Recently Mathura Pati / Mathias Sabji says that the Prabhupadanugas EU web site is no longer in his control. OK and whose control is it in? And if he does not agree with the current policies there, why not write and expose and we will post it? Urdhvaga told me he handed it over to Mathura Pati -- and if that has changed -- no one was ever notified. Nor does Urdhvaga / Mathura Pati ever tell us who we can write to now -- to address complaints to the current site owners. OK it looks like they are bluffing that they handed the site over to some mystery others.
The Prabhupadanugas EU site was at one point erasing Srila Prabhupada's statements -- that the books must be published the original way. And then they essentially said these comments from Srila Prabhupada are rubbish and nonsense. Then, when people began to cite statements to defend Yasodanandana from followers of Narayan Maharaja's false accusations on their site, those comments too were erased. That is exactly what happens to us on GBC managed sites.
I get it, the Prabhupadanugas EU site is promoting: The Hitler-anugas; Mukunda's Zionist bankers nonsense; Prahlad glorifying the Hitler-anugas; Prahlad citing his heros -- Tamal, Kirtanananda, Hari Sauri, and / or Judas; Flat earth conspiracies; And more recently -- complaints made by the followers of Narayan Maharaja, another Judas disciple camp -- so they can "generate controversial topics and attract viewers."
OK same thing Prahlad told me, we cite all these Hitler-anuga / Zionist banker sites to "get lots of hits." Yeah but you'll eventually burn out almost all viewers once they realize you are just manipulating them for "site traffic." We are not supposed to promote false information just to attract "site traffic."
Otherwise, we should be advertising bikini contest videos if our goal is simply -- to attract a lot of views. Getting "lots of hits" is not the goal of a Vaishnava site. Anyway it looks like Mathura Pati has run out of rabbits to pull out of his magic hat, and he is losing what few people who were supporting him and his site, or whoever they heck the site is owned by now.
This whole thing started right at the get go when Mathura Pati started to write all sorts of anti-Zionist stuff on his web site, which is actually illegal in Germany. When we told him that, he just got angry and did not appreciate we were trying to keep him from being arrested. Another know it all devotee who cannot take any good advice. Never mind, we will publish things on our sites.
Hari bolo. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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Wonderful Prabhus. It seems that historically, whenever, wherever there is a spiritual movement, there is a "witch-hunt" within the "family." They tried even to kill Jesus and Haridas Thakur. And I have just read that the "brahmanas" wanted to bribe the police to turn away as they were planning to kill Srila Bhaktisiddhanta. I have so much respect for your [Yasodanandana] classes, and your posts glorifying the various acaryas, your loyalty to Srila Prabhupada's teachings. The dogs will bark, but the caravan will pass.
With respect, gratitude and affection,
Ishan das
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Subject: Dwarkadhisa dasa: Raghunatha is the only one I know of that accuses Yasodhanandana of abuse from our gurukula members.
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:08:15 -0800
To: info@prabhupadanugas.eu
CC: Urdhvaga Dasa <u08@gmx.net>,
Mathura-Pati <srikrischna108@freenet.de>, mgd@mailbox.org,
For publication on your website
Hare Krsna. My name is Dvarakadhisa Dasa aka Mr DDD. I was in the Gurukula from 1969 in NV, 1970 NYC, 1971-1975 Dallas, 1975 Mayapur, 1976 – 1982 Vrndavan. I knew and remember Raghunatha the gurukula boy in Dallas and Vrndavan. It is really horrible of what us kids how to endure all these years of horrible torture, abuse, and neglect. I have empathy for Raghunatha.
I need others to know that everything that Raghunatha speaks is not the truth. Raghunatha is the only one I know of that accuses Yasodhanandana of abuse. Raghunatha as a kid would not only really irritate the teachers but many kids as well.
For some reason Raghunatha never mentions in his expose that he caused any problems to the teachers and kids. He has selective memory. I know he made me angry many times. He had learning disability for sure but since there was no professional medical treatment I would guess he had ADHD.
