Good, except Patita Pavan das (Miles Davis) came to Berkeley to have us pray for the rapid recovery of Kirtanananda after he was hit with a pipe. And at the time KS was sitting on a golden throne covered with the hands of many boys, which a news lady said is "pedophile heaven." Umm, Patita Pavan das wanted us to pray to -- save pedophile heaven?
And he still supports Indradyumna swami, video above.
At 61 Second Avenue, April 1969. Patita Pavana on the far left next to Mr. Malkani, one of the first Indians to join Prabhupada in the West. l. to r. Lilavati, Brahmananda, Karunamoya, Yamunacharya, Srila Prabhupada, Nanda Kishore, Kirtanananda, Subala, Vamanadeva and Indira just married, Purushottama, Jayadwaita and Rasananda.
At 61 Second Avenue, April 1969. Patita Pavana on the far left next to Mr. Malkani, one of the first Indians to join Prabhupada in the West. l. to r. Lilavati, Brahmananda, Karunamoya, Yamunacharya, Srila Prabhupada, Nanda Kishore, Kirtanananda, Subala, Vamanadeva and Indira just married, Purushottama, Jayadwaita and Rasananda.
He joined ISKCON in 1967 at 26 Second Avenue. In his first few years within the movement, he served in NYC, San Francisco, New Mexico, Los Angeles, NYC again, Boston, New Vrindavan, and with ISKCON Press.
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Then, after Patita Pavan das promotes his favorite pedophile's guru's programs, and he chops the legs off our protest of the molesting by saying we are bogus ritviks, he now claims he is alarmed and upset at all the subsequent molesting and victimizing of children -- in the very same program -- he is cheer leading?
Wait! But you are a prime cheer leader of the molesting empire, which is called Auschiwitz for kids by -- some of the kids. You are one of the Joseph Goebbels propagandists for the regime, and then you claim to be upset at the result?
Meanwhile your guru for the molester messiah's program in Mayapura -- Jayapataka -- looks like he got hit by a train, because you guys said that people like him can take karma, as if they are another Jesus? Your advice is killing these people, never mind creating an industrial level molesting empire. Now Joe Goebbels cannot understand what went wrong, when he is one of the people who grabbed the steering wheel and made the bus load of kids go over the cliff?
Dear Lokanatha Maharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Shrila Prabhupada. I am sure you will remember me from Hare Krishna Land in the 1970s where I was serving Prabhupada when you joined along with your cousin Gaurasundar.
There is a great problem, and the problem is you. Maharaja, you have gotten yourself into a barrel of chile achar pickle and the only one who can extract you from the swamp is you. You have to come forward and do the right thing. Bow out gracefully.
You are basically check-mated in this chess game by a lady devotee who is fed up with ISKCON's sheltering and supporting child molesters. Is there any flaw in the tigress who will lay down her life to defend her cubs?
Maharaja, mothers -- especially ISKCON mothers -- are fed up with ISKCON's sheltering of pedophiles. And, they have been fed up for decades, who listens to them? Well, now they will have to listen because this lady is not going to go away. So the leaders must do the needful. When there is gangrene there is only one cure.
There is a great problem, and the problem is you. Maharaja, you have gotten yourself into a barrel of chile achar pickle and the only one who can extract you from the swamp is you. You have to come forward and do the right thing. Bow out gracefully.
You are basically check-mated in this chess game by a lady devotee who is fed up with ISKCON's sheltering and supporting child molesters. Is there any flaw in the tigress who will lay down her life to defend her cubs?
Maharaja, mothers -- especially ISKCON mothers -- are fed up with ISKCON's sheltering of pedophiles. And, they have been fed up for decades, who listens to them? Well, now they will have to listen because this lady is not going to go away. So the leaders must do the needful. When there is gangrene there is only one cure.
A WOMAN SENDS THIS TO PADA
These people supported the GBC gurus,
which ruined our lives.
Why are there no women here?
We already know why!
[PADA: That is good. Where are the men? Why hasn't Patita Pavan been the lion taking charge of removing these pedophiles? Why is a woman having to be the head of the steering committee to remove this deviant? And why does Patita Pavan das have a history of supporting other pedophiles like Kirtanananda, and his little girl obsessed self-described "good friend" Indradyumna swami.]
Have you seen that this righteously angry woman has dug up some very incriminating evidence? Her site should be searched!
Did the GBC actually recommend that you get some sort of "proper sexual understanding" counseling from a bogus firm that merely drained money from the public (and from ISKCON) all because of you? The documentation is all there on the site.
