Bhakti Raghava Disciple V.S. PADA / Brief Discussion

And then it came to pass: the GBC found another Jesus!

And their self-styled Jesus likes to bury pedophiles 

and porno swamis

in the holy dham! 

[PADA: A disciple of Bhakti Raghava swami came out to challenge PADA, but he was unable to answer my first question, "how can neophytes absorb sins like Jesus"? He said he could not answer because he "would be making offenses to someone." What? We cannot even explain how neophytes can take sins like Jesus without making offenses? OK there is no explanation, and he was just trying to slip out of making a reply.

Then he said Bhakti Raghava swami is spotless himself, even if the other GBC's gurus are not. Wait! Bhakti Raghava swami is a participant in an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, but he is himself innocent. How does that work? 

I am in the garbage pail that stinks like rotten garbage, I am promoting this rotten garbage pail to be "as pure as God -- and God's guru parampara" -- but I am not smelling like stinking garbage myself personally? Same thing Bhakti Vikas followers tell me, yep the rest of the GBC guru parampara stinks to high heaven, but BVKS does not? 

I am a big corporate director on the cigarette company's board of directors, but I am not part of the problem of people getting cancer, that is caused by the other directors? Hee hee, really?  

Then I said -- when neophytes take sins they can get sick, fall down and die prematurely, so Bhakti Raghava swami should not be encouraging other neophytes to take sins -- and then fail. Same thing, he said that is not a problem because the GBC should decide if someone wants to be guru or not, it is not Bhakti Raghava's decision. 

OK but he is encouraging that system, he is participating in that system, so he is causing blind men to fall into a ditch, never mind the followers do not get their sins absolved. I am a promoter of that system, I am a participant in that system, but I am not responsible for the results of that system?

OK then he stopped communicating. Told ya! ys pd]

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S DASI: ISKCON leaders endorse Lokanath because he has followers.  Lokanath has followers, because ISKCON leaders endorse him.  Who still stop the cycle?

MD: <Who still stop the cycle?

Probably the only thing will be a public expose Netflix video similar to 'Wild Wild Country' that was made on Osho.

I can imagine if the Doc. video was based on the series of books by Henry Doktorski 3rd and then broadened out to include all the abuse scenarios, then maybe the public shaming of the institution 'may' bring the 'cycle' to an end.

S DASI: I was told recently that there is a documentary being made, based on Monkey on a Stick. Production started before the pandemic, paused during the pandemic, and is now picking up again.

MD: There's already been a terrible doc. made based on 'Monkey on a Stick'. Hrishikesh das's books are far more well researched and damming.

S DASI: Yes, there was a Monkey on a Stick book published in the 90s. This is a new film that's being made, based on the book. Maybe the film people should, or are, talking with Henry Doktorski III. 

MD: The problem was that 'Monkey on a Stick' was only partially accurate. And Doktorski covers much more ground with his whole series of expose books.

 J DASI: Who will stop the cycle? Not u.

RP: S Dasi's tenacity to pursue this in the face of attacks and intimidation is admirable. Never once has she lost her temper or poise despite great provocation. She has understood what upholding Dharma entails better than any of the “ACBSP” label wearing charlatans masquerading as “senior disciples.” 

How many of these ACBS-Pians have spoken up on the Lokanath issue? This is clearly a Dharmic issue that affects the very core of the movement they are part of, and they can’t hide behind “it is not my business” or the “matter is under GBC purview.” Everyone, including non-ISKCON people, knows what GBC is all about.

Looking at these cowards, I’m reminded of a line from a beautiful Indian Classical Music composition my guru wrote and composed on the Draupadi vastraharana episode:

Soor sabha saba kroor vhai baithe

(The entire assembly, blind and insensitive, sits back doing nothing)

AC Dasi: Full dandavats to her shes taken on an incredible task.May truth and purity shine bright

 GD. Dasi: Humility, is often misunderstood to mean that we don’t take stand for what is right, and expose what’s wrong, for fear of offending someone. Cowardice…Remember Arjuna was fighting and killing and he was the most humble..surrendered.

We shouldn’t be afraid of the consequences of speaking the truth. Yes there is diplomatic methods but when they fail, then argument fighting is sometimes forced as the only way. When a calm voice is ignored it becomes a roar. When a spark is not extinguished it becomes a burning ember then a forest fire. GBC have higher responsibility to be vigilant and take right action. So do the Sanyasis.. because they represent a whole movement.