I don’t know if he has ever gone for treatment for his mental health. I know Raghunatha craved attention as some older kids who were studious like Ekendra, Lila Smaran and myself were getting. Some of the kids were very cooperative and hardly got any trouble, but still we had to encounter a lot of horrible things such as getting molested, made to fast, getting beat to the point of bruises.
Regarding Yasodhanandana I have known him since 1976, and still I am friends with him today. All the older boys really admired him. He taught his how to recite mantras such as the Brahma Samhita. He was strict but never abusive. He had a sense of humor and dedication to teaching us Prabhupada’s books. Srila Prabhupada told him to teach us boys in the Vrndavan Gurukula. I would have to agree with Yasodhanandana that Raghunatha is fabricating his story of being beaten with the rings. No where I have seen in the testimony on the gurukula lawsuit that Yasodhanandana is accused of any abuse.
YS
Dvarakadhisa Dasa
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Dwarkadish dasa:
Yeah Raghu the kid is still mad. Raghu was never sane as I think back about him. Why would someone always be antagonizing the teachers to get hurt? Most of us would get bugged by him.
He had a learning disability for sure. Well Prabhupada showed him great affection. He still has a lot of love for Prabhupada and Krsna.
I just read his obituary on fb about his mom. He had big dreams about developing his American Shopping party by making videos and such. He thinks he can save America by having his own political party. I talked to my friend Prahlad who was in the gurukula in Vrndavan.
He knew Raghu in the community in LA temple. He said Raghu was always promising things in business that everyone knew he couldn't deliver. He was lamenting that he was going to take his mother to Vrndavan for his last days. He had to get his political party of the ground.
It has been the same story all the time. He has always been a big talker, not much of a doer. I have not communicated with him in maybe 10 years. He wanted to visit and stay with me I think 10 years ago but I told him I needed to ask my wife. That is how I got rid of him as he never came. He came to the Berkeley temple saying he knows Jaganatha Swami but Jaganatha Swami told him I don't know you. He wanted to stay in the temple so he sell devotees or the congregation on his stupid political party stuff.
Raghu and his mother have been hitting up everyone for money on fb for their medical or financial needs for years on fb. I got so tired of it years back. I am glad his mother is not suffering anymore. She had been severely ill for some years.
Yasodanandana wrote:
Dear Dwarkadhisa ji
Respectful pranams
So now the so-called Prabhupada anuga EU has recycled some of the old nonsense fabrications from Mr. Raghunatha dasa. These nonsense allegations also came up in 2004. A few notes from the article below.
Example: He states that I requested devotees to bring an emerald ring. I never owned an emerald ring.
He claims that I requested devotees to bring a Narasimha ring to beat him up. Another fabrication. That Narasimha ring had been worn by Srila Prabhupada and given to me by the late secretary. It was a sacred item [tadiya] being used as an item of worship on a gurukula altar used to train older boys in deity worship and sastric training. It would never be used to beat somebody. That is a fabrication.
Many of the events and stories in the article below are an attempt to smear and slander my name.
I hope this finds you well.
Hare Krishna
Yasoda nandana dasa
Yeah Raghu the kid is still mad. Raghu was never sane as I think back about him. Why would someone always be antagonizing the teachers to get hurt? Most of us would get bugged by him.
He had a learning disability for sure. Well Prabhupada showed him great affection. He still has a lot of love for Prabhupada and Krsna.
I just read his obituary on fb about his mom. He had big dreams about developing his American Shopping party by making videos and such. He thinks he can save America by having his own political party. I talked to my friend Prahlad who was in the gurukula in Vrndavan.
He knew Raghu in the community in LA temple. He said Raghu was always promising things in business that everyone knew he couldn't deliver. He was lamenting that he was going to take his mother to Vrndavan for his last days. He had to get his political party of the ground.
It has been the same story all the time. He has always been a big talker, not much of a doer. I have not communicated with him in maybe 10 years. He wanted to visit and stay with me I think 10 years ago but I told him I needed to ask my wife. That is how I got rid of him as he never came. He came to the Berkeley temple saying he knows Jaganatha Swami but Jaganatha Swami told him I don't know you. He wanted to stay in the temple so he sell devotees or the congregation on his stupid political party stuff.
