even their alleged advanced Vedic scholars, do not know this is not a cultural problem, it is a pedophile problem? And Bhakti Vikas swami is one of the leaders in this group? And he also does not know this is simply bad behavior -- i.e. lusting after a child -- and not a cultural behavior issue?]
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[PADA: Well they are cleaning house, and that is good to start. He got a few cock roaches out. However, since the entire GBC policy says -- that God's guru successors lineage contains: -- illicit sex with men, women and children; drunks; pill popping drug fiends; machine gun swamis; porno swamis; little girl dating swamis; orchestrators of murders; pedophiles who are buried in samadhis etc. -- they are only just getting started cleaning up.
Of course ISKCON India ICC will probably be the last people on earth to realize that pedophiles are not Krishna's guru successors. They are slower than a pack of turtles over there. Of course there are those who think they are a pack of perverts.
Anyway! I told this guy's guru Bhakti Swarupa Damodara that his constant "mystery illness problem" is no mystery at all. BSD was told not to take karma or he would suffer, and he took karma, and he suffers. Why is this a mystery?
And later Swarupa Damodar complained half his body was paralyzed. Well duh, that is because Krishna was giving him the other half to admit he is not another Jesus who can take sins, nor are his homosexual pedophile pals in his guru chain able to either.
But he just went on and on and on promoting his pedophile pals as messiahs. No surprise he was chronically ill. One time he was being called up on the block by the GBC for deviations, but they said "he is so sick there is no need for us to chastise him, he is already being punished." Yup!
And then, after Swarupa Damodar helped the GBC's orchestrating banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing the Lord's Vaishnavas, he was dumped into hell. And his followers will follow him there, it is that simple. You become what you worship.] angel108b@yahoo.com
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In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 13, text 8 purport, after clearly describing the entire disciplic succession with all the names of the Gurus, including his own name, Srila Prabhupada mentions as follows: “This line of disciplic succession from Brahma is spiritual, whereas the genealogical succession from Manu is material……”
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In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 13, text 8 purport, after clearly describing the entire disciplic succession with all the names of the Gurus, including his own name, Srila Prabhupada mentions as follows: “This line of disciplic succession from Brahma is spiritual, whereas the genealogical succession from Manu is material……”
Since the disciplic succession is spiritual as confirmed by Srila Prabhupada, why is it that the GBC have speculated in their ‘law’ book that in this spiritual line, there can be Gurus who can spiritually fall down? Why would such a Spiritual disciplic succession in the first place even contain members performing such abominable behavior to represent them as their leaders, with them first seemingly inside the spiritual disciplic succession, then hastily removed from the disciplic succession after their falldowns, and yet again as seen in some cases in Iskcon History post 1978, be hastily dumped back in?
What we have to understand is that the eternal disciplic succession is one of successive discipline, not of successive non- realized or partially realized persons, who are merely imitating the fully liberated Guru. Sometimes it is wrongly assumed that unless each link in the unbroken disciplic succession is succeeded one second after the physical demise of the last link, then there will be a break. But this is not the case, as the disciplic succession is not a material chain, but it is a spiritual chain as confirmed above by Srila Prabhupada.
We must understand that the current acarya remains the current link-whether or not he is in his physical body. Srila Prabhupada explains that as long as one is connected to the acarya, even after his physical dissapearance, there is no break.
(Srila Prabhupad’s letter to Dayananda 12 /4 /68/ and letter to Vrndavan chandra 19/7/70). The issue is to remain connected. Therefore one must understand that the disciplic succession is about the transmission of knowledge- not the transmission of physically intact bodies. It is not like the Monarchy whereby physical demise also leads to the demise of that person’s reign.
There are also many other quotes from Srila Prabhupad’s book such as in Chaitanya Charitamrta Madhya Lila CH 24-text 258 & Text 330 purport, Srimad Bhagavatam 1 12.16 purport, Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4, Tx 42, purport, The Nectar of instructions page 58, Also once Srila Prabhupada was asked if a Guru can fall down, and he replied, “Well if Guru is bad, how can he become a Guru”?
(The Science of Self-realization chapter 2).
The history of Iskcon Gurus show us that when six out of the original eleven ‘Gurus’ fell down spiritually by 1987, the GBC fearing that soon the number of ‘Gurus’ in ISKCON may be down to zero, quickly ‘came to the rescue by munificently’ adding eighty more. They did this with the excuse that Iskcon needed to satisfy the ever increasing ‘spiritual needs’ of the innocent newcomer devotees who were taken in for their ‘living breathing in oxygen and exhaling carbondioxide Guru product’.
Thus with so many ‘ living ‘Gurus’ added, even if some did fall down spiritually, (and indeed from 1987 till 2012, a further thirty five or more have fallen), it would never look as bad as the earlier group of eleven because there would always be so many more who were still in ‘good standing’.
