Krishna With Flute
Art by PADA
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And the GBC leader's cabal -- who we originally thought were maybe only lousy, rotten and bad people, perhaps at worse lusty dogs -- artificially seeking the post of being glorified as saintly gurus -- would then be transformed into being seen as much worse than incompetent motivated fools but now as -- diabolical Satanic beings, who would torture an elderly saint, sadhu and pure devotee of God -- with poison.
It would change the history of the religion, and ultimately the history of the world -- and it would not be possible for me to put the genie back into the bottle once released. So I was hesitating for some time, wondering what would be the best way forward. Eventually, I decided to go forward no matter what, because it is too important of an issue to be kept a secret.
Needless to say, not everyone was happy with that decision. Even some of the so-called ritviks like the IRM's Krishna Kant, Kamsahanta and others told me not to release the issue because "we will lose our buildings." I never understood why I should protect "our buildings" where they are promoting the worship of debauchees and even pedophiles as God's successors. Sorry IRM folks, that is your building, your program, and you own it, but it is not mine!
Meanwhile, I was thinking -- at any moment -- I could go to sleep and not wake up, so I had to bring this out before I am not here myself. The person who gave me the tape said I had to do it -- because "no one else will." Anyway, we made a sign "I am being poisoned" and marched in front of the Rathayatra parade, and that was it, the cat was out of the bag. But yeah, the IRM folks never forgave me for doing that, and they still say on their site they "defeated PADA" on this issue. Ummm, nope.
“WHY DID SRILA PRABHUPADA NOT SAY MUCH ABOUT BEING POISONED?
- By Narasimha das
“My theory has always been this: If he had called out the poisoners, it would have caused turmoil and the movement’s forward momentum would have been lost. The "fanblade-still-turning effect" would have been lost and probably few would have joined after 1977.
A likely scenario: one faction would have believed Srila Prabhupada; they would have immediately attacked the GBC in India with machetes and in the US with guns. Another faction, possibly larger, would have defended Tamal and cohorts, who would create further offenses claiming Srila Prabhupada was mistaken or demented, as they now openly claim when faced with Srila Prabhupada's words on this topic.
PADA: There would have been a lot of chaos, that is for sure. It also does seem like the poisoners would have destroyed all copies of the "poison tapes," but for some reason [Krishna wanted these tapes to come into my hands?] they did not. And that means, the audio tapes still existed -- and were then able to be transferred to me in 1997.
Perhaps Srila Prabhupada knew the poison issue would surface eventually, and Krishna protected a copy of the tape so that I would get it later. I did start praying to get a copy of the tape around 1990 and was worried I would never get it. I believe Krishna did want the issue to surface eventually, and He made an arrangement.
On the other hand, a number of devotees -- like Adhridharan -- subsequently told me they knew about the poison issue at the time in 1977, but they opted to remain silent. Maybe Prabhupada was relying on them to blow the whistle? But they never did. And they did not appreciate my efforts to bring it out later.
Srila Prabhupada had asked for all devotees to come to Vrindaban, but they were not told and no one came. He was likely thinking the movement had already been hijacked.
PADA: Good point, he is already thinking the movement has been hijacked, probably true analysis. He had already mentioned the sinister movement in his movement.
Srila Prabhupada had repeatedly said that going on parikrama would cure him. But they didn't let him go. So, he saw those near him were controlling the situation, and the troops were scattered around the world and working under false authorities.
There are many possible reasons why he didn't say or do more regarding both initiations and being poisoned: (1) He wanted to spend his last days in the mood of a paramahamsa, not chastising neophytes and rascals.
(2) He wanted the momentum he had created in ISKCON to continue for some time more.
(3) He wanted the cheaters to self-expose themselves.
(4) He wanted more soul searching among his real disciples.
PADA: There you have it. The sincere disciples should have challenged the bogus gurus right out of the gate -- as I did. But many wanted to go along to get along, and they conspired with the GBC gurus. Hrdayananda said that he did not want to be a guru, but Praghosa insisted that he do it.
Satsvarupa said he did not want to be a guru, but Brahmananda lead him into a Vyasa seat. Ramesvara said he wanted to resign, but his guru God brothers would not allow that, and so on. So there were many rank and file who sort of acted as enforcers and enablers for the false gurus.
Even nowadays we have people like Mathura Pati's "senior devotee advisor Bhakta das" -- a Thai bar girl hopping / designer drugs arrested / child porn arrested / shiksha guru and spokesman for their "Prabhupada" society -- crying that we are not helping them in promoting Saint Radhantha, a kingpin leader of the molester messiah's camp, poisoner camp, and a person who helps bury pedophiles in samadhis. PADA is not helping promote the worship of the pedo-meister guru sampradaya, boo hoo!
And when we were protesting the molesting, poison, book changes and who knows what else, and so on, Bhakta das was hanging out partying with Thai bar girls instead of helping us. In other words there are still people out there ignoring the issues, or worse, defending the bogus guru's process.
And thus there are still a lot of people compromised with the GBC's guru process, and they are still promoting it now. So when Prabhupada left -- it was a test to see if the sincere disciples would counter a bunch of lusty dogs sitting in his seat, the seat of the King, but many started to promote worshiping the lusty dogs sitting in the King's seat.
They were offered a share of Judas' gold, and they took it to benefit themselves and not the society. In short, they were tested and they failed the test. And naturally, many of them were thus not happy when we brought out the poison tapes, because it made them look compromised with Judas all that time. There are still people out there saying we are discussing "stools" because we exposed them as compromised with this process.
(5) He wanted to delay until later when it would be much easier to see that the GBC had gone rogue.
(6) He wanted to leave sooner, seeing the situation of intrigue and deceit.
(7) He was hearing and heeding the call of Krishna and another mission.
(8)This lila is like the crucification of Christ and ultimately meant for his glorification and his mission. It is also possible that behind Tamal and his cohorts was some outside agency that feared Srila Prabhupada and the Hare Krishna movement’s rising power.
The New York and London Rathayatras were powerful eye-opening demonstrations that riled the ruling powers. Srila Prabhupada did say that the planet was controlled by powerful rakshasas, so this is not just a silly idea.”
WARY OR CONSIDERATE? -About Srila Prabhupada’s vagueness, ambiguity, and refusal to name his informant or poisoner, and his unwillingness to disclose anything more, he was either: (1) wary that his poisoners would cause disruption to his mission if he named them, or (2) concerned they would cease their all- redeeming service if he exposed them. Srila Prabhupada put his poisoners’ service, by which they were earning immeasurable spiritual benefit, even above his own physical well-being.
The pure devotee accepted poison from those who were rendering great service to the movement. The poisoners were spreading the movement, if only to use it for themselves. Srila Prabhupada understood that if exposed, the poisoners would dispute the fact anyway, and that unexposed they would continue to expand the movement even though they had private ambitions to sit on his seat.
Srila Prabhupada always encouraged everyone to keep chanting and serving Krishna, in any situation and regardless of motives, which would eventually and hopefully become purified of selfishness.
Partrikananda das reported in 1998 that Srila Prabhupada told Bhagatji that his disciples were not very advanced and he would not be surprised if they tried to do him great physical harm. Srila Prabhupada knew what was going on: "One who executes Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission must be considered eternally liberated. He is a transcendental person and does not belong to this material world. Such a devotee, engaging in the deliverance of the total population, is as magnanimous as Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Himself. [...] because his heart is always filled with compassion for all conditioned souls." (CC Mad 15.163)” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.648)
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“ALL RIGHT, LET ME DRINK (POISON)” - “Sadhu is titiksava, tolerates all kinds of miserable conditions. He is sadhu. Because this is a place of miserable condition. A sadhu learns how to tolerate [...] never disturbed. Yasmin sthito gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate.
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“ALL RIGHT, LET ME DRINK (POISON)” - “Sadhu is titiksava, tolerates all kinds of miserable conditions. He is sadhu. Because this is a place of miserable condition. A sadhu learns how to tolerate [...] never disturbed. Yasmin sthito gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate.
A sadhu, who has got the shelter of Krishna, if he is placed in the severest type of dangerous condition, he is never disturbed. Just like Prahlada Maharaja, his father was putting him in so many dangerous conditions, even he was supplying with poison. He knew that “My father has given me poison to drink. All right, let me drink.
If Krishna likes, He will save me. I am now put into such dangerous position. I have to drink. Father is giving poison. Who can check?” And such a big powerful Hiranyakasipu. The mother cried, requested... He forced the mother, Prahlada’s mother, “Give your son this poison.” So she begged so much, but he was a rascal demon. “No, you must give.” So the mother knew, the son knew that the rascal father is giving this poison. What can he do, a small child? “All right, let me drink.” Gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate. He is not agitating. “All right, if Krishna likes, I will live.”
This is the position of sadhu. He is not disturbed. [...] In all circumstances, he is tolerant. [...] Sadhu does not become disturbed. Titiksavah. At the same time, karunikah. He is himself disturbed, but he is merciful to others. Just like Jesus Christ. He is being crucified, and still he is merciful: “God, these people do not know what they are doing. Please excuse them.” This is sadhu.
He is personally being disturbed by the demons, but still, he is merciful to the general people. They are suffering for want of Krishna consciousness. So even up to the point of death, he is trying to preach Krishna consciousness. “Let the people be benefited. Eh, what is this material body? Even if I am killed, I am not killed. This body is killed, that’s all.” This is sadhu. [...] In one side he is tolerant, and other side, merciful.” (SPLecture July 18, 1973)
SRILA PRABHUPADA TOLERATED HIS POISONERS OUT OF COMPASSION- It is hard to understand on the basis of our experiences amongst the conditioned souls in this cruel, material world, but Srila Prabhupada tolerated his poisoners because of his great compassion for them. They were doing some service, motivated as it may have been, and he considered that more important than his own physical welfare.
