R Dasa Writes re: ISKCON / BVKS

Hare Krishna Puranjana Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thank you as always for you untiring efforts to expose corruption and re-introduce worship of Srila Prabhupada as ISKCON's present Acharya who we should all be following. A point regarding foolish Bhakti Vikash's statement about people not choosing the right guru ... he speaks rubbish.

Every one of us came to the Krishna consciousness movement by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada, including those who have now taken so-called shelter elsewhere. It is only after we join or are attracted to Srila Prabhupada, or in the case of gurukulis, during indoctrination, that we were swayed, pressured, and coerced to take shelter of conditioned rubber-stamped gurus.

Otherwise, we would all have remained perfectly happy under the safe shelter of Srila Prabhupada. Those of us who have always worshipped Srila Prabhupada as our topmost guru don't get damaged, broken, or disillusioned when the rubber stampers deviate or fall down. We already know their fall down is inevitable, even if they manage to conceal their behaviour and mentality from others. 

Actually, they are already fallen the moment they try to imitate Srila Prabhupada.
As usual, Bhakti Vikash has the chronological order of things back to front. As the most recent pure disciplic representative, Srila Prabhupada is your guru, my guru, the guru of the children, and the guru of the entire world.

Only fraudsters with a desire for fame, followers, and money disagree with Srila Prabhupada's instructions on the matter, as do their silently complicit associates.

Your servant,
R das

[PADA: Correct. Bhakti Vikas swami is trying to re-write and distort history. He says that the people who got cheated were not studying the Krishna science properly, and so -- these victims selected and chose the wrong gurus by being careless. Meanwhile a mother wrote me to tell me her story, but she warned -- do not ever mention my name -- these people are violent, dangerous criminals. 

So we are all free to study the shastra, and then choose our guru freely, but choose carefully, because if we make the wrong choice -- the BVKS violent criminal cult will -- remove us from ISKCON -- or even do violence on us. Where is the free choice? That is why some ex-children compare the BVKS program to North Korea. You are free to choose your leader there, but anyone who does not choose Kim Jong Un gets sent to the gulag, or is killed outright. That is the BVKS idea of freedom?

What? Worse! The BVKS program has a bunch of three years old ISKCON children -- who are evidently choosing, deciding and selecting the ISKCON gurus, and often the wrong gurus. Wrong history. The BVKS program is the group that is deciding who will be the ISKCON gurus for these children, and then they are coercing, forcing and making these three years old ISKCON children accept the gurus that are voted in -- and hand approved and selected -- by the BVKS crew. 

These children do not get to decide anything, they have had the BVKS false gurus crammed down their throats by the BVKS crew. And a number of these children then ended up being starved, beaten, molested and treated like "being in camp Auschwitz" -- according to some of the victims of the BVKS process. 

When the GBC says, "this is the guru for this temple" (or this gurukula) -- we either accept -- or get tossed out on our ear, lucky if we survive without getting beaten to a pulp by BVKS goonda's guru program for "making offenses" to their gurus. And BVKS is against the ritviks, because they are pointing out that many children in the BVKS system are being starved, beaten, molested, and then they are maybe committing suicide. So we cannot hear from these "critics." He is making the choice for the children, chop off the legs of the protest of their mistreatment.

OK and when did Srila Prabhupda say he wants the three years old children, or the new people off the street, to be in charge of selecting the gurus for ISKCON's guru parampara -- in the first place? That makes no sense at all, the three years old children, or the new guy off the street, is going to be deciding who is going to be the guru of ISKCON's parampara. And if the three years old children are choosing the wrong gurus, it is not our problem. The victims made the wrong choice, after we had some people beaten to a pulp for disagreeing to accept that same bogus guru that we voted in. 

That is insane! No, BVKS and his pals are "2/3's show of hands voting" and selecting these gurus for the children and for all the ISKCON citizens, and then telling the citizens -- these are ISKCON's gurus. And those of us who try to help people avoid the BVKS hand selected bogus gurus are often banned, beaten, chased with baseball bats, sued and -- maybe killed, for trying to guide people to a proper guru, and away from their cheater gurus. This is not free choice whatsoever, anyone who disagrees is banned, beaten, sued, or shot. Where is the free choice here?