Thus, by desperately trying to dump conditioned souls or partially realized souls in the pure disciplic succession, the GBC have committed the greatest offence to Lord Krishna, and all the actual Pure self-realized souls who actually rightfully belong in such a spiritual succession. The GBC could have from day one of the physical departure of Srila Prabhupada accommodated such conditioned/partially realized souls to be engaged as an assistant to the fully ever liberated eternal Guru, Srila Prabhupada, in the capacity of agent, instructor, priest, deputy etc.
Thus all devotees in and outside Iskcon would never have to see all the unfortunate unhappy incidents that have taken place in regards to the Guru issue since 1978.
Therefore one should think deeply with a cool headed mind as to what was the reason for the change of standard from the Mahabhagavat Guru standard as experienced in ISKCON upto 1977, and then to find something totally opposite after 1977. Especially when there was no instruction from Srila Prabhupada upto his last breath that such a standard should ever be changed.
Why is it that after 1977,everyone who joined ISKCON were denied the Mahabhagavat standard Guru, but instead many of them got the Homosexual standard Guru, Woman Hunter Guru, Child Molester Guru, and most recently the Bangkok Prostitute Guru? What ‘bad karma’ had the poor devotees who joined after 1977 done in their last life, in contrast to the ‘good karma’ of the devotees who joined pre 1977? That even though the Post 1977 group of devotees joined the same society, chanted the same mantra, performed the same devotional service processes, followed the same 4 regulative principles, read the same Srila Prabhupada’s books, worshipped the same Iskcon Deities, etc, as their pre 1978 counterparts, they still had to receive so many spiritually fallen Gurus?
Why was that standard changed? Some humorous devotees' joke that maybe those who joined Post 1977 had donated cats to the Brahmanas in their previous lives instead of donating cows to the Brahmanas as their Pre 1977 counterparts had done so diligently.
Did Srila Prabhupada want that all newcomers who joined immediately after 1977 should get these above mentioned spiritually fallen ‘Gurus’? By the GBC’s promotion of such “Gurus’ since 1978, they have practically implied to these Post 1977 devotees that Lord Krishna and Srila Prabhupada seem to be punishing them. This is because they had “spaced out” by missing out on Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence available till 1977. Thus because of their being so ‘unfortunate’ by not meeting him physically they have to continuously suffer so many crazy consequences after 1977 until all the way today.
Therefore the whole scenario becomes continuously ludicrous if we support the GBC’s changing the quality of the Guru standard that Srila Prabhupada had set up and was operating in ISKCON till 1977.
Thus after reading the ‘laws’ from the ‘ISKCON LAW BOOK’, we are confident that any sincere, honest devotee will understand that henceforward it should only and officially be known as the “ITSGONE JOKE BOOK” and nothing else. It is indeed a bad joke played by the GBC members that they will have to answer to the court of Yamaraj after leaving this world.
By all the sincere prayers of the honest devotees, may the hypocrisy and double dealings of the GBC soon be vanquished, for Srila Prabhupada once mentioned in his purports in Srimad Bhagavatam, that Krsna comes especially when he sees his devotees feeling very sorry for the irreligious state of affairs going on in society. And now at a time, when irreligious affairs are going on in the very society of devotees, ISKCON, that is supposed to save the materialistic irreligious society from gliding to hell, it is especially sure that the Lord and his associates will rectify such personalities in the guise of GBC members, leaders, Swamis, Gurus etc.
May Lord Krishna and our beloved eternal guru, Srila Prabhupada forgive every member of ISKCON, (both inside and outside members) for allowing the GBC to create this chaos in human society and in the International society for Krishna Consciousness. By their grace, may we all now begin to obey their orders and reemerge out of chaos back to order: namely at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada, the eternal bonafide spiritual master of all the members of his transcendental movement.
Please find below the detailed and complete list of Iskcon fallen Gurus. Present figure is 41 (two more than the figure of 39 mentioned in the first part of our “Itsgone Joke Book Article”). This figure of 41 still does not include those individuals that the GBC were in the past and are at present able to keep under the wraps.
From the First batch of 11 Zonal Acarya ‘Gurus’
