Mistreating Devotees / Ananta Vasudeva 04 18 24

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Mistreating Vaishnava Women and Children (and Brahmanas and cows).

PADA: Srila Prabhupada said anyone who physically harms a Vaishnava has to suffer going into the stone rollers on Yamaraja's planets, he never said this would not apply to any race or gender. It is forbidden to physically harm any Vaishnava, and anyone who does so is going to be in for a very, very bad future. 

All Vaishnavas should be protected. Of course, at New Vrndavana -- women, children, brahmanas -- and even cows -- were not protected, and that is why most devotees avoided going there even in its hey day -- and it is now basically a forgotten ghost town. 

I went there once in 1980 and stayed only for a few hours. The vibe was very weird. People were telling me what a great job they had done having Jadurani beaten up there. That was a giant red flag right out of the gate. You are going into the stone rollers at Yamaraja's, and you are proud of that? 

Sorry, there was never any license to mistreat anyone, anywhere, at any time, much less women and children, especially Vaishnavas, and those of us who were a little respectful to others knew that even before we were devotees. Srila Prabhupada was very clear on this, mistreating Vaishnavas [or Vaishnavis or children, or elders and cows] will not end well for the aggressors. 

Neither will a community that allows that last for long, which is why New Vrndavana disintegrated to almost none of its former glory. Whereas programs that follow the process are growing. 

In sum, none of these physical violence acts against devotees was ever authorized, and most of us did not ever think it was. And in fact, we were appalled that anyone would even think this type behavior is authorized in a society of God lovers.     

ys pd

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Ananta Vasudeva Prabhu (the acarya of the Gaudiya Mission) called for me and

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Srila Bhakti Raksak Sridhar Maharaj: Some years after our Guru Maharaja had left, Ananta Vasudeva Prabhu (the acarya of the Gaudiya Mission) called for me and said, "Prabhupada has done many things which cannot be supported according to the scriptures. Where is your name 'Sridhara' found in the scripture? Only ten names of sannyasis we find – Puri, Giri, Bharati etc. – all these are mentioned in the scriptures."

I told him, "You published a book, Gaudiya Kanthahara before I joined the matha, and in there, one hundred and eight names of sannyasis are mentioned. You have given reference to Ananta-samhita."

Ananta Vasudeva: "Oh, that is all false, concoction. We suggested these names and Sachin Pandita composed the sloka and has given this some Sanskrit characteristic. We suggested the name of Ananta-samhita. It is a fictitious book. There is no Ananta-samhita."

"That does not matter."

"It is all false, so we can't follow strictly the principles of Prabhupada."

Then I gave him this answer, "In the Vedas and Upanisads it is seen that the first consideration is the rsi. What the rsis of the ancient times saw and felt in their hearts, they recorded, and that is Vedas and Upanisads. If we consider that the primary conception of full-fledged theism is given in the Srimad Bhagavatam and that It is the natural fruit of the Vedas, Puranas etc, then those persons who preach that full-fledged theism, who have found the expression within their heart – anything they add to that is greater sastra than the Vedas and Upanisads.

PADA: Sridhara could not control his Frankenstein monster acharyas after he enabled them to be in that post. They became renegades and did not want to listen to him anymore. 

And when Sridhara Maharaja says that Srila Prabhupada's idea that we originated with Krishna "is not found in shastra," he forgot that when a pure devotee speaks, that is shastra. Shastra is a record of the words of pure devotees, of course they did not accept that Srila Prabhupada is a pure devotee.

The present acaryas do not have a lesser position than the former rsis – they have a greater position. They have to give to the public a higher conception of theism. We may think of them to be modern, but at the same time if we consider what Mahaprabhu gave and what the Bhagavatam has given as a more developed condition of theism than what the Upanisads and Vedas have given in previous days – if we realize this, than we must give the position of importance to the acarya of full-fledged theism. Otherwise we are all hypocrites.

PADA: Right, so declaring that Ananta Vasudeva is an acharya is a mistake, and supporting the GBC's 11 as acharyas is another mistake. Sridhara Maharaja gave acharya status to conditioned souls -- and then the mission suffered. For that matter, Ananta Vasudeva and the 11 also suffered from taking karma, making offenses and so on. 

One who is in the service of full-fledged theism, whatever inspiration comes in him, for the service of preaching that truth – that is more valuable than that ordinary Upanisad, Veda, and other revealed scripture. I still hold that – it cannot but be so. If you are to accept Svayam-Bhagavan, Akhila-rasamrta-murti and the full-fledged theism of Bhagavatam, then those that are earnestly, wholeheartedly trying to serve and preaching that truth, whatever inspiration comes from within, that cannot but be the truth. 

What we find created and given to us by the present authentic acarya has got infinitely more value than those which were previously seen by the rsis. Otherwise we cannot say that this is full-fledged theism. Those that can appreciate this highest form of theism, their position is nothing? Their position is not serious? If we shrink to give that sort of respectable position to the present acarya, if we cannot give such a position to the espouser of this highest form of theism, then that conviction is to be doubted.

PADA: Yup. When the current acharya says, none of my disciples are fit to be acharyas and take karma, and if they take karma they will have to suffer, then Sridhara has no authority to circumvent that instruction. And we can all see the direct odious results quite clearly. ys pd

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