[PADA: Yep, when the GBC hires experts to defend one of their own, you need to ask what is going on here?]
Please deny it if it is untrue. And I doubt I will get a response on that one.
Whether the letter discussed in posts above was written by you, or one of your colleagues on the Guardians Beyond Comprehension committee (GBC), what is really important, in this case, is the other letter. And by that, I mean the letter that was written by Satya. Why would this grown-up lady write such a description of any activities that took place when she was eleven, if it was not true?
You have been posturing as some sort of victim in this case. Actually, all members of Prabhupada's world movement are victims when those who defile the most innocent among us--our sacred offspring--are victimized and left without shelter.
[PADA: Well yep, the whole ISKCON society is a victim when pedophiles are being posted as its gurus.]
Shrila Prabhupada spoke of demigods from Swarga-loka above taking birth among his married disciples. And, it has actually happened, also. But a child molester destroys the opportunity of the heart of that demigod ever blooming like a lotus flower. A victim of child molestation suffers due to feelings of uncleanliness and guilt caused by the violation of his or her rights as an innocent reflection of God in childhood.
We know from the victim mentioned in this case, Satya, about what went on. We hear her and believe her.
And regarding your letter. No doubt someone helped you write it because it does not reflect your personality. This does not mean that it is not true. It is just, shall we say, "over-edited." For politicians, the great crime is not the crime. The great crime is getting caught. You were caught, so someone twisted your arm and you were forced to oblige with a signature.
Although you must have signed it, by doing so, you signed your life away. So pick up the pieces and get back to your real service which we will discuss. Anyone who has studied the behavior of predators will tell you that touching often begins a long-term forced relationship that only leads to adult psychosis for the victim.
But, if you are a victim Maharaja, you are a victim of your own doings. Since Shrila Prabhupada left our mortal vision you have been the
Have you seen that this righteously angry woman has dug up some very incriminating evidence? Her site should be searched!
Did the GBC actually recommend that you get some sort of "proper sexual understanding" counseling from a bogus firm that merely drained money from the public (and from ISKCON) all because of you? The documentation is all there on the site.
[PADA: Yep, when the GBC hires experts to defend one of their own, you need to ask what is going on here?]
Please deny it if it is untrue. And I doubt I will get a response on that one.
Whether the letter discussed in posts above was written by you, or one of your colleagues on the Guardians Beyond Comprehension committee (GBC), what is really important, in this case, is the other letter. And by that, I mean the letter that was written by Satya. Why would this grown-up lady write such a description of any activities that took place when she was eleven, if it was not true?
You have been posturing as some sort of victim in this case. Actually, all members of Prabhupada's world movement are victims when those who defile the most innocent among us--our sacred offspring--are victimized and left without shelter.
[PADA: Well yep, the whole ISKCON society is a victim when pedophiles are being posted as its gurus.]
Shrila Prabhupada spoke of demigods from Swarga-loka above taking birth among his married disciples. And, it has actually happened, also. But a child molester destroys the opportunity of the heart of that demigod ever blooming like a lotus flower. A victim of child molestation suffers due to feelings of uncleanliness and guilt caused by the violation of his or her rights as an innocent reflection of God in childhood.
We know from the victim mentioned in this case, Satya, about what went on. We hear her and believe her.
And regarding your letter. No doubt someone helped you write it because it does not reflect your personality. This does not mean that it is not true. It is just, shall we say, "over-edited." For politicians, the great crime is not the crime. The great crime is getting caught. You were caught, so someone twisted your arm and you were forced to oblige with a signature.
Although you must have signed it, by doing so, you signed your life away. So pick up the pieces and get back to your real service which we will discuss. Anyone who has studied the behavior of predators will tell you that touching often begins a long-term forced relationship that only leads to adult psychosis for the victim.
But, if you are a victim Maharaja, you are a victim of your own doings. Since Shrila Prabhupada left our mortal vision you have been the
- chemistry student who became a monk,
- you have been a deliverer of Bhagavata-saptas which few listened to,
- you have become an "author" though you have no literary ability,
- you have posed as a paramahamsa demanding that your every word be recorded,
- you have been a scholar teaching Sanskrit.
Incidentally, I have two daughters who are wonderful devotees, and from watching the loving care their mother (my beloved wife) has brought them up with, I begin to shake with anger at the thought of an older man who defiles a little girl.
[PADA: Well we can see the look of horror on the faces of some of the ladies as Indradyumna man-handles their little girls.]
