What Child Molesting Problem?
[PADA: Making good progress with a nice young student type "new devotee" in India. This person really digests all the info nicely and it a regular PADA reader. At the same time, this young person is very frightened of the Lokanath regime in India. This person and their friend are already victims of cyber bullying, and they are worried the Lokanath goons will hunt them down -- and do violence. Why would anyone have to fear for their lives from "Vaishnavas"?
Yup. What we said over and over, Lokanath is the leader of a violent pedophile worship cult that bans, beats, sues, molests and -- kills vaishnavas. This person -- agrees. We said they are dangerous pedophile worship lovers -- supported by their India ICC anal reconstructive surgery epidemic bureau hand maidens -- and more and more people are agreeing.
Anyway, here are some comments from a few other other folks. We also cannot print some of the over the top language from some folks who sent me their comments, we are trying to stay away from foul language -- although we understand the sentiment.]
There is a saying in the west that "Caesar's Wife Must be Above Suspicion,"---people "take one for the team" and leave organizations and missions they deeply care about *because they care about them*, when there is some much lesser scandal. I hope that Lokanath Swami can find the humility to serve his Srila Gurudev in the same way that so many ordinary people have served so many ordinary causes.
RSD: It's just plain wrong.
JO: Good cause
LT: It doesn't matter how long ago he molested a child, he is NOW exposed and must be removed, and also be brought to criminal court.
Chas D Lind
I've always loved Lokanatha Swami kirtans and association, I always will.
Though, at this juncture and what I've been informed with disheartens me.
Even if this is a once-in-a-lifetime nuance from ignorant decisions, this Saddhu must reproach and redeem the vows he's taken.
Management also may be implicated in his demise for leadership needs to honor its dharma, no matter what. Forgive, yes, forget... no. Let the lesson be stern, so he may return to the service he's earned. Justice will provide the foundation to re-build all. lives.
[PADA: Thanks Chas. After giving me years of snarly and snarky comments, which of course aids and abets the molester messiah's project and not the victims, you are finally agreeing with us. Yup! This has to stop. Correct! Entire ISKCON and its management is implicated in promoting a pedophile as God's successor, and it contaminates the whole society.
RSD: It's just plain wrong.
JO: Good cause
LT: It doesn't matter how long ago he molested a child, he is NOW exposed and must be removed, and also be brought to criminal court.
Chas D Lind
I've always loved Lokanatha Swami kirtans and association, I always will.
Though, at this juncture and what I've been informed with disheartens me.
Even if this is a once-in-a-lifetime nuance from ignorant decisions, this Saddhu must reproach and redeem the vows he's taken.
Management also may be implicated in his demise for leadership needs to honor its dharma, no matter what. Forgive, yes, forget... no. Let the lesson be stern, so he may return to the service he's earned. Justice will provide the foundation to re-build all. lives.
[PADA: Thanks Chas. After giving me years of snarly and snarky comments, which of course aids and abets the molester messiah's project and not the victims, you are finally agreeing with us. Yup! This has to stop. Correct! Entire ISKCON and its management is implicated in promoting a pedophile as God's successor, and it contaminates the whole society.
Of course protecting predators and pedophiles does not reflect only on top tier management, it reflects on many rank and file who also enable this.
Bhaktin M just wrote to say -- how could thousands of child victims have happened -- with none of the leaders or parents taking this to the police? Ever? This looks like a "get out of jail free card" for criminals, abusers, pedophiles, predators, and assorted and sundry low class scum buckets to invade ISKCON. What is wrong with these people?]
MAC: Lokanath already acknowledged it. He needs a therapist chair, not a vyasasan chair.
LP: The number one priority here should be child protection. I am signing in support of the victim, who endured sexual and spiritual abuse; unacceptable conduct of someone in an esteemed position as guru.
