But wait? When their guru Lokanath was caught molesting a young girl, they argued "this is an Indian cultural thing, he does not know how to deal with a young girl." But we bogus mlecchas, born in the USA, we do know how an adult male should act with a minor aged girl?
OK lets take a look at India culture then. All sorts of their alleged God men, swamis, yogis and avatars -- are often being caught over there -- in fact almost all of the time on a regular basis -- being engaged in illicit sexual behaviors. One of them was Satya Sai Baba, who was alleged to have 100,000,000 followers world wide. And he was being promoted by the biggest India politicians, scholars and dignitaries there. But, what if he was also -- a pedophile?
Now lets get back to ISKCON and their India ICC Bureau. They claim we Westerners cannot comprehend India culture. OK, but what if we do understand India's culture better than they do? What if we understand that some of these gurus in India -- who maybe even have over 100,000,000 followers -- might also be pedophiles? And if they have 100,000,000 followers, that just means 100,000,000 people are in illusion. Then what?
Sorry, just because a person has 100,000,000 followers, and he gets support from big India political leaders, or even if he has a trillion followers, that does not mean -- he is a pure person. And it also does not mean he is not a pedophile. Lokanath swami is the guru of the ISKCON India ICC bureau. And he is a pedophile.
So what difference does it make how many followers he has, or does not have? And since we bogus Western mlecchas do not worship pedophiles, how does that make us lesser beings than them, because their culture does worship pedophiles as their messiahs, or even as God incarnated?
Yep, as a matter of fact, we do understand India culture -- at least -- better than them. So when these ISKCON India ICC / Bhakti Vikas swami people argue -- we mlecchas do not understand India culture, does that mean, we do not understand that we should accept pedophiles as God men, or even as God incarnated? What is their point exactly?
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Sai Baba: Pedophile or God incarnate?
By SALON STAFF
PUBLISHED JULY 26, 2001 7:00PM (EDT)
I read the story of Sai Baba, the Indian guru, written by Michelle Goldberg. I had contributed what I know about Sai Baba and his pedophilia to this story, and I wish to add that I had represented this matter to the U.S. Department of State, and the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi, which asked me to assist the FBI in its fact-finding mission.
I met with the FBI officers in Chicago, and gave them more than 100 pages of sworn affidavits from victims of sexual abuse from all over the world, many of them from U.S. citizens, including minors.
The FBI, after consulting with the U.S. attorney's office, has sent the Sai Baba case to the Department of Justice in Washington, where it has been sitting for the past three months with no further action so far.
Sai Baba is a dangerous pedophile in the guise of a guru, and enjoys the active support of top Indian political leaders including Prime Minister Vajpayee. Sai Baba's organization is worth about $1.5 billion worldwide, and enjoys tax-exempt status in the U.S.
It seems rather likely that the U.S. government, under diplomatic pressure from the top levels of the Indian government, are soft-pedaling the Sai Baba matter, to save the top Indian leadership from being discredited.
Because pedophilia is one of the most evil crimes, shocking the conscience of every right-thinking human being, U.S. citizens, media, legislators and law enforcement officials should ensure that maximum effort is taken in making the Indian government do what it should do: investigate and prosecute Sai Baba.
The U.S. government, too, can file a case against Sai Baba, as many of its citizens, including minors, have been sexually abused. And unless something is done, this is going to continue. Although the crimes are being committed in India, surely there are many means by which the U.S. government can formally ask the Indian government to initiate investigations.
-- Hari Sampath
All former devotees and supporters of Truth and Goodness appreciate your shining the spotlight of Truth on the dark side of Sathya Sai Baba, who calls himself God.
Hopefully your story will open the eyes and touch the hearts of the American people, and will be syndicated throughout the world media until this evil molester of children is brought to justice. And hopefully his organization will be exposed and held accountable for covering up these heinous acts for over 40 years.
We thank you for your excellent writing -- and may it soon be proved that he is indeed not "untouchable."
-- Glen Meloy
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Well, it just goes to show: While it's not really necessary to be a religious figure to abuse children and act like a lunatic, it never hurts.
-- Keith Welch
By SALON STAFF
The molester messiahs project leadership
Yep, as soon as Bhakti Vikas swami finds a nice homosexual pedophile messiah's club, he helps their program -- that puts pedophiles in a samadhi in the dham. Wonderful! Now your kids can worship BVKS pedophile pals -- forever and ever! Our pedophile gurus will be worshiped forever! Ummm, how many demons Krishna had to fight -- who also thought their program was immortal and forever? Sorry, the day will come when BVKS's pedophile messiah's samadhis will be dug up and stuck into a sewage ditch.
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JJ: Oh boy. We unfortunate Western bogus persons do not support worship of homosexual pedophiles as God men, or as God Himself incarnate. And that makes us inferior Western mleccha's culture.
ReplyDeleteWe bogus Western people do not think homosexual pedophiles are God Himself, so we are inferior to the ISKCON ICC people's "culture." And because they worship homosexual pedophiles as God incarnated over there ... as part of their ISKCON India ICC culture, that makes them superior? Superior to what?
And then Pancaratna says we are the bogus Western liberals over here ... because we do not worship homosexual pedophiles as God incarnated ... like they are doing over there in their "culture."
Not sure how much more liberal it gets ... to worship homosexual pedophiles as God incarnated. READ: Anyone who is not accepting that sniffing little boys butts is the incarnation of God ... is a fallen Western bogus mleccha. Seriously?
