PADA: Lokanath swami's ISKCON ICC Bureau in India says that all of us (which would include our associated people in India) who do not accept the ICC's "illicit sex with men, women and children guru successors to Krishna" program are mlecchas. OK but we have many folks in India / from India who accept our idea that: (A) Krishna is God, so (B) He is pure, and therefore (C) His successors are also pure. Why would the India ICC Bureau claim than all of these India citizens are fallen mlecchas, just because they do not agree that deviants, sexual predators and / or pedophiles are also in the chain of Krishna's successors?
And thus many folks either from India or living now in India agree FULLY with PADA, and thus they do not accept the Lokanath swami ICC idea that debauchees are sometimes, or often, in the chain of gurus from Krishna. And so, when the Lokanath swami / India ICC people say that those of us who do not accept their "oral sex with Taxi drivers in the dham guru parampara from Krishna" are mlecchas -- that includes many India born citizens. They are attacking India citizens and India culture as the mleccha's culture.
That means the Lokanath swami / ISKCON India ICC are saying many people from India -- who are devotees of Krishna -- and who do not accept the India ICC's pedophile guru program, are fallen mlecchas. Why are they saying that the citizens of India -- who do not worship pedophiles as their gurus -- are mlecchas? And apart from that, why is the Lokanath swami's ICC insulting the mlecchas in the first place? Mlecchas do not worship the Lokanath swami / GBC / ICC's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program -- as their gurus. Why do the Lokanath India ICC's folks worship degraded fools is the real question here.
The mlecchas are more advanced than the ICC because they at least worship a pure devotee like Jesus and not the ICC's pedophile messiahs.
Meanwhile!
A newer person from India and now in India, OK an India citizen whom the ICC thinks is a mleccha, writes to say that India's ISKCON ICC is the guru, sadhu, and shastra MAFIA. Anyone who actually quotes guru, sadhu and shastra is called into the office to be given a warning, "we do not discuss these controversies over here." The ICC thinks that quoting the shastra is a forbidden controversy!
He simply asks -- why there has been so many ISKCON gurus since 1978, and most of them are now gone, fallen into scandals. Where did they all go? And then he is called into the office for making a controversy. Why is it a controversy to ask if Krishna's successors are illicit sex deviants, or not?
Well we are not going to allow anyone to answer that question because we have no guru, sadhu or shastra to explain why -- there has never been any blooped out gurus in the history of the parampara for 5,000 years -- but now all of a sudden there are a huge pile of blooped out gurus left, right and center. In other words, the India ICC has no guru, sadhu and shastra to back up their activities, but they will get in your face and aggressively insist you don't ask about these things in ISKCON.
OK it is run like the MAFIA.
And another person from India tells PADA he thinks there are real links to the India GBC / ICC bureau and the real India drugs and prostitutes MAFIA, land MAFIA etc. going on over there. And he says that is why lots of people are afraid to challenge them. One PADA associate in India said he was getting threats as soon as they found out he was posting things online. The good news is, he knew some actual goondas and they told the GBC / ICC people too cool their jets or they would be in real trouble, so he was able to survive intact. But why would anyone need to be friends with goondas in order to live peacefully in India?
Meanwhile PADA's Vrndavana citizen associates also said they are appalled the India ICC Bureau is burying pedophiles in samadhi in the dham, but they are AFRAID TO SPEAK UP because they fear this is a violent thug operation. And some of our India citizen associates who were present when Srila Prabhupada complained of poison also were AFRAID TO SPEAK UP -- because if they would poison Prabhupada, what would they do to us if we objected?
So the India ICC is seen as a violent pedophile thug force not only to us mlecchas, but also to a number of India citizens. So this is a little bit ritvik-diculous, to say that anyone who does not worship pedophiles as their second coming of Jesus guru is -- a mleccha -- when many of the people who do not agree with that deviation are India born citizens, and not mlecchas? So this looks like race baiting as a means of continuing their worship of illicit sex with men, women and children program, which is by the way not done in mleccha culture either, it is less than mleccha.
To sum then, there are thousands and thousands of India born people who agree with PADA. To say all these folks are mlecchas because they do not think we should be reinstating sex with taxi drivers as Vishnupada acharyas, and making pedophiles into acharyas etc., is low class race baiting and is avoiding the actual issue.
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JND: The real difference in ISKCON is the haves and the have nothings. These GBC people have millions of dollars in the bank from disciples to pay for their best medical treatment, while the disciples won't be able to afford the same treatments and will probably die. This is the real core issue, the leaders are taking the money and excluding it from the other citizens.
ReplyDeleteNone of the other citizens will be able get these treatments, unless they are wealthy independently, and most of them will just have to suffer, and many of them are. This was a money grab and nothing more, and that is all it ever will be. It is an offense to say this is some guru tattva discussion, it is a discussion about smash and grab criminals and not more than that.
JD: This is awful. The Lokanath swami India leaders are trying to say anyone who wants to worship the pure devotee is a fallen mleccha, which means the many thousands of Prabhupada devotees in India who worship the pure devotee are fallen low class mlecchas.
ReplyDeleteTerrible insult to India culture ... and insults the many India born people who want to worship the pure devotee. They want to make this into a racial war ... saying only the Western people want to worship the pure devotee ... because no one in India wants to worship the pure devotee. They are just making up crap as they go along. Did they do a survey of India people and found out most of them do not want to worship the pure devotee? Idiots!
This is fake news. I know India people who want to worship Prabhupada and to call them fallen Western mlecchas ... just because they want to worship Krishna's pure devotee is offensive ... and just flat out wrong. Srila Prabhupada never says that the people who worship the pure devotee are the fallen Western mlecchas ... