*** Bhakti Vikas Swami On Child Abuse.
*** Starts out by glorifying a predator.
*** His original video has been deleted.
*** CAN SOMEONE SEND ME THE TRANSCRIPT
OF THE ORIGINAL?
PADA: Thanks prabhu, yes BVKS does look rather ghostly ghoulish, and he seems to be bewildered and grasping at straws to justify their -- mass child abuse, worshiping pedophiles as acharyas, burying pedophiles in samadhis etc. -- regime -- and so on and so forth.
And anyone who opposes their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's project, is going against shastra, and might become a ghost? Grasping at straws is really being overly kind to him. He is literally drowning in his own self made ocean of mass mistreatment of children, women, devotees, cows and all the rest. And yeah prabhu, when we tried to unstuck the ISKCON toilet full of poop, he helped have us removed, so he could drown ISKCON in an ocean of poop.
And he already looks like a ghost? Yeah prabhu. His program is the "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs project," and he is one of the enforcers. They are all starting to look like ghosts.
He may lose disciples, no kidding, some of them wrote to me how disgusted they are with their BVKS pedo messiah's project's orchestrator, band leader, cheer leader, hand maiden, supporter, defender, shastric advisor, legal counsel, promoter, and overall jack booted assistant thug for the violence against children and Auschwitz for kids program. He is trying to defend the indefensible, and that will not work indefinitely. Yeah, he should be apologizing now, and he will be forced to later -- when he goes to Yamaraja -- if he does not do so here. ys pd
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LAUGHING IS THE WRONG RESPONSEPADA: Very funny indeed prabhu! First of all, what is funny about any of this? Children are being mass mistreated, they are taking their lives, my friends are getting taken out, and that is funny for-- whom? Yeah, Mathura Pati's pal Prahlad was discussing me on a video and he was laughing and joking the whole time.
For you to say "that is funny prabhu" is why we have had to go to the karmi law enforcement, media and so on for help, the joker sector would not help. The karmis are with me, they don't think any of this is fun or funny. I have had so many devotees laugh and joke when I report serious issues, and that is why I had to use the karmis as my main helpers.
I am not judging anything personally, so many devotees give me the cheeze cake "that is funny prabhu" smile when I reported things to them, they all think it is a comedy show and have all along. It is not funny for the victims. One of them just wrote me [I have heard from maybe thousands] that they are STILL having PTSD nightmares still -- and they have trouble functioning in the world.
And that is time to bring on the comedy hour show? Yeah I take issue with it because that has been the main "devotee" response I get all the time, oh it is that crazy fool blabbing again, it is all a comedy show. And some of my other friends told me the same thing, when Mathura Pati types talk about me, they laugh and joke, they think this is all comedy show funny. That is not why we expose him personally, we expose not only him -- but all the laughing jokers, because they are all the same people who enabled all this.
They laughed, while others suffered, and that means -- they have to be exposed -- and many people are helping me expose them -- because they are mortified by all this and they understand that "that is funny prabhu" is the wrong response to this issue, full time and all the time, the wrong response.
I am quick to be offended? I am not offended at all. I am against the people who joke about mass child mistreatment and having people who oppose it taken out, no offense involved, that is just called plain following dharma. Has nothing to do with offense or non offense to me personally. Laughing at the suffering of others is called demoniac in the Vedic shastras, this idea is trillions of years old, it has nothing to do with me or my ideas made in recent times.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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PADA The IRM are not really attacking JPS fully, for example they are still saying that JPS whispers on the November tape are "PADA's bogus theories." They are still covering for him.
And they are still saying we should not have addressed JPS' role in the child mistreatment, we were wrong to address that issue, so the children would go on suffering, and even losing their lives. In other words, they were compromised then and still are now.
And they still have not explained why it was a big mistake for me to get the BBTI rights, and I should not antagonize JPS with the BBTI lawsuit, and so on. They have never explained any of this. And neither they ever told me they think it was a mistake to send me to the Caribbean under JPS care. They have never officially told me that their being in bed with JPS was wrong, and I did the right thing by rejecting their plans.
In other words, it looks like they are still upset I am not sitting in the Caribbean under JPS care right now. They never told me anything else. Neither anyone ever tells me why I should have gone off to the Caribbean under the IRM plan. They didn't change any of this, ever, by telling me their plan is -- wrong. They just keep the same complaints they made in 1999 on their sites now, meanwhile many people have agreed with me, their Caribbean plan was meant ... to get rid of me.