DD: A person alone should atone for the sin performing. Otherwise there is a painful duty for the leaders to remind him what should be done. Srila Prabhupada said all renounciates should remember how Chota Haridas was rejected by speaking privately with a woman. And here we have a full blown physical attack on a minor. I mean if two adults agree it may be ok, but not for a sanyasi. But to mess up with children -- that's another thing, not to read Manu Samhita or something like this in direction of Dharma Shastras.
DRD: GBC should follow their own rules it set up to follow.
AK: A society that does not protect women and children is doomed. Therefore we must clean Srila Prabhupada's house.
ASD: Lokanath das was never authorized by Srila Prabhupada to become a Diksa Guru in ISKCON, and by his self-admitted "sexual abuse" of a VAISNAVA CHILD (while posing as guru and sannyasi) Lokanath certainly proved that he is not at all qualified for this very advanced spiritual role. According to sastra such a bogus guru should be rejected by all his disciples, and no one should support him as a guru. This is another proof that the whole concocted guru system in the hijacked ISKCON was never authorized by its saintly Founder Srila Prabhupada who is actual current spiritual master for his Society as per his clear instructions that he personally gave in 1977.
DN: NO child should ever suffer the trauma of being Abused. This man must be stood down.
S NSJ: I am signing to support.
TC: All bogus guru must be removed immediately. Bringing shame to Srila Prabhupada and Srila Prabhupada's organization. Gives a bad name to Krishna the Krishna Consciousness movement. Please retreat yourself if you have repented!
A guru will never make such "mistakes"! No drugs mistakes, no rape and molest mistakes, no illicit sex mistakes...
SKM: An adult person taking a child's innocence is so selfish!
RS: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu wanted it, none should misbehave with devotees.
PW: I was abused by my father who was also in a position of authority in Iskcon Bhubaneswar and reported it to authorities there. They did not do a proper investigation and the abuse just continued and I was even more terrified he would kill us if I ever spoke out again. Iskcon failed me.
LG: It’s a complicated issue. There is a lack of understanding about the consequences of child abuse. I want Iskcon to do better. These conversations are hard but they are what is required to change the consciousness of our devotees. We all need to understand clearly what the standards are.
KM: Figure Heads of our Krishna Consciousness society should not be given a free pass by ISKCON to abuse children.
ML: I'm signing because I'm a former devotee. In 31 years, I have seen it all -- except maybe murder -- but I am sure I read about it. You have to be a basic human before aspiring to transcendence. A basic human doesn't support a child abuser.
CB: We are all sick and tired and going basically insane trying to understand how ISKCON continues to glorify child abusers when the rest of the world has woken up to this horrific plight! Get with the program!!! Prabhupad would be horrified!!!!
GH: This is an affront to Srila Prabhupada's mission and a wound in the body of Vaishnava sangas everywhere. He should not be allowed to stay in this position, or any position, after this behavior. What kind of integrity does this reflect that he is still acting as a guru after all these years? He needs to be removed. Do it now. --Satya devi dasi (ACBSP)
CP: We should never remain silent in the face of child abuse. Ever. I am shocked and saddened that this is still going on in ISKCON -- and even though I am no longer an active part of the community -- I refuse to stand by and watch this continue.
DM: I support this petition. Please review, sign and share my son's petition to Dell. Please help! Thank you and God bless https://chng.it/7jKzphDD
SD: As a mother of 3 young children, in a family who is actively involved with ISKCON, and has been since being born into the movement, I want to see action is taken with child abusers within ISKCON. By showing that child abusers are held accountable and that the GBC follow their existing child protection laws, they will give all child abuse cases to their own ISKCON Child Protection Office, with no interference or meddling from the GBC members. This will show that the GBC care about the children in their society.
Personally I am not very encouraged in my Krishna Consciousness when I see someone who has sexually abused a child being adored, revered, and worshipped publicly in our international society, and that some of the leaders say "forget about it, it was a long time ago." The average age for a child sexual abuse victim to come forward is age 52. As soon as we know child abuse happens - whenever it happened - we should act quickly and swiftly - following our own laws - to make sure there is justice.
