[PADA: Well yep, we are down to having most devotees living independent and at home, because the movement became uninhabitable. OK especially for a lot of women, who could not fight the gay saffron mafia -- as Sulochana called them. Even the GBC are saying that they need to focus on the outside community, since most devotees are now outside.
Of course Srila Prabhupada was not in favor of most people living independent on their own. And he said -- if the devotees are scattered -- they would suffer and not be able to follow properly. And yet the first rattle out of the GBC box in 1978, was -- to scatter the devotees. Anyway we are where we are now, and most PADA readers are also independent home dwellers. So we can just struggle along as best we can and try to think of Krishna where we are now.
Pritaa is correct, there has been a lot of "men devotees" cherry picking certain quotes to use as a lever to force women to be "more submissive" -- in order to exploit them. Not good pilgrims.
First of all, we are not this body, thus neither are these women their body, so we should not be exploiting anyone's else's body for our own benefit. We have to operate on the platform of "aham brahmasmi," i.e. everyone is a spiritual spark from God. Otherwise, seeing others as their body, and especially as objects for our exploiting, will keep us stuck onto the wheel of samsara.
ys pd
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