1. Jayatirtha Das (Dead)
2. Hansadutta Swami
3. Bhavananda Goswami
4. Ramesvara Swami
5. Bhagavan Das Goswami
6. Kirtanananda Swami (Dead)
7. Harikesa Swami.
8. Satsvarupa Das Goswami
From the Second batch of Eighty or so ‘Gurus’
9. Bhakti Balabh Puri Goswami / Balabhadra Das
10. Bhakti Abhaya Carana Swami (Padambhuja das)
11. Bhaktiprabhava Maharaj
12. Nitai Chand Swami
13. Bhaktivaidurya Madhava – formerly Rohini Kumar Swami
14 Agrani Swami
15. Ganapati Swami
16. Atreya Rsi Das
17. Isvara Swami (Brazil)
18. Jagad Guru Swami
19. Jagadish Goswami
20. Ananda Svarupa Swami
21. Kshiti Mohan (Mexico)
22. Mahabhagavata Swami (EL Salvador)
23. Maharam Das Adhikari
24. Narahari Swami
25. Pancadravida Swami
26. Paramananda Das Adhikari
27. Param Gati swami
28. Paramananda (Gita Nagari)
29. Prthu Das
30. Radha Krsna Swami (Mexico)
31. Ram Govinda Das (Mexico)
32. Rohini Suta Das
33. Rukmini Pati Das (Brazil)
34. Rupanuga Das
35. Somaka Swami
36. Suhotra Swami (Dead)
37. Umapati Swami (China Hongkong)
38. Vaninatha Vasu Das
39. Vegavan dasa
40. Vipramukhya Swami
41. Prabha Visnu Swami (Januaray 2012)
1. Jayatirtha Das (Dead)
2. Hansadutta Swami
3. Bhavananda Goswami
4. Ramesvara Swami
5. Bhagavan Das Goswami
6. Kirtanananda Swami (Dead)
7. Harikesa Swami.
8. Satsvarupa Das Goswami
From the Second batch of Eighty or so ‘Gurus’
9. Bhakti Balabh Puri Goswami / Balabhadra Das
10. Bhakti Abhaya Carana Swami (Padambhuja das)
11. Bhaktiprabhava Maharaj
12. Nitai Chand Swami
13. Bhaktivaidurya Madhava – formerly Rohini Kumar Swami
14 Agrani Swami
15. Ganapati Swami
16. Atreya Rsi Das
17. Isvara Swami (Brazil)
18. Jagad Guru Swami
19. Jagadish Goswami
20. Ananda Svarupa Swami
21. Kshiti Mohan (Mexico)
22. Mahabhagavata Swami (EL Salvador)
23. Maharam Das Adhikari
24. Narahari Swami
25. Pancadravida Swami
26. Paramananda Das Adhikari
27. Param Gati swami
28. Paramananda (Gita Nagari)
29. Prthu Das
30. Radha Krsna Swami (Mexico)
31. Ram Govinda Das (Mexico)
32. Rohini Suta Das
33. Rukmini Pati Das (Brazil)
34. Rupanuga Das
35. Somaka Swami
36. Suhotra Swami (Dead)
37. Umapati Swami (China Hongkong)
38. Vaninatha Vasu Das
39. Vegavan dasa
40. Vipramukhya Swami
41. Prabha Visnu Swami (Januaray 2012)
Thanks TD: Yep, sahajiyas? Right, when Narayan Maharaja said to Jayadvaita in 1978 that all of them are monkeys, but 11 of them can be worshiped as rati keli siddhas, that lost me right out of the gate. We cannot establish that monkeys are the successors to Nitai, that is severe aparadha to Nitai, never mind it sets the stage for mass sexual exploiting of children, which is what I predicted at the time. I said, our children will become lost in this situation, they will eventually revolt and reject, and they did ... yep, at best, sahajiya. Monkey and acharya, hee hee. ys pd
ReplyDeleteLW: Looks like another "previously unknown guru species" has just crawled out of the GBC's sewage lagoon. Previously we had all sorts of suspended gurus, drug gurus, drunk gurus, condom gurus -- now we have "gurus who are banned -- but only in certain regions -- while they are being glorified in big festivals in the areas where they are not being banned ... guru species."
ReplyDeleteAnd this guru species is a crotch grabber of little girls ... which is of course part of the "cultural thing" among gurus in India ... at least according to the ISKCON ICC India. That is your culture over there dudes!
Lord have mercy on the people who get initiated by that species. It seems like every so often another stinky and smelly species emerges from the GBC's guru species sewer pipe ... and we have to get out the incense and air fresheners to be able to breathe after their new species takes birth. Wow ... a new species of guru has just been born. Just hold your nose and hope it doesn't get too close to you. OR YOUR CHILDREN.
SD Dasi: Funny thing when you mention Bhakti Vikas swami followers saying the worship of their ... lusting over little girls gurus ... is part of the bona fide pancaratrika vidhi system. Are they dumb as rocks. Or even more dumb as a rock.
ReplyDeleteThey are working hard as they can ... day and night ... to make Hare Krishna movement into some sort of weird cult horror movie. They remind me of my landlord's problem with termites. They were eating our house ... day and night. We never got a break.
They had to spend $25,000 to fix the termites. What do we have to spend to fix these people? Or can anything be done to fix them ... at all. It is amazing really.
We have to worship their lusty dog guru and ... worship of Prabhupada is the bogus ritviks idea. Where in the Vedas does it say worship of a lusty dog brained person is bona fide. I must have missed that part.
But ... hate to say this ... I do not believe they are really as dumb as a rock ... they know they are making sicko lusty dogs into their gurus ... because that was their whole scheme all along. Get rid of Prabhupada and put lusty dogs in his throne seat.
And as soon as we throw down a bone ... their dog like guru falls off the throne to chew on the bone. And ... when we point that out ... we have to be banished and silenced ... because they are not only lusty dogs ... they bark and ... bite.
Some people would say that the people who worship lusting over little girls gurus ... cannot be repaired. They are a basket case. That may be what we are facing here.