- you have become an "author" though you have no literary ability,
- you have posed as a paramahamsa demanding that your every word be recorded,
- you have been a scholar teaching Sanskrit.
Incidentally, I have two daughters who are wonderful devotees, and from watching the loving care their mother (my beloved wife) has brought them up with, I begin to shake with anger at the thought of an older man who defiles a little girl.
[PADA: Well we can see the look of horror on the faces of some of the ladies as Indradyumna man-handles their little girls.]
In India, even the Devi Pujakas, worshippers of the Goddess Mother, and who are strict followers of Stri Dharma and chaste Vedic culture understand that a pre-pubescent girl is like a goddess herself. A true brahmachary or sannyasi can never think of molesting such a true goddess because his eyes are on her feet. When even demigod worshipers understand these things, why can't Vaishnava sannyasis?
Prabhupada knew very well that you are a village boy and not some great chemist-Sanskrit scholar-guru. So His Divine Grace sent you on the bullock carts all over India.
JUST GO BACK TO FOLLOWING THIS ORDER.
That order alone can save you. Get some strong bulls and whoever remains from among your diminishing flock, hit the road. Get some people who admire whatever good things you have done to accompany you.
Sit down tight in the cart and travel down the middle road of India -- right down my old Dharma Road -- National Highway 7. Travel all the way from the Vindhyas and the virgin Narmada to the holy virgin Goddess Devi Kanya Kumari. This is the Road of the Devi and it is her forgiveness you need because you have offended her representative, an innocent girl, a child.
If you wish to domicile (that means "live somewhere"), then build a thatched hut behind that temple you built in your hometown and sit on a piece of wood and chant Hare Krishna.
Stop your cut-and-paste guru charade. You should realize that the show is over. There has never been any instance of any genuine Gaudiya acharya having been accused of such a thing as you are being accused.
So, just for the sake of the purity of the sampradaya, you must step far, far away. Stop being a pretender and try to live up to the proper rigors of the ashram of the 4th order which you have accepted. Take on a mood of penance rather than victimization and denial.
Stop trying to play with every toy in the room like a child in kindergarten. Prabhupada knew what a villager you are, and that is why he sent you with the bulls. There is nothing wrong with that. That is what is needed, rural life. You are a born farmer. How many of your city slicker disciples grow food?
If you do not go back to the bullock carts, then your problem will continue to haunt you. What is there to save you from going to the hell where the unqualified poser gurus have all gone before you? If you do not repent, then your thousands of followers may also follow you down.
I have described National Highway 7 as the Devi Road because it is right in the middle of India, the great birthplace of mankind. So take this road of the Mother Goddess in a mood of repentance. Get free from your past mistakes, and the problems you have created for yourself. Follow Shrila Prabhupada instead of reinventing yourself again. People see through your ruse and that is why the Good Boys Committee wants you out.
Get out the bulls and everyone will be satisfied. Even you will be satisfied because ...
THE ORDER OF YOUR SPIRITUAL MASTER CAN NEVER BE SEPARATED FROM THE DISCIPLE.
As the Beatles said, "Get back to where you once belonged."
Wishing you all the best, I am
Your servant,
Patita Pavana dasa Adhikary
Prabhupada knew very well that you are a village boy and not some great chemist-Sanskrit scholar-guru. So His Divine Grace sent you on the bullock carts all over India.
JUST GO BACK TO FOLLOWING THIS ORDER.
That order alone can save you. Get some strong bulls and whoever remains from among your diminishing flock, hit the road. Get some people who admire whatever good things you have done to accompany you.
Sit down tight in the cart and travel down the middle road of India -- right down my old Dharma Road -- National Highway 7. Travel all the way from the Vindhyas and the virgin Narmada to the holy virgin Goddess Devi Kanya Kumari. This is the Road of the Devi and it is her forgiveness you need because you have offended her representative, an innocent girl, a child.
If you wish to domicile (that means "live somewhere"), then build a thatched hut behind that temple you built in your hometown and sit on a piece of wood and chant Hare Krishna.
Stop your cut-and-paste guru charade. You should realize that the show is over. There has never been any instance of any genuine Gaudiya acharya having been accused of such a thing as you are being accused.
So, just for the sake of the purity of the sampradaya, you must step far, far away. Stop being a pretender and try to live up to the proper rigors of the ashram of the 4th order which you have accepted. Take on a mood of penance rather than victimization and denial.
Stop trying to play with every toy in the room like a child in kindergarten. Prabhupada knew what a villager you are, and that is why he sent you with the bulls. There is nothing wrong with that. That is what is needed, rural life. You are a born farmer. How many of your city slicker disciples grow food?