Raghu and his mother have been hitting up everyone for money on fb for their medical or financial needs for years on fb. I got so tired of it years back. I am glad his mother is not suffering anymore. She had been severely ill for some years.
Yasodanandana wrote:
Dear Dwarkadhisa ji
Respectful pranams
So now the so-called Prabhupada anuga EU has recycled some of the old nonsense fabrications from Mr. Raghunatha dasa. These nonsense allegations also came up in 2004. A few notes from the article below.
Example: He states that I requested devotees to bring an emerald ring. I never owned an emerald ring.
He claims that I requested devotees to bring a Narasimha ring to beat him up. Another fabrication. That Narasimha ring had been worn by Srila Prabhupada and given to me by the late secretary. It was a sacred item [tadiya] being used as an item of worship on a gurukula altar used to train older boys in deity worship and sastric training. It would never be used to beat somebody. That is a fabrication.
Many of the events and stories in the article below are an attempt to smear and slander my name.
I hope this finds you well.
Hare Krishna
Yasoda nandana dasa
MMD: This happens a lot. The fake Prabhupada devotees always say ... we are going to unite the Prabhupadanugas. First item on the list? We are going to promote hate and anarchy against all the other Prabhupadanugas. And give the "Prabhupadanuga" idea a bad reputation.
ReplyDeleteAnd what good does that do? That only helps the GBC gurus. That makes them undercover agents of the gurus. They are already making Hare Krishnas look bad with all their Zionism program.
It looks to me like they are undercover accomplices of the swindler gurus. They entice or encourage others to join their Prabhupada group, so they can destroy people's faith in all the other Prabhupada groups. I noticed this right away the way ... they went after Madhu Pandit. He is making many people worship Prabhupada and -- they hate that ... just like their GBC over lords.
What makes them different from the GBC? They are more dangerous because they make pretend they are the reform, when they are shills for the GBC. They want to destroy the Prabhupadanugas and that is their real business.
It is sad they are cheating so many people in the name of Prabhupadanugas. They hate the Prabhupadanugas, and that is really the problem, they are trying to infiltrate Prabhupada worship ... to destroy it.
Now they are using the same GBC tactic ... re-writing history to take down the Prabhupadanugas. They have never been actual Prabhupadanugas, they are a scam. I am glad more people are catching on. They have no interest in uniting anything, they want to divide, conquer and destroy. They are another version of the GBC gurus.
LD: Makes no sense. We are going to unite the Prabhupadanugas, by helping the GBC attack the Prabhupadanugas. That is only helping the GBC ... and their goons. Not helping unite the Prabhupadanugas.
ReplyDeleteHelping unite means, to cooperate and ... work together. The karmis do this every day ... they build all sorts of big giant organizations, but very few devotees have this skill. And the plain fact is, many devotees are too egotistical to cooperate with any other devotees.
And that means they are ... more or less ... another version of the GBC.
PADA: Yes prabhu, the same thing happened with Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks. They started to cite Kirtanananda and his followers, that me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas. Later on, they began to cite Bhavananada's bucket boy Hari Sauri's diary. So they never left the GBC's guru camp, ever.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, they are not Prabhupadanugas but followers of the GBC's anus sex pooja program -- and they are falsely advertising as Prabhupadanugas. Sulochana called them "boot lickers for the butt busters."
And Prahlad [Paul Coats] started to say that anyone who does not engage in being a boot licker for his butt busters messiah's project is "destroying the unity of the Prahbupadanugas." OK so we have to worship butt buster messiah's programs -- or we are not Prabhupadanugas? Sorry, they are not Prabhupadanugas, nor are they interested in unifying the Prabhupadanugas.
Any bona fide Prabhupadanuga is totally against their butt buster guru projects, but even the local karmi butcher and town drunk is also against such deviations, because they have what is called a basic moral platform for their existence. The butt buggery program and its cheer leaders are simply not moral people, plain and simple, and that is how they destroy children, never mind destroy spiritual lives of many others. Why are they citing the leaders and writers for the butt buggery messiah's program? Because they never left that program. ys pd