Sundar Gopal ISKM Interview (VIDEO) 02 29 24

PADA: This is an interesting development. I know that some people have criticized PADA for "working with Madhu Pandit" or "working with ISKM," or others. Well maybe, but some of the followers of these programs have helped me a lot, so I have to give credit where credit is due. 

Madhu Pandit's people made a nice temple here in the Bay Area and it is doing nice work. And he is making programs in other USA locations and India that are also very nice. Tens of thousands of people are attending these programs.

And Pratyatosa was saying his Krishna media site on youtube is number two, and he has had hundreds of millions of viewers. So our folks are doing things here and there, that all add up.

Other programs have not done much of anything, so that is where it stands. And right now, Madhu Pandit's program here is even helping ISKCON's big programs like Rathayatra, by bringing lots of people to the festival etc. So it looks like eventually, ISKCON is going to more and more need "the ritviks." I also know some other official ISKCON temples where they allow "the ritviks" to do service, because they have no one else. So they are going to need us more over time. 

Are these programs or the leaders perfect? Probably not. Could they have some trouble makers in their congregations? Well yeah, but we had trouble makers in the congregation in 1975. I am not sure how we can avoid that. But these people, and their followers are making at least some progress. In the end, some alternate to ISKCON has to be made, or the society will die out altogether.

So we have to hope something will come out with these alternates. Anyway, we are getting contacts in all sorts of programs, including people right in the middle of the GBC program. And they are only staying in the GBC program because they want to make a reform from within. So there are a lot of winds of change going on, and overall we want to encourage any positive preaching efforts.

We have to remember that the conditioned souls are not going to be attracted to programs that promote false gurus, like the GBC. And they are not going to be attracted to "the ritviks" either if they are constantly squabbling, and so the conditioned souls will lose their chance to come to Krishna. 

Of course almost all the alleged ritviks who try to combat PADA are then found to have connections to folks like Jayapataka swami, Saint Radhanatha, Bhakti pedo pada's group, the Hitler-anugas, hokey racist pure devotees like Krishna Balarama swami, and / or other GBC compromisers. 

So they are not actually favorable to the Prabhupada centered ideal. And to be honest, the Hitler-anugas are even getting negative press from the secular media people, as someone pointed out to me recently. Even the mundane media folks think these people are bodily identified modes of ignorance fools. Cat and dog consciousness. Even Sulochana said we cannot promote this Zionist banker stuff or we will look like fools.

Anyway, I am getting good contacts all the time, so I think Krishna is helping the sincere find the right pathways. Of course, we will also continue to work with the secular media and others to help people in general understand how it all came to this point. The GBC guru Adikarta fall down has helped us again, because some ISKCON people wrote to ask me about it. So we will probably gain some folks from that process as well.  

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