Jesus H. Christmas then. We are sooper dooper fortunate to have been born as mlecchas! We never accept that sniffing the butts of little boys is an incarnation of God over here in our culture! For Christmas sakes, we do not worship butt sniffers as God incarnated, so we are inferior to them?
The ISKCON India ICC's "advanced society" worships little boy's butt sniffing as the incarnation of God, and they are proud of it! Let me become a culturally advanced person like the culture of India, and accept butt sniffing of little boys is the incarnation of God? Are these people snorting paint fumes over there?
These ISKCON India ICC people are the worst examples of two legged creatures ever. They are proud to be part of a "culture" that worships butt sniffers of little boys as the incarnation of Krishna, and they think that is superior to the people who would never do that in ten trillion years? Like us fallen people over here? They need to quit snorting paint fumes over there!
SD Dasi: This is all starting to make a lot more sense to me now. First of all ... ISKCON managers knew their homosexual and pedophile gurus would never be very popular in the West. Not ever going to gain much steam there. Westerners are just not going to have it. End of story. Period.
ReplyDeleteBut India has famous gurus .. alleged to be sex aggressors or even homosexuals and pedophiles, and yet they have been very popular anyway. Lots of people still worship them now ... even after they are dead.
Why? Lack of discrimination. So they mostly went there ... Kirtanananda, Radhanath, Bhavananda, Jayapataka, Gopal Krishna, Prithu, Hari Sauri, Bhakti Vikas swami, Mahanidhi, Jagat guru swami, Pancaratna, Basu Ghosh ... and there is a giant list of many many others. They already knew ... this will be a good place to set up a homosexual and pedophile guru system ... because many people there cannot see the problem with it ... at least in many cases. Lack of discrimination.
And the government won't do anything mostly ... even when they find out "not to embarrass the big leaders." Even wayward Gaudiya Matha had a homosexual acharya ... or more than one. India is a good place to set up shop for homosexual or pedophile guru organizations. They already knew that in advance. That is why they are all flocking there and making India their head quarters.
Of course! Makes perfect sense. And now the ISKCON India ICC is making that the main selling point. See! We love homosexual and pedophile gurus and avatars over here because "we are the more advanced culture."
Hah hah. Yes, advancing to hell in a hand bag. They are making India look more and more foolish than ever ... and they are either so stupid they do not know that ... or they hate Hare Krishna and they want to make it look like a sick weird pedophile worship cult. I cannot say for sure which is it? If anyone knows ... let me know!
We are more advanced culture because we can get 100,000,000 people to worship a weird man who tends to have little boys around him all the time ... but in the USA ... they cannot hardly get 100 people to worship their homosexual and pedophile guru system.
And they never will get much more than that ... ever. They wanted to stunt and crush the religion ... and so far ... they did a good job. The place where someone can advertise 100,000,000 followers of a homosexual pedophile so-called avatar is not something to be bragging about. Are they too stupid to know that is not a good advertising point, or do they hate Hare Krishna?
AMD: I was just explaining to some people why so many Hare Krishna kids hate Hare Krishna. I know more than a few. Or at best ... they went to Narayan Maharaja ... or anywhere else as long as it is not ISKCON. And they hate talk against ISKCON from another sangha. And they preach to people that ISKCON is poison ... don't go there.
ReplyDeleteGood question. Why? We all know why. It is because people like Giriraja swami, Srutakirti, Mukunda Datta dasa, Lokanath swami ... and all of them really ... who told these kids that Srila Prabhupada always wanted you kids to have a molester as your guru.
And he wanted you to be in a school run by these bogus molester gurus and their molester entourage. Then ... many of them were in fact molested. Or they have friends who were molested.
Why would anyone who loves Prabhupada tell anyone else ... especially children ... that Srila Prabhupada wants the children of his movement to worship fools ... or even molesters ... as their gurus. Then the children ended up hating Hare Krishna because these people trained them to hate Hare Krishna. How else would they hate Hare Krishna unless they were trained to hate it? They were children ... they learned from their environment.
And in the end ... they were children who wound up hating the religion ... because of these people teaching them ... as children ... to hate it. Lets face it ... they hate Hare Krishna and that is why they teach children that pedophiles are Krishna's successors. They want to poison the minds of children against Krishna ... and they did. And they are still doing the same thing to others every single day.
In fact they are making entire pedophile guru party festivals ... so they can destroy people's faith in Krishna. That is what I told them ... and they agreed.
These children learned to hate Hare Krishna ... they saw how great of success they had with that ... so now they are expanding their hate program ... so they can make more people hate Krishna. And that happens over and over when their followers eventually find out and leave. They end up disgusted with the religion as well. This is not happening by accident. It is a sinister cabal. These people thought I was a nutty conspiracy person at first ... but now they are saying ... you are right ... it is a sinister cabal.They hate Krishna ... and they sneaked into His relgion ... to destroy it.
Mama Bear: If there is one thing pedophiles love, it is to see other pedophiles being worshiped. This seems to be simply a pedophile club.
ReplyDeleteIt is like when ... transvestites dress up as women and they have some big dress up show and festival. They walk up on stage and the other transvestites all applaud and glorify their friends.
And when pedophiles ... or pedophile lovers ... see one another being glorified ... they all clap and applaud. That is the society they have created. I think it is time to take the gloves off and call a spade a spade.