Monday, April 1, 2024

Vedas in the World / Turiya Re-surfaces / Dravida Imbroglio / Bhima Karma Video 04 01 24



Parts of Vedic Culture Around the World.

Recognizing Vedic Culture Around the World, by Stephen Knapp | Stephen Knapp (wordpress.com)

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Turiya re-emerges.

PADA: Oh oh pilgrims! Someone asked why "Sri Dev Turiya Dasa Acharya" is still floating around, acting like nothing has been wrong. And why are some folks -- like Padmanabha Goswami -- and others inviting him over, after he created so many scandals? Good question. If anyone has a good explanation, let me know. Fraud acharyas go to the lower regions, and so do their helpers and enablers. 

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krishna1008: Turiya Das "Soul Sucking Guru" + his Alachua Vyasa Puja

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DRAVIDA IMBROGLIO

PADA: Dravida says that the Samsara [guru puja] prayers apply equally to all of the spiritual masters -- who are one, but many. Hee hee, some of his gurus have been engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, which is "one with" the bona fide acharyas? The first four verses of Samsara Dava apply to the GBC gurus, not the rest of the verses. Where do they come up with this stuff?

As RB says, this is all very convoluted. The first four verses evidently apply to Dravida's illicit sex deviants posing as gurus, not the rest of the verses. Where does Srila Prabhupada say the first four verses of the Samsara prayers apply to conditioned souls, or deviants posing as acharyas? The spiritual master is as pure as Krishna, except when he isn't, which is most of the time, or all the time, with Dravida's gurus.

And Dravida says the reason the first four verse apply to the GBC gurus is, they are promoting Srila Prabhupada's teachings. And evidently, Srila Prabhupada was always teaching -- acharyas are often found -- engaged in illicit sex, taking drugs, drinking Vodka, watching porno, smoking pot, offering LSD to the shalagram, having oral sex with Taxi drivers and etc.

And that is how they are carrying out the teachings of Prabhupada? Yeesh pilgrims! Yeah RB, these temples where Dravida are preaching are just about empty dead ghost towns, and he looks more like a ghost himself every day. Guru is one! And our gurus are doing the hokey pokey dopey all the time, to instruct the common man how NOT to EVER ACT. ys pd

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Bhima Karma Video

PADA: And here is what happens when you grow up in the GBC / Bhakta das / Dayalu Nitai HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati's "International Hare Krishna Movement" / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Bhakta Peter etc. "Saint Radhanath" program. 

Saint Radhanath told me in January 1986, "Kirtanananda is the only pure devotee in ISKCON," and a few months later Sulochana was gone, and I would have been gone without help from the FEDS. No wonder these guys are not happy with PADA, we really exposed their actual agenda. 

Saint Radhanath's program was "hell on earth" for children, according to some of the ex-children themselves. This also explains why Krishna Kant was so upset we had his Saint Radhanath / pedo pooja pals program sued, he wanted us to work with -- the leaders -- like Jayapataka. And that explains why Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Mathura Pati etc. are so upset with PADA, we have not been cooperating with their Auschwitz for kids project. 

And Bhakta Peter told me "I see no problem with Prahlad's promoting Bhakta das / Saint Radhanath." Ok well there is the real problem. Almost everyone else, including the mass of public, sees a problem, a BIG problem, while you guys do not see any problem. Jeez! ys pd   


THE MADNESS OF CONDITIONED SOULS.