And yes, all this trouble would have been avoided by keeping Srila Prabhupada as the guru, but they insisted on making their sexual predator, drunks, drug addicts and machine gun swami pals into their gurus. And now they are having the same problem with yet another one of their deviated pedophile gurus, namely Lokanath swami. 

And it is always the same problem, their gurus have a sexual predatory tendency, just like many of their other gurus have had repeatedly. Same old same old. But Lokanath is the guru now because his followers made the wrong choice. Yet, the followers are now saying they were never told he is a sexual predator, so how could they make the right choice when the BVKS program is misleading, ok lying to them?

PADA: Ambarish does not seem to recognize that a big building is not going to be impressive if the children of the religion are mainly alienated from the religion. We already have many big empty ISKCON buildings. Most of the adult ex-kids here in San Francisco area totally avoid and boycott ISKCON and some -- or most -- of them are alienated from the religion, some eat meat etc. 

They are basically done with the whole thing. 

It is devastating to them -- they got a bad guru, were treated badly, they tell me no one cared, etc. They tell me they were sometimes dressed up with nice clean dhoti and tilak for photo ops, and then they were treated badly as soon as the photo op session ended. They tell me they were being used as money collecting photo op props, and they knew it. 

It is much deeper than just getting a bad guru, they got bad everything, at least that is what they report to me. And as soon as I advocated for the children, I was banned, assaulted, chased with baseball bats, threatened with death etc. This is a much deeper problem than just getting a bad guru. A big building is not going to solve these issues one iota. ys pd

V DASA: But in a thousand years people might say that Ambarish and Bhavananda made this building.

PADA: Gurukripa's name has been on a plaque at the Vrndavana temple as one of the big contributors, he says it really does not matter, they don't give him an iota of respect there now. Having a big name on a plaque is not going to re-write their history. 

Their history will be known in a thousand years, and already is known pretty much all over the world by many people. Those people worldwide will present the factual history to others, and so on and so forth. It will not be possible to re-write it since the info is currently too widely spread over too wide an area. Their history will precede them. And our history, did some "dissenters" try to rectify all this, will also be known thousands of years from now. ys pd

GPD: Seriously prabhus, we should never ever think of putting big buildings and or abusive people before the welfare of our children -- or the reputation of iskcon or Srila Prabhupada, let alone actually putting this particular big building ahead of all other considerations. We keep the abusers before we consider the welfare of the good name of God, and the so called welfare of humanity, as PADA says: the public already know what is going on, its all over the internet. Many new people are seriously put off by what has happened and bad stuff that is currently supported by management. Changing and correcting their preaching is what is needed, not making another big building. 

CK: I totally agree iskcon is all about false PR rubbish and don't care a fig for the abused and used devotees, in Ireland most of the devotees who gave their youth for the Yatra are just ignored and neglected, they don't give money so are considered useless -- such cruel and heartless behaviour is the way they operate like a despot society, we must all see it like it is and speak the truth. ISKCON is guilty of the story of the fool who has a big golden cage with a beautiful bird inside, and he polishes the cage but neglects to feed the bird inside, it dies and he's left with an empty gold cage, useless just for show! So they want a big building, but everyone else is running away from them full speed due to their awful behavior and guru posing.

PADA: My friend, who is a police officer, says ISKCON is the classic "smash and grab" model of crime -- where the crooks will steal from the victim, and destroy the victim's storefront that they are stealing from, simultaneously. He says there used to be a huge crowd here and now there is nobody left. That is the typical result of smash and grab criminals. ys pd

RPD: Looks like His Holiness Lokanath has 'fallen' upwards, defying the laws of gravity (as befits a 'purest of the pure' devotee). I hear he's in demand for selfies at the TOVP celebrations in Mayapur.

SD: A friend of mine in Mayapur said there are many teenage girls gushing over him, unbeknownst that he molested a girl a few years younger than them.

PB: That can't be good.

PADA: It is another one of BVKS's pedo-fests. BVKS evidently loves to see pedophiles being worshiped as good as God, it make him feel ecstatic to know he is dragging the human society to hell along with him. Or what?