Has opened the door for communication.
Except as usual, we are banned.
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PADA: "Prabhupada wanted" to liberate the whole planet -- by having the world worship Bhagavan's illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs; who are orchestrating banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, police raids and terminating dissenters? And the ISKCON children will be liberated by worshiping Bhagavan's homosexual and pedophile guru regime's pals?
And when there was a clamor to remove Bhavananda and his Mayapur molester's empire, Bhagavan said "over my dead body" because these leaders wanted their pedo messiah's club's "God's successors" to remain. Or what?
Did I forget to mention, an estimated several thousand children were molested as a result of this regime, a number of children were raped, and some subsequently committed suicide -- out of trauma and grief -- under Bhagavan's messiah's program.
A friend of Bhagavan's said he was going to work to have me added as a person who could comment on Bhagavan's posts since "we are one family." That friend was then blocked so he could not ask on my behalf any longer.
It always seems like these guys live in their own little ivory tower bubble, and they seem to have no actual idea what is going on with the citizens due to their poor policies, ok like forcing children to worship their homosexual and pedophile pal's guru process -- as their messiahs.
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
[Bhagavan said people are writing about the former zonal gurus like vultures hunting leftover road kill].
P Dasi: Ooofa. Taking out the trash and draining the swamp.
DS: "Caw Caw! Caw" The vegetarian vultures are highlighting the dead sociopaths who are the roadkill themselves. Their dead bodies continue to flap and exclaim "We did nothing wrong! You must accept me and my sociopathic manipulations and mind games while I make my dramatic and pretentious comeback to pollute the devotees with my towering ego trip! See how many naive devotees we've successfully snookered already? We have lots of uneducated friends and copious syrupy sentimental comments!"
LS: Maybe he can go counterfeit some more money. Wasn't he arrested for counterfeit money?
RK: Who is better, those who took part in the "road kill" or the vultures in actual fact I never seen vultures on road kills. So who picks up the pieces on the road kills that carry on?
TS: Anyways, let bygones be bygones ... no need for anymore talk of his golden toilet seats at the Palace of Versaille...
AD: Gold toilets. While children in their guru schools were not getting enough food -- and their bones were sticking out from starvation.
J Dasa: Interesting how many people do not put 'likes' or comments but somehow know all about these posts. Methinks there are lotsa lurkers out there; like those who claim they don't read internet posts yet somehow know everything about what is being said.
DS: "Caw Caw! Caw" The vegetarian vultures are highlighting the dead sociopaths who are the roadkill themselves. Their dead bodies continue to flap and exclaim "We did nothing wrong! You must accept me and my sociopathic manipulations and mind games while I make my dramatic and pretentious comeback to pollute the devotees with my towering ego trip! See how many naive devotees we've successfully snookered already? We have lots of uneducated friends and copious syrupy sentimental comments!"
LS: Maybe he can go counterfeit some more money. Wasn't he arrested for counterfeit money?
RK: Who is better, those who took part in the "road kill" or the vultures in actual fact I never seen vultures on road kills. So who picks up the pieces on the road kills that carry on?
TS: Anyways, let bygones be bygones ... no need for anymore talk of his golden toilet seats at the Palace of Versaille...
AD: Gold toilets. While children in their guru schools were not getting enough food -- and their bones were sticking out from starvation.
J Dasa: Interesting how many people do not put 'likes' or comments but somehow know all about these posts. Methinks there are lotsa lurkers out there; like those who claim they don't read internet posts yet somehow know everything about what is being said.
RD: I know many -- do this -- and I always got crazy about that because you put some effort to create a nice devotional content and nobody gives support even with 'likes'. Still people get to know exactly everything we post about the bad gurus.
LB Dasi: Torch, not tourch... When it rains, it pours = quando tuonain qualche posto piove
RS: One only has to remember how they behaved during their guru reign. Bhagavan was one of the worst! They carried themselves as if they were some type of divine God's. I will never forget the way they carried on with their out of control egos. To write something like he did shows he still has no humility. They were scammers of the highest order. Satsvarupa and Harikesa were the only two who had a shred of humility about them in my opinion.
Now they won't admit. I do have to say that Bhavananda did apologise to me. I worked with him when he was banned and I did see a humble side to a man not noted for it.
LB: The Sun King was a narcissist when he was a so called Guru. Narcissists don’t change ...
RS: Agree. He was such a narcissist.
LB: For sure . I experienced it myself. I had some interactions with him in India while serving prasadam to him and Tamal. He belittled me. Treated me as if I was a fool. He was spending the whole day sun-baking also on the banks of the Ganges. Sun tan Swami.
RS: I too remember him chastising me over nothing. Putting me into my place so to speak. He made my skin crawl even then.
