KKD: I've just been told by a devotee studying the ISKCON disciple's course that any service rendered for Krishna up to now means nothing. The understanding of this devotee is that service is only recognised through the institution.
I'm sure you know the implications of this. Krishna is nowhere else but within the walls of you know where. If this is the understanding of prospective disciples, it needs to be cleared up. Otherwise, there goes the option of serving Krishna at home or anywhere else.[PADA: It shows how much desperation ISKCON is falling down to. No one is serving God, unless they are serving Him through me and my official program. The first problem is, the GBC themselves have been sending people off to BR Sridhara, BV Narayana, BV and BP Puri, disciples of Ananta Vasudeva, Fakir Mohan and many other off shoots themselves. And people like Mahanidhi and some of the Russian zone gurus are going off to the Radha Kunda babajis etc. The GBC is itself creating numbers of spin off organizations.
In addition, many of the followers of various GBC's gurus bloop out when their guru bloops out, following things like Jayatirtha's "Peace Krishnas." In other words, ISKCON leaders are the main people responsible for the splintering, schism and break down of the mission. But after all the schism and splintering they engineered, now they are saying no one should seek outside association, after they headed ISKCON off the cliff into outside association themselves.
To say no one is serving Krishna outside the institution looks like the last nail in their own coffin. This idea will drive even more people away from their institution, considering it as too sectarian, narrow minded, fanatical, overbearing, controlling and political. This will back fire, just like everything else they are doing back fires eventually.
Meanwhile I argued with some of these "disciple course" students about twelve months ago, where they were telling me it is common for acharyas to fall down and become debauchees. What are they teaching people there? Never mind the India ICC scholars told me that we bogus mlecchas are too fallen to join them -- in pedophile's messiah pooja.
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M Dasi: This might have worked ... in the early stage. After they send everyone over the Gaudiya Math ... then they say ... anyone who associates with Gaudiya Matha is out of ISKCON. They forgot ... ISKCON sends everyone out to the Gaudiya Math.
ReplyDeleteThey send everyone over to the Gaudiya Matha ... then when we follow their order ... which we have to follow or be removed ... we are no longer ISKCON and we have to be removed. Then they had everyone going off to get rasika from Narayan Maharaja.
Then they said their rasika prema acharya is a demon who is stealing followers. Then they went to some of the Radha Kunda babas ... then they said none should go to the Radha Kunda babas. Or ... we are out of ISKCON.
Even Aindra was saying ... we are getting into too many outside associations ... and ISKCON is falling to pieces. Maybe that was the plan. Whip saw everyone back and forth ... that will empty the property ... and then we can make a Hindu ... Jay Shetty Self Help .. New Age Yoga center out of the buildings ... which they are doing.
Mostly it is Hindus here. And they have no idea what Srila Prabhupada is actually preaching. And many of them still have Durga pictures in their houses ... and Sai Baba magic photos on the dash of their cars. They don't care about the actual teachings. This has become a Hindu business. But telling Hindus ISKCON is the only Hindu program in town will be met with skeptics ... they won't accept that. They think they can go to any Hindu temple and it is all the same. It is too late to make their Hindu program only bona fide in ISKCON.
LW: When the GBC guru calls ... all he wants to know is ...
ReplyDeleteGBC: "Got rid of everyone yet? We need to have a nice empty building to make a Hindu pooja business."
Temple: "No but working on it, almost there! A few stragglers are still hanging out at the temple. We really burnt out ninety nine percent of the devotee public with our pedophile gurus. No one likes them. Working perfectly! Almost empty! And what is the next step?"
GBC: "After we empty the place out ... we declare ... only the people here are doing service ... no other service counts."
Temple: "Perfect. Instead of hundreds of people doing service ... now we can take it down to ten people. And the hundreds of people who left will never come back ... if we declare their service outside of our authority is NOT authorized by Krishna.
"We will really burn them to toast with that idea."
GBC: "Fine. We only want people who think pedophile gurus hold the patent license for devotional service ... and pedophile gurus are the tradition of India's culture ... and if they don't agree ... and why would they ... they won't ever come back. We get the building from them for free"!