Yours in the service of international child protection within ISKCON,
Serving Srila Prabhupada and his devotees,
SD
EO: A child molester should not post himself as a spiritual leader, nor should anyone else who tolerates and covers up such actions. It is a disgrace for Iskcon leaders to accept this kinds of behaviour
KS: I long for an iskcon that is safe for children, one that my family can return to.
ML: This Lokanath person is not a good representative of the Society. He should be removed from all positions of honour and authority. ~ Madhumati devi, ACBSP
AS: I’m a mother to a daughter. I cannot fathom in any way, this happening to my daughter. There is nothing that would excuse Lokanaths behaviour. My heart goes out to the victim and her family for enduring this violation of her sacred body, for facing the shame, for dealing with blind religious fanatics who are at the bottom rung of human existence and find scriptures to excuse this pedophile’s actions. There can be no rest until this pedophile fully acknowledges his actions and steps down from being a spiritual leader!!!
MAC: Lokanath already acknowledged it. He needs a therapist chair, not a vyasasan chair.
LP: The number one priority here should be child protection. I am signing in support of the victim, who endured sexual and spiritual abuse; unacceptable conduct of someone in an esteemed position as guru.
DD: A person alone should atone for the sin performing. Otherwise there is a painful duty for the leaders to remind him what should be done. Srila Prabhupada said all renounciates should remember how Chota Haridas was rejected by speaking privately with a woman. And here we have a full blown physical attack on a minor. I mean if two adults agree it may be ok, but not for a sanyasi. But to mess up with children -- that's another thing, not to read Manu Samhita or something like this in direction of Dharma Shastras.
DRD: GBC should follow their own rules it set up to follow.
AK: A society that does not protect women and children is doomed. Therefore we must clean Srila Prabhupada's house.
ASD: Lokanath das was never authorized by Srila Prabhupada to become a Diksa Guru in ISKCON, and by his self-admitted "sexual abuse" of a VAISNAVA CHILD (while posing as guru and sannyasi) Lokanath certainly proved that he is not at all qualified for this very advanced spiritual role. According to sastra such a bogus guru should be rejected by all his disciples, and no one should support him as a guru. This is another proof that the whole concocted guru system in the hijacked ISKCON was never authorized by its saintly Founder Srila Prabhupada who is actual current spiritual master for his Society as per his clear instructions that he personally gave in 1977.
DN: NO child should ever suffer the trauma of being Abused. This man must be stood down.
S NSJ: I am signing to support.
TC: All bogus guru must be removed immediately. Bringing shame to Srila Prabhupada and Srila Prabhupada's organization. Gives a bad name to Krishna the Krishna Consciousness movement. Please retreat yourself if you have repented!
A guru will never make such "mistakes"! No drugs mistakes, no rape and molest mistakes, no illicit sex mistakes...
SKM: An adult person taking a child's innocence is so selfish!
RS: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu wanted it, none should misbehave with devotees.
PW: I was abused by my father who was also in a position of authority in Iskcon Bhubaneswar and reported it to authorities there. They did not do a proper investigation and the abuse just continued and I was even more terrified he would kill us if I ever spoke out again. Iskcon failed me.
LG: It’s a complicated issue. There is a lack of understanding about the consequences of child abuse. I want Iskcon to do better. These conversations are hard but they are what is required to change the consciousness of our devotees. We all need to understand clearly what the standards are.
KM: Figure Heads of our Krishna Consciousness society should not be given a free pass by ISKCON to abuse children.
ML: I'm signing because I'm a former devotee. In 31 years, I have seen it all -- except maybe murder -- but I am sure I read about it. You have to be a basic human before aspiring to transcendence. A basic human doesn't support a child abuser.
CB: We are all sick and tired and going basically insane trying to understand how ISKCON continues to glorify child abusers when the rest of the world has woken up to this horrific plight! Get with the program!!! Prabhupad would be horrified!!!!