So they are against Jayapataka, and they are against the people who are against Jayapataka, so that is called hypocrisy, as many children victims told me they are. I cannot even print herein what some victims have said about these IRM folks JPS compromisers. However, one victim told me, they wanted to get rid of you so they could get rid of us ... ys pd
PADA: Apparently, the BVKS video has disappeared. But BVKS met me in person maybe ten years ago and he said "your writings are famous all over the ISKCON world." So yeah, he cannot say he did not know about the issue of child mistreatment, he knew -- and he told me he knew. I also told him -- my life has been in peril, and he just chuckled. Big hah hah for these guys, when people like local law enforcement, the FEDS, Dr. Stilson Judah, media folks, my family etc. were mortified that I was challenging the BVKS process. They knew that I was in fact in peril. ys pd
PADA: Apparently, the BVKS video has disappeared. But BVKS met me in person maybe ten years ago and he said "your writings are famous all over the ISKCON world." So yeah, he cannot say he did not know about the issue of child mistreatment, he knew -- and he told me he knew. I also told him -- my life has been in peril, and he just chuckled. Big hah hah for these guys, when people like local law enforcement, the FEDS, Dr. Stilson Judah, media folks, my family etc. were mortified that I was challenging the BVKS process. They knew that I was in fact in peril. ys pd
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DD: It is because there is a serious void where fundamental ethics/morals/values should be.
It's so evident that it can make one question the whole philosophy as presented to us itself. If this is the Kali-Yuga (the most degraded age no matter what anyone does) and our primary goal is to escape the material world, then why be surprised when devotees don't give the slightest fuck about any issue, whether it is child abuse or climate change. that doesn't concern their own salvation directly
It is also because Prabhupada's immediate successors decided that ethics and morals and laws didn't apply to them, setting an example that a lot of devotees still follow today, even if unconsciously. It's real easy to ignore the serious issues and the world burning around you when you're on the transcendental platform with your transcendental ethics.
I used to think my diksa-guru and the community that surrounds him were the most enlightened people in the universe. But I haven't heard a peep from any of them about sexual abuse. In fact, when two of them hosted their fabulous #1 in the world Hare Krishna podcast a few weeks ago about the Peacock New Vrindavan documentary, their focus was not the abuse, but how much they didn't want their students at Princeton to watch the documentary. They then proceeded to have a geek-out session about how cool and exotic New Vrindavan seemed to them back in the day.
Not a single serious word about the trail of corpses and sexually abused children. One of the podcast hosts is the Hindu chaplain at Princeton and someone who should know a lot better than he does...
I remember when I was a very young and naive bhakta taking a field trip with some of the devotees from the Detroit temple. I was at the University of Michigan at the time in the film program and decided to bring a camera to make a documentary of the visit. Radhanath Swami was there ( I didn't really know who he was at that point, other than people kept throwing themselves at his feet) and he kept talking to this one gentleman, who I would later discover was one of the primary sexual abusers of children at NV back in the 1980's. I remember at one point taking some footage of the temple room and my camera, with no specific intention, capturing RNS and this individual talking to each other. They immediately froze when they saw they were on camera, like they knew they were doing something wrong and that shouldn't be documented, but when they saw it was just a nobody bhakta, they relaxed.
This same person who was the child abuser then gave a SB class where he demanded that we become slaves to Krishna. The devotee from Detroit who hosted the trip had to pull me aside after the lecture and make sure I was okay with that language. I didn't know what to think. In hindsight, I should've have run away from the devotees as fast as possible and never looked back...
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DD: It is because there is a serious void where fundamental ethics/morals/values should be.
It's so evident that it can make one question the whole philosophy as presented to us itself. If this is the Kali-Yuga (the most degraded age no matter what anyone does) and our primary goal is to escape the material world, then why be surprised when devotees don't give the slightest fuck about any issue, whether it is child abuse or climate change. that doesn't concern their own salvation directly
It is also because Prabhupada's immediate successors decided that ethics and morals and laws didn't apply to them, setting an example that a lot of devotees still follow today, even if unconsciously. It's real easy to ignore the serious issues and the world burning around you when you're on the transcendental platform with your transcendental ethics.