If you do not go back to the bullock carts, then your problem will continue to haunt you. What is there to save you from going to the hell where the unqualified poser gurus have all gone before you? If you do not repent, then your thousands of followers may also follow you down.
I have described National Highway 7 as the Devi Road because it is right in the middle of India, the great birthplace of mankind. So take this road of the Mother Goddess in a mood of repentance. Get free from your past mistakes, and the problems you have created for yourself. Follow Shrila Prabhupada instead of reinventing yourself again. People see through your ruse and that is why the Good Boys Committee wants you out.
Get out the bulls and everyone will be satisfied. Even you will be satisfied because ...
THE ORDER OF YOUR SPIRITUAL MASTER CAN NEVER BE SEPARATED FROM THE DISCIPLE.
As the Beatles said, "Get back to where you once belonged."
Wishing you all the best, I am
Your servant,
Patita Pavana dasa Adhikary
[PADA: Good, but Indradyumna is a member of their club and his program is the same, neophytes, or even deviants, posturing as acharyas. ys pd]
LD: Oh great. We should pray to God to remove one brain tumor ... which is killing us ... and pray to God to save the other brain tumor ... killing us as well. And we don't know why the body is still sick? And God is confused ... you mean I need to remove one tumor and save the others?
ReplyDeleteAnd everyone else is confused as well ... what is this?
Oh yeah ... a young woman has to take the leadership against the pedophiles because the big important senior men ... like Patita Pavan das ... could not ... would not ... did not ... in all this time. So a younger mother has to do his job for him. He is the senior "man" ... he should be doing the "manly man" leading the army all this time since 1978 ... not the mothers.
Instead ... he has been praying to keep perverted idiots like Kirtanananda ... one of the worst of all of them. They are fighting their own shadow. We remove this tumor ... and pray to save all the rest of the tumors.
I know this Patit prabhu still likes Indradyumna and they are all part of their guru club ... we remove one person from the club while saving the other members of the club ... that's the whole problem ... all along. And Patit prabhu says bad things about the ritviks ... because the ritviks are not worshiping his other pedophile's guru's club friends like Indradyumna. He is with them all along and still is ... he is only putting a band aid on the cancer.
I think maybe he is with them because they gave given him a younger wife and a post ... of astrology authority in Eastern Europe ... where he can fools people with his bogus astrology business. I could be wrong ... but this does not look good all along ... him being in their club. At least he is saying something now ... only after the house has burnt to the ground. He is right ... the women had to take charge ... while he has been sitting with the other club's members ... and he says the ritviks are bogus ... because they want to worship a pure devotee and not their pedophile's club members.
Another hypocrite IMHO.
MD: My friend who lives in Eastern Europe wrote to Bhakti Vikas in confidence ... for help with her problems with the temple authorities. Bhakti vikas forwarded her letter ... direct to the temple authorities ... making her a big target of harassing.
ReplyDeleteThat is what happens when you trust these people ... same that Patita pavan das trusts ... you get ratted out ... and now you are in worse condition than if you'd never said anything.
What is the message? Don't ever complain about anything ... we do not have your back ... we will rat you out and make you even more miserable and vulnerable.
And the problems never get fixed. Don't feed milk to a snake ... it just bites you better ... and you are dead. Why does Patit Pavan das associate with them? He is bird of a feather with them. Now he is acting like a hero ... because the women cleared the mine fields first. He has to walk behind the women and let them blow up the mines first ... then when he thinks the coast is clear ... he runs up to save things. Pathetic ISKCON man.
PADA: Corect CJD, Patita Pavan das says Bhakti Vikas is doing great work. But they are all helping Basu Ghosh keep Lokanath there. This is great preaching work? These people are simply making pretend they are helping us ... while they are helping them at the same time.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder ISKCON is such a basket case ... these people are not capable of making a moral decision. They make pretend they are helping us ... then stick it to us. Also not surprised Bhakti Vikas swami has some poor woman write to him about her temple troubles ... then he sends her letter to the temple leaders to ruin her life.
They are a club. I see where he was defending Indradyumna and Bhakti Vikas swami. He has not come clean ... and he makes fun of worship of Prabhupada as the bogus ritvik idea ... which is what Kirtanananda and Ravindra were always saying. He is still quoting Kirtanananda? Kirtanananda says the ritviks are bogus, and Patita Pavava is still quoting that man as his authority? Hee hee, right, he is another compromiser.