“ELEVEN ACHARYAS, ELEVEN ZONES -“…wherein the ISKCON world was carved into eleven distinctive geographical zones. Within each zone, the zonal acharya would be the ultimate authority, like Prabhupada had been to the entire world. This had never been done in the history of Gaudiya-Vaishnavism. Ravindra-Svarupa recalled, ‘The division of ISKCON into private initiating zones, the installation of the exclusive Vyasasana, the ritual elevation of the gurus far above their own Godbrothers, had implicitly established eleven acharyas of the traditional institutional type, each bearing the same relationship to his zone as Srila Prabhupada had borne to the entire movement.” (Zonal Acharyas)

THE NEW GURU EXTRAVAGANZA REACHES FOR NEW HEIGHTS This phenomonena of the focus shifting away from Srila Prabhupada and towards the new successor acharyas spread all over ISKCON. The level of worship offered to the eleven equaled and then exceeded that which Srila Prabhupada had been given. Anything less would not completely blind the members to the obvious hypocrisy. The eleven demanded and eagerly accepted lavish arrangements for their personal service and glorification. While Srila Prabhupada had graciously accepted facilities without much fuss, the eleven competed with each other to showcase their properties, opulences, royal treatment and status, and devoted following. They chose exalted titles as suffixes such as Bhaktipada, Acharyadeva, Vishnupada, Gurupada, Chaitanyapada, Krishnapada, and so on, which was in addition to their preliminary title of “His Divine Grace.”

(1) Nityananda das recalls his visit to the Detroit ISKCON temple presidents’ meetings in 1980: “All but one of the new initiating ISKCON gurus had come to Detroit. After every kirtan or artik, someone specially appointed would dramatically and very loudly sing-song the Jaya Om prayers for all eleven new gurus, repeating three times for each, totaling 33 times of Jaya Om Vishnupada Paramahamsa Paribrajakacharya 108 Sri Srimad His Divine Loving Grace Kirtanananda Swami Maharaja Bhaktipada Ki Jaya! It took half an hour, because after each line, the devotees would whoop and holler, bang the kartals vigorously with a very long, drawn-out “Keeeeeee Jaaayyyya!” I couldn’t take it and left, but this was normal protocol in those days, to glorify our guru Godbrothers as the most highly exalted pure devotees, far more than we ever did for even Srila Prabhupada.” (2) Tamal had relentlessly insisted in 1978-1980 that even his Godbrothers must worship Srila Prabhupada via himself as the current connection to the disciplic succession. He argued that the new paradigm meant he was the current acharya and he was THE only link. Only through me does one come to the Father. (3) Vaishnava das wrote Tamal (Jan. 12, 1987) explaining that when he joined ISKCON in 1980, he and other new devotees had no idea about the status of the new gurus: “...(we) had no idea what were the qualities and character of such a guru. The temple authorities had assured us that he [Ramesvara] was the topmost servant of Prabhupada, an incarnation of Nityananda and confidant to Radharani.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories, 1.543)

2 comments:

  1. PRD: "Like Holocaust survivors, gurukula abuse survivors share a unique experience". Wow.

    I visited the Mayapur (boys) gurukula for a few hours only in 1994 and in 1997, and spoke to students. Didn't take more than that to understand that something was rather wrong there. It must be impossible for anyone in a major leadership position who spent any time at all in Mayapur to be unaware of the problems there.

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  2. LD: Most of these ISKCON people like Bhakta das, Bhakta Peter, Bhakta Prahlad, Mathura Pati, and all the rest of the GBC sleepy sheeples types ... never think there is a problem. When the karmis are rolling their eyeballs in disgust at all the problems.

    It almost seems like some Hare Krishnas are the last people on the planet to realize there is a problem ... with anything. Just chant your rounds prabhu! That means ... they are more illusion than the common ordinary man.

    It is called ... devotional service in the modes of ignorance, or mixed service. It is too bad some of them have taken over web sites and make their modes of ignorance try to represent Krishna. Same as what the GBC does on their sites. Oh! The first four verses of Samsara prayers apply to ... our bogus gurus. NOT!!!

    And the Hitler thing? Not popular then, or now ... and never will be. It is a shame they have made their devotion to Hitler try to appear as devotion to Krishna. Pathetic! We will always have people attempt mixing modes of ignorance with Krishna, because they want to drag Krishna down to their level. Krishna is with us! No, He isn't.

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