I used to think my diksa-guru and the community that surrounds him were the most enlightened people in the universe. But I haven't heard a peep from any of them about sexual abuse. In fact, when two of them hosted their fabulous #1 in the world Hare Krishna podcast a few weeks ago about the Peacock New Vrindavan documentary, their focus was not the abuse, but how much they didn't want their students at Princeton to watch the documentary. They then proceeded to have a geek-out session about how cool and exotic New Vrindavan seemed to them back in the day.
Not a single serious word about the trail of corpses and sexually abused children. One of the podcast hosts is the Hindu chaplain at Princeton and someone who should know a lot better than he does...
I remember when I was a very young and naive bhakta taking a field trip with some of the devotees from the Detroit temple. I was at the University of Michigan at the time in the film program and decided to bring a camera to make a documentary of the visit. Radhanath Swami was there ( I didn't really know who he was at that point, other than people kept throwing themselves at his feet) and he kept talking to this one gentleman, who I would later discover was one of the primary sexual abusers of children at NV back in the 1980's. I remember at one point taking some footage of the temple room and my camera, with no specific intention, capturing RNS and this individual talking to each other. They immediately froze when they saw they were on camera, like they knew they were doing something wrong and that shouldn't be documented, but when they saw it was just a nobody bhakta, they relaxed.
This same person who was the child abuser then gave a SB class where he demanded that we become slaves to Krishna. The devotee from Detroit who hosted the trip had to pull me aside after the lecture and make sure I was okay with that language. I didn't know what to think. In hindsight, I should've have run away from the devotees as fast as possible and never looked back...
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SD: TWO POINTS TO ADD FOR BACKGROUND:
1. I was born into ISKCON in 1978. I have heard leaders callously saying a child was raped or abused in some other way (neglectd, beaten to a pulp, arm broken, etc), because it was their karma. No sympathy. Even going so far as to say they should be thankful because they are burning off karma. So this bit about karma being your teacher is triggering to many of the second generation devotees raised in the Hare Krishna movement.
One gurukuli woman wrote:
"The pain you teachers and GBC put me threw……the isolation’s, segregating me from my parents and family……all the times i was molested and then finally raped YOU the devotees and your PHILOSOPHY said it was my fault my karma….at the age of 8 or nine my gurukula teacher told me to thank krsna that this man violated me now and not later, that i was paying for my karma, i must have done the same in my past life to a child and now i must accept what happened as krishnas mercy, tell that to my badly swollen 9 year old hairless vagina!"
One gurukuli man even titled his book of childhood abuse at the hands of Hare Krishnas as "My Karma My Fault":
https://www.amazon.com/My-Karma-Fault.../dp/B00HM8I4LU
2. Mahatma's wife was initiated by Dhanurdhara and still worships him as her guru. Mahatma goes with her on parikaramas and other programs where Dhanurdhara leads the group as a spiritual authority.
https://iskconleaders.com/jahnava-mataji/
In one abuse case, Mahatma was appointed as "liaison" and misused his position to defend the abuser, his good friend.
If Mahatma has ever supported a victim, I would love to hear about it.
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“CHAPTER 93: SRILA PRABHUPADA DISOBEYED -“If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life. He cannot be siksha -guru or anything else. He is finished, immediately.” (SPConv July 4, 1974)
1. I was born into ISKCON in 1978. I have heard leaders callously saying a child was raped or abused in some other way (neglectd, beaten to a pulp, arm broken, etc), because it was their karma. No sympathy. Even going so far as to say they should be thankful because they are burning off karma. So this bit about karma being your teacher is triggering to many of the second generation devotees raised in the Hare Krishna movement.
One gurukuli woman wrote:
"The pain you teachers and GBC put me threw……the isolation’s, segregating me from my parents and family……all the times i was molested and then finally raped YOU the devotees and your PHILOSOPHY said it was my fault my karma….at the age of 8 or nine my gurukula teacher told me to thank krsna that this man violated me now and not later, that i was paying for my karma, i must have done the same in my past life to a child and now i must accept what happened as krishnas mercy, tell that to my badly swollen 9 year old hairless vagina!"
One gurukuli man even titled his book of childhood abuse at the hands of Hare Krishnas as "My Karma My Fault":
https://www.amazon.com/My-Karma-Fault.../dp/B00HM8I4LU
2. Mahatma's wife was initiated by Dhanurdhara and still worships him as her guru. Mahatma goes with her on parikaramas and other programs where Dhanurdhara leads the group as a spiritual authority.
https://iskconleaders.com/jahnava-mataji/
In one abuse case, Mahatma was appointed as "liaison" and misused his position to defend the abuser, his good friend.