LB: Exactly. He did the same to me. Very envious and controlling nature. I was there in Mayapur when Bhagavan made that heavy brazen announcement "Bhavananda won’t be removed over my dead body“. A few weeks later he himself fell down. Pride comes before a fall.
AD: He was fallen way before it was officially known. But this does mean Bhagavan must have known about the homosexual escapades of his gurus.
JD: His posts ooze self aggrandizement, but I doubt he writes them himself.
BH: Bahahaha he is a mad man.
YV Dasi: Love your attitude! It’s important work you are doing - even if it means exposing the trash.
RD: The thing is that Srila Prabhupada never appointed any of the 11 as gurus and Prabhupada said many times that guru should NOT be appointed.
BN Dasi: It's my understanding that Srila Prabhupada did not name anyone to be guru. None of his disciples were qualified.
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BD: There is somebody I know of who is a former member of Chris Butler's cult (Science of Identity Foundation, or SOIF), who is compiling a book of the accounts of former members of SOIF and ISKCON. He is looking for former members to interview, who are willing to talk about abuse, fraud, and exploitation that they endured while members of those organizations. But the thing is, he is today a militant atheist who preaches atheism at people like fanatical devotees preach Krishna consciousness at people.
I am hesitant to refer former members I know of to this man, because he's constantly making fun of the philosophy and of the idea of God at all. I hesitate to refer former members I know to this guy because he tends to try to make others feel stupid for joining in the first place, or for believing in God at all. This man was born and raised in SOIF, so he had no choice, and he can be really caustic with adults who joined of their own volition.
On the other hand, this book he is trying to compile could be a valuable resource toward further exposing these groups, and the abuses that take place within them But damn, he is a preachy atheist. Please PM me if you want to learn more, or if you want me to introduce you to this man. His book idea has the potential to be very helpful.
MMD: The movement would expand unlimitedly! How so? They are still in their "it is expanding" illusion. That is what they said in 1978. It will be a glorious giant expansion.
ReplyDeleteNot true. The movement immediately started to go into ... terminal illness, and it has never recovered. It went from having the flu to cancer tumors all over the body. Right now, it is rigor mortis stage. Bhagavan took ISKCON into a giant death spiral, and more and more people left, with more leaving every day.
And more and more of the people who left ... started to criticize. Then there was all the horrible news publicity. And then he says ... we will not get rid of these offensive gurus, only -- over my dead body.
Sounds like he knew what has to be done right then! He needs to disappear, so we can get rid of the rest of them. He wanted to keep ... the main people responsible for all the child abuse in Mayapur. And that is his idea of glorious expansion of ISKCON? Destroy the youth?
And then he says, Krishna will judge all this. Krishna already passed judgement, you failed to even keep the existing movement intact, never mind it did not expand. You destroyed what little was existing in 1978.
They cannot admit to doing that, because it would hurt their giant puffed up egos. They are just giant egos who think they are big devotees, when they are not even bona fide lower stage neophytes. Now the problem is, he won't be able to take his golden toilet with him when he goes to see Yama.
ISKCON won't get rid of these bad gurus ... over his dead body. That means ... he was one of the people making the worse cases gurus stay ... and caused all this trouble. He also told Ramesvara to stay. Then he was part of their enforcement department. Forced all this upon us, and the world. Expansion of ISKCON? My a**. You expanded the misery of the devotees and the whole planet tenfold.
You will have to pay for this eventually. You must have hated Prabhupada because you hated his disciple children, and their children, and so you made them suffer. That means you have to suffer. The long arm of the karma law always gets the criminals at some point.
M Dasi: Some of them keep coming back later ... to make it look like nothing bad happened. The mass murderer ... who keeps showing up at the scene of his crimes. Something really bad happened here ... hope they catch the person. But you are the person.
ReplyDeleteRamesvara is also staging his comeback. Bhagavan ruined the lives of thousands of devotee people, ... easily. He turned off almost all their children from ever being devotees. His own children are struggling with intoxicants and who knows.
He got many people to leave ISKCON and join Narayan swami. The same pot club we have here. Now he is back to help us? Help us do what? When will they finally admit ... they made ISKCON into a Gestapo forced hell.
We only wanted to initiate people to expand the movement. No. You wanted to initiate people so you could steal them from Prabhupada ... and ISKCON ... and turn them upside down, to shake all the money in their pockets, and make a few stolen dollars for yourself.
And that is all their "we are gurus" was ever about. They wanted to exploit Prabhupada's mission for themselves ... because Prabhupada was always only their private cash cow business. They never had any love for Prabhupada ... and that is why they attacked his children, and attacked the children of his children.
Bhavananda has to stay. So we can make more and more hell for more and more children. That is all they were ever about. They don't love anyone ... even themselves ... because if they loved themselves they would not beat open the gates of hell ... and jump in.