GH: This is an affront to Srila Prabhupada's mission and a wound in the body of Vaishnava sangas everywhere. He should not be allowed to stay in this position, or any position, after this behavior. What kind of integrity does this reflect that he is still acting as a guru after all these years? He needs to be removed. Do it now. --Satya devi dasi (ACBSP)
CP: We should never remain silent in the face of child abuse. Ever. I am shocked and saddened that this is still going on in ISKCON -- and even though I am no longer an active part of the community -- I refuse to stand by and watch this continue.
DM: I support this petition. Please review, sign and share my son's petition to Dell. Please help! Thank you and God bless https://chng.it/7jKzphDD
SD: As a mother of 3 young children, in a family who is actively involved with ISKCON, and has been since being born into the movement, I want to see action is taken with child abusers within ISKCON. By showing that child abusers are held accountable and that the GBC follow their existing child protection laws, they will give all child abuse cases to their own ISKCON Child Protection Office, with no interference or meddling from the GBC members. This will show that the GBC care about the children in their society.
Personally I am not very encouraged in my Krishna Consciousness when I see someone who has sexually abused a child being adored, revered, and worshipped publicly in our international society, and that some of the leaders say "forget about it, it was a long time ago." The average age for a child sexual abuse victim to come forward is age 52. As soon as we know child abuse happens - whenever it happened - we should act quickly and swiftly - following our own laws - to make sure there is justice.
Yours in the service of international child protection within ISKCON,
Serving Srila Prabhupada and his devotees,
SD
EO: A child molester should not post himself as a spiritual leader, nor should anyone else who tolerates and covers up such actions. It is a disgrace for Iskcon leaders to accept this kinds of behaviour
KS: I long for an iskcon that is safe for children, one that my family can return to.
ML: This Lokanath person is not a good representative of the Society. He should be removed from all positions of honour and authority. ~ Madhumati devi, ACBSP
AS: I’m a mother to a daughter. I cannot fathom in any way, this happening to my daughter. There is nothing that would excuse Lokanaths behaviour. My heart goes out to the victim and her family for enduring this violation of her sacred body, for facing the shame, for dealing with blind religious fanatics who are at the bottom rung of human existence and find scriptures to excuse this pedophile’s actions. There can be no rest until this pedophile fully acknowledges his actions and steps down from being a spiritual leader!!!
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CH: And those that didn't help, or were the abusers -- committed serious Vaisnava Aparadha. They will suffer the consequences, not just in this life, but their next life, life after life. Anyone that has praised & supported these demons also has to suffer.
Any decent person would NOT have treated our little children kulis horribly like this. These people have had very twisted minds. Quite demonic for certain. Hare krsna! Those people along with Bhavananda, Satadhanya M. now prabhu, Dhanurdar etc. ... all of them are evil twisted mentally & sexually perverted ... Kick them out of Iskcon now!! They are Animals and not Devotees!
SD Dasi: It is amazing to me ... as soon as I touch the topic of bogus gurus in ISKCON, I am not allowed to discuss because "we don't want to give ISKCON a bad name." But you already gave ISKCON a bad name. And when there is a society that promotes pedophiles as its gurus ... that society's "name and fame" just gets worse .... never better. How will the "good name" of a pedophile guru program improve ... by adding more pedophiles?
ReplyDeleteThey are just digging their hole more deeper. Unfortunate also making the name of ISKCON worse. And then ... rascals blame us for making the name bad. The person who is farting badly and asks "who is farting around here." Oh it is you Mr. Rascal ... not us!
Lokanath wanted to be famous and now he is. He is famous for ruining the name of the guru parampara from Prabhupada. He will be forever remembered as the person who wanted to destroy faith in Krishna and guru by all of his cheating, lying and bluffing. And the victim of Lokanath will be remembered as a great hero of ISKCON for her trying to rectify all this ... and save the name of guru and Krishna from these rascals. I am with her ... and all their countless other victims. Every day they upset another victim with some way of cheating or other ... they need to be exposed.