If Mahatma has ever supported a victim, I would love to hear about it.
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“CHAPTER 93: SRILA PRABHUPADA DISOBEYED -“If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life. He cannot be siksha -guru or anything else. He is finished, immediately.” (SPConv July 4, 1974)
After Srila Prabhupada’s physical departure, ISKCON underwent decades of internal turmoil and thousands upon thousands of devotees suffered greatly, most leaving the institution. This occurred because ISKCON leadership grossly disobeyed Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. Their deviant actions were great offenses to the true Acharya Srila Prabhupada, and the movement endured great confusion and pain.
Because of a tyrannical administration allowing no open discussions, ISKCON members have been unable to properly study Srila Prabhupada’s teachings, and have been implicated in the institutional disobediance. The siddhanta is clearly understood by those who will ardently study and openly discuss Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, and even if there is disagreement, like-minded parties will galvanize into free, open, and separate communities.
The leaders preyed on the gullibility and naiveness of the devotees by presenting the false message that Srila Prabhupada was dead and gone, thus requiring new gurus, regardless of their authority or qualification. The remedy to this aberration is to again obey Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, understood directly from his books, lectures, talks, and letters.
“From now on unless I order you do something change or in addition, go on with the usual standard way. You manufacture ideas and then I have to waste my time. I have given you everything already, there is no need for you to add anything or change anything. Why you are asking these things? Who has given you such freedom?” (SPL Dhruvananda Jan. 4, 1973)
SRILA PRABHUPADA FROM SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM 4.28.48-51
"Whenever an acharya comes, following the superior orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His representative, he establishes the principles of religion, as enunciated in Bhagavad- gita. Religion means abiding by the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Religious principles begin from the time one surrenders to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
It is the acharya's duty to spread a bona fide religious system and induce everyone to bow down before the Supreme Lord. One executes the religious principles by rendering devotional service, specifically the nine items like hearing, chanting and remembering. Unfortunately, when the acharya disappears, rogues and nondevotees take advantage and immediately begin to introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis, philanthropists, welfare workers and so on [...] The acharya, the authorized representative of the Supreme Lord, establishes these principles, but when he disappears, things once again become disordered.
The perfect disciples of the acharya try to relieve the situation by sincerely following the instructions of the spiritual master [...] Similarly, a devoted disciple of the spiritual master would rather die with the spiritual master than fail to execute the spiritual master's mission.
As the Supreme Personality of Godhead comes down upon this earth to re-establish the principles of religion, so His representative, the spiritual master, also comes to re-establish religious principles. It is the duty of the disciples to take charge of the mission of the spiritual master and execute it properly. Otherwise the disciple should decide to die along with the spiritual master. In other words, to execute the will of the spiritual master, the disciple should be prepared to lay down his life and abandon all personal considerations [...]
When one becomes serious to follow the mission of the spiritual master, his resolution is tantamount to seeing the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As explained before, this means meeting the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the instruction of the spiritual master. This is technically called vani-seva. Srila Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakura states in his Bhagavad-gita commentary on the verse vyavasayatmika buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana that one should serve the words of the spiritual master. The disciple must stick to whatever the spiritual master orders. Simply by following on that line, one sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead." (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories, 1.558)
M Dasi: I don't care if I get a hundred nasty e-mails or lose disciples. Of course. All BVKS ever cares about ... his adult life ... defending his pedophile guru friend's club ... who bans us.
ReplyDeleteHello sleeping souls! It is a pedophile guru cult. That is all it is ... and all it ever will be ... until all of them are either removed or departed by natural causes.
We have had Saint Tutu pada with his read cape, red convertible car ... and all the time the "boy toys." And that is BVKS' "Vishnupada" no less. They have no respect for Vishnu, or even ... for the intelligence of us common man.
The common man said ... they are making a Gay-vindas restaurant. Even the common man sees these people are giant frauds and no small amount of perverts.
When will they become honest? Probably never. They would have to admit to making ten billion sins they made against all that is holy of man and God. They are the most obnoxious regions of the universe, manifested ... before us here. We cannot oppose child molesting ... or else, we are not following shastra? Makes me want to scream.
When will they quit? Never, because then they would have to admit they are criminals who destroyed thousands and thousands and thousands of devotee's lives, especially the children. Then they could be charged as enablers or accessories legally.