A pure devotee will not speak in his own defense nor ask anything for himself, not even his own life. A remarkable feature of Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance pastimes is how he did not move to save himself nor to name or accuse his poisoners. Similarly, Christ on the cross prayed, “Forgive them, O Lord, for they know not what they do.” This is the nature of a bona fide saint like Srila Prabhupada, yet some expect Srila Prabhupada to behave like them- defend and fight.
Haridas Thakur, still alive after being beaten mercilessly, said to his executioners, “If my being alive for even one minute inconveniences you, then I will die immediately.” And he became unconscious, apparently dead, to be thrown into the Ganges. Jesus Christ also did not protest when crucified, even though he had the power to escape. We believe Srila Prabhupada knew who his poisoners were, but did not care about himself, nor want to inconvenience the poisoners who also were giving him service. Srila Prabhupada was reconciled to his departure and to being poisoned, making the poisoning known in his last days so the truth be known. It was a divine plan.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.648)
PADA: Yep, the whole issue is basically a sort of baffling mystery. And perhaps one of the most baffling parts of the mystery for me is, how did I get the job of releasing the story? God works in mysterious ways, no question, and I can verify that! Anyway the issue is out, and we are all going to have to deal with it now. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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ÅrÄ«-rÄmadÄsa Ära, gadÄdhara dÄsacaitanya-gosÄƱira bhakta rahe tÄį¹
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Synonyms
ÅrÄ«-rÄmadÄsa — ÅrÄ« RÄmadÄsa; Ära — and; gadÄdhara dÄsa — GadÄdhara dÄsa; caitanya-gosÄƱira — of Lord ÅrÄ« Caitanya MahÄprabhu; bhakta — devotees; rahe — stay; tÄį¹ ra pÄÅa — with Him.
Translation
Two devotees of Lord Caitanya named ÅrÄ« RÄmadÄsa and GadÄdhara dÄsa always lived with ÅrÄ« VÄ«rabhadra GosÄƱi.
Purport
ÅrÄ« RÄmadÄsa, later known as AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura, was one of the twelve gopÄlas, or cowherd boyfriends, of ÅrÄ« NityÄnanda Prabhu. The Gaura-gaį¹oddeÅa-dÄ«pikÄ verse 126, states that ÅrÄ« RÄmadÄsa was formerly ÅrÄ«dÄmÄ. In the Bhakti-ratnÄkara Chapter Four, there is a description of ÅrÄ«la AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura. By the order of ÅrÄ« NityÄnanda Prabhu, AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura became a great ÄcÄrya and preacher of the Caitanya cult of devotional service. He was a very influential personality, and nondevotees were very much afraid of him. Empowered by ÅrÄ« NityÄnanda Prabhu, he was always in ecstasy and was extremely kind to all fallen souls. It is said that if he offered obeisances to any stone other than a ÅÄlagrÄma-ÅilÄ, it would immediately fracture.
Ten miles southwest of the railway station CÄį¹
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gÄ on the narrow gauge railway line from Howrah, in Calcutta, to ÄmtÄ, a village in the Hugli district, is a small town named KhÄnÄkÅ«la-kį¹į¹£į¹anagara, where the temple of AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura is situated. During the rainy season, when this area is inundated with water, people must go there by another line, which is now called the southeastern railway. On this line there is a station named KolÄghÄį¹a, from which one has to go by steamer to RÄį¹Ä«caka. Seven and a half miles north of RÄį¹Ä«caka is KhÄnÄkÅ«la. The temple of AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura is situated in Kį¹į¹£į¹anagara, which is near the kÅ«la (bank) of the KhÄnÄ (DvÄrakeÅvara River); therefore this place is celebrated as KhÄnÄkÅ«la-kį¹į¹£į¹anagara. Outside of the temple is a bakula tree. This place is known as Siddha-bakula-kuƱja. It is said that when AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura came there, he sat down under this tree.
In KhÄnÄkÅ«la-kį¹į¹£į¹anagara there is a big fair held every year in the month of Caitra (March-April) on the Kį¹į¹£į¹a-saptamÄ«, the seventh day of the dark moon. Many hundreds and thousands of people gather for this festival. The temple where AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura worshiped has a very old history. The Deity in the temple is known as GopÄ«nÄtha. There are many sevaita families living near the temple. It is said that AbhirÄma į¹¬hÄkura had a whip and that whoever he touched with it would immediately become an elevated devotee of Kį¹į¹£į¹a. Among his many disciples, ÅrÄ«mÄn ÅrÄ«nivÄsa ÄcÄrya was the most famous and the most dear, but it is doubtful that he was his initiated disciple.”
[ÅrÄ« Caitanya-caritÄmį¹ta » Ädi-lÄ«lÄ 11.13 | 1973 Edition. all Synonyms, Translation and Purport by his Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada]
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