Sridhara Maharaja Helped Jayatirtha to Early Grave

PADA: Sridhara Maharaja "helped Jayatirtha"? Well yep, helped him to an early grave.

DD: Implicit faith with the lord and the spiritual master everything is revealed, but not to you.

R Das #1: Harekrsna! The words of my gurudeva is not his words he just simply quotes those verses for all of devotee's who are just like cuckoo's who eats nectarean fruits, unlike you who is liken to a vulture who is fond of eating dead and rotten bodies, yuck! If you meticulously scan the post of R das #2 you will find that all are full of transcendental knowledge leading to the purity of bhakti path wherein sraddha is defined to be the most vital form of achieving favour (Kripa) from our predecessors for us to understand the conclusive truth of our line leading to our establishment of premarasa in the wake of the vrajavasi's like the sakhi's.

R Das #2: So much engrossed in finding fault with any of the current gurus who in fact himself doesn't know even how or where such these current gurus got their each inspiration from. You see. There are many of these type who with crow-like taste buds especially in the Pro-Rittvik party whose only sole interest and pleasure, is to discuss the only external feature and activities of the Vaishnava current gurus instead of spending their time supposed to be in preaching the glories of Krsna to people and make them into Vaisnavas.

PADA: Sridhara Maharaja said the disciples of Jayatirtha have to worship -- and have sraddha in -- Jayatirtha. And so hundreds of his people blooped and started the biggest ecstacy drug selling operation in Europe "The Peace Krishnas." Nowhere in shastra is it stated that people need to worship -- and have sraddha in -- drug takers and drug dealers. That is not the Vedic process. 

R Das #2: You're out of the context. Your comment is simply irrelevant and mundane. Your thoughts are not focused on Krsna's knowledge, pastimes, qualities and His glories. You better review Bhagavad-Gita (10.9) for a better tune in with your consciousness.

PADA: Confidential knowledge only comes from the bona fide acharya. A drug dealer acharya is mundane. "Only unto those great souls who simultaneously have implicit faith in the WORDS of both the Lord and the spiritual master are all the imports of Vedic understanding automatically realized within the heart." That means, drug dealer acharyas are not part of the process, and Sridhara Maharaja has no authority to include drug dealers as acharyas. 

R das #2: Don't be judgemental to any current guru or with any disciples of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura especially Srila Sridhara Maharaja who is very dear to Bhaktisiddhanta. You should be happy supposed to be by seeing a senior Vaisnava, a God brother or any current guru who are now continuing the preaching mission which Srila Prabhupada has left to us. Srila Prabhupada advised us in this regard, as follows:

"A devotee is always pleased to see another devotee. When an Indian is in a foreign country and sees another Indian, he goes up to him and says, ‘Oh, wherefrom are you coming? How long are you here?’ Similarly, as soon as we see a devotee, we should be eager to welcome him and talk with him about Krishna. As soon as devotees meet, they talk about Krishna and try to understand Krishna. Bhaktas take great pleasure in such exchanges. You should be happy to see another devotee. Talk with him about Krishna, and forget all these false designations."

(A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Vrindaban Days.)

PADA: There are no examples of any bona fide devotees in the entire Vedic shastra who tell people to have sraddha / faith in the worship of drug taking drug dealers as their acharyas? Talking about Krishna does not include worship of drug dealer acharyas, that is not part of the process of Krishna katha for millions of years, no drug dealers are worshiped as acharyas, nor is that recommended by any bona fide Vaishnavas in shastra. 

Worship of drug dealers makes others also into drug dealers, you become what you worship, and that happened to various disciples of Jayatirtha. A number of them also became drug takers and drug dealers. How is that connected to Krishna katha? And when I said this is wrong, Sridhara said : "none should protest." None should protest drug taking drug dealer acharyas? 

R Das #2: No example? One who has jaundice disease sees everyone and everything seem looked to him as yellow. Got my point?

PADA: Agreed, worshiping drug addict acharyas simply increases the jaundice disease. We were saved because we did not agree or participate. Jayatirtha wanted to make me the guru of Ireland, he wanted me to get his same Jaundice disease he has too. You are right! We must save ourselves from this process, by following shastra, do not worship conditioned souls as acharyas. It is forbidden in shastra. 

R Das #2: You're always swayed by your filthy thoughts and ideas. Stand up and show your divinity towards your fellow Vaishnava devotees especially to those who preach and making converts. Assist them if you feel yourself is more advance or much purer than them, instead of criticizing them.

PADA: Converting people to worship illicit sex drug taking drug dealers is not the process. All of the acharyas condemn drug taking and drug selling persons, especially when they are making pretend they are acharyas. Illicit sex and taking and selling intoxicants are activities in the modes of ignorance -- and are not in any manner connected to gurus and acharyas.]

R Das: #2: We worship acaryas regardless of their each adhikara and ability in preaching with the intention to please Krsna from such worship. Krsna says, "I am the ability in man."

PADA: A person in the modes of ignorance might be considered as some very elementary level, kindergarten class, less than kanistha devotee of Krishna, who is just at the basic beginning stages, but on no account is such a person a guru.

Right, I had to save devotees from Jayatirtha's cult when he came recruiting here in San Francisco. His two hundred followers confronted me at one point and wanted to physically assault me, but my few friends were there, and my friends had -- by luck or fortune -- some weapons, and that is how I was saved actually. 

That is how Krishna sometimes shows His divinity, He saves people by His various tricks, like He did here. A drug dealer has no Vaishnava guru adhikari, he is a fallen person, not a guru. This is well known even to ordinary people, drug dealers are not gurus. 

R Das #2: Sorry you didn't get my point. You're the one who with jaundice like disease of vision. You see all current gurus are bogus but actually you are the one who with bogus vision. Got it? Real vaishnava is compassionate like Lord Nityananda towards Jagai and Madhai. That's the test.

PADA: Right, so when I said that drug dealers are not acharyas, Sridhara Maharaja should have had mercy on me and supported me. Instead, he said "none should protest," he went against me, and he said we need to have sraddha in JT, making me a target. He sided with the people who wanted to ban and assault me, or worse. The only reason I survived is that the police helped me. The police are more merciful than them. 

R Das #2: SSM was only trying to help the hopeless JT since many of his god brothers who despised him instead of solace and rescue him from his devotional crisis. SSM didn't actually approved with JT's unwanted attacked by Maya but since SSM was the only senior concern citizen to all Prabhupada's disciples those days, he was trying to help JT and the rest. 

That's all. So, you should not blame or scapegoat everything to SSM for JT's personal problem. You should rather blame yourself and the rests who didn't able to rescue and restore JT's situation. That's should supposedly be your right attitude as a humble follower of Srila Prabhupada.

PADA: Telling a drug dealer to be an acharya is why that acharya is no longer on the planet, it destroyed his life. Literally. Put him into an early grave.

And THEN almost all his people blooped out and UK yatra went bankrupted after all JT's people left. That helps destroy people's lives and the yatra itself. I told JT he is not qualified to accept sins and he said SRIDHAR MAHARAJ says I am QUALIFIED to be guru. 

I am not blaming anyone, just quoting the history here. I said drug dealers are not qualified to be acharyas -- and Sridhar Maharaja worked against me. He gave me zero mercy or help, he was trying to sabotage my efforts, which almost got me taken off the planet -- except the police helped me against the JT gang. 

I was only able to survive by help from the police, and that means -- I am not humble? I am a rabbit who should just jump into the lion's mouth and be humble? Anytime you want to give me sensible advice, let me know! You do not help a drug dealer by telling him he is an acharya, that will make his situation worse, way worse, and ruin the lives of his followers, and is has. ys pd