PD: It is their same excuse every time. Oh no! We cannot get rid of Jayatirtha because he has followers, and so does Bhagavan, and so does Hansadutta, and so does Harikesh, and so on and so on. The cycle has been going on all along. It is just that now more people are waking up and objecting, or just abandoning their ship. The cycle will be broken by exposing them-- to the point their new recruits dry up. And that is happening gradually, because they can barely recruit anyone for example around here in San Francisco area at present. They dried up their sources of converts, and their sources will dry up more and more - gradually -- elsewhere as well, over time. Meanwhile, more people are joining in us in protesting. Time is on our side. ys pd

GD. Dasi: Humility, is often misunderstood to mean that we don’t take stand for what is right, and expose what’s wrong, for fear of offending someone. Cowardice…Remember Arjuna was fighting and killing and he was the most humble..surrendered.

We shouldn’t be afraid of the consequences of speaking the truth. Yes there is diplomatic methods but when they fail, then argument fighting is sometimes forced as the only way. When a calm voice is ignored it becomes a roar. When a spark is not extinguished it becomes a burning ember then a forest fire. GBC have higher responsibility to be vigilant and take right action. So do the Sanyasis.. because they represent a whole movement.

Vaikuntha has gate keepers, …where are the gate keepers of Prabhupadas ISKCON? Even apartment buildings have security codes and guards to prevent criminals from entering..

Criminals are attracted to opulence and success and will always lurk around for selfish gains/opportunities posing as one of flock. Everyone has to be vigilant but especially the leaders

MD#2: He will never represent Transcendental truth. He, like all the rest of his ilk in the GBC, with full blessings continue to be diametrically opposed with that topmost reality. His false claim to represent Prabhupada's movement in light of his admitted previous actions in child abuse makes him an embarrassment to the wider Vaisnava community and this is why he must be considered for who he is . By Kali's Grace anyone can take on the dress of a sanyasi and with political and institutional support pose as a guru . As long as they have blind followers I doubt that the GBC will ever take action. Followers means money and together they provide a perfect power base to continue.

RP DASA: Isn't the ploy clear? Their GBC idea is to mainstream LNS as much as possible and provide him political 'kavach.' He's the darling Prahalad the 'GBC-Narasimha' is protecting from all you Hiranyakashipus. 

In India this maneuvore is known as "regularization," a phrase used extensively in the construction industry over there. You start out by building something illegally and then get it set retroactively 'regularized,' first by bribing politicians and then once it lands in the courts, by greasing the palms there. In due course the illegality is forgotten and everyone lives happily thereafter. That is how it is done in India.

S DASI: Regularizing, normalizing, endorsing, accepting a child molester as a guru endorsed by my society. No thanks.

RP DASA: Just yesterday a senior Prabhupada disciple (he flaunts the label ACBSP) got all hot under the collar and declared he would banish me from his Facebook page because, he claimed, I had “insulted” Prabhupada. All because I had corrected someone who had misattributed a Tulsidas quote to Chanakya and pointed out how selective quotes could be used to malign any great man, including Prabhupada.

One thing the ISKCON senior fossils hate more than anything else is being told they are full of it (especially when they are full of it). Besides, what am I to do? Hindus have a long tradition of scolding even our Gods to say nothing of poking mild fun at our acharyas. In any case, what amused me was the virtue-signaling. These guys, like most ACBS-Pians, are quick to take offense at slights, imagined or real, aimed at Prabhupada but are absolutely tongue-tied on the sordid Lokanath episode (which, presumably, is not at all insulting to Prabhupada).

[PADA: Yes, as soon as someone says pedophiles are not Krishna and Srila Prabhupada's guru successors, all sorts of so-called ACBS disciples start to attack me for "making offenses." And as soon as someone says pedophiles are molesting ISKCON's children left, right and center the same crowd says "you are trying to destroy ISKCON" etc. Yep, heard it all before hundreds of time. Many ACBS are full of BS -- and that is why they defend the pedophile messiahs project. The good news is ??? -- evidently -- these fossils are leaving the planet more and more? Hee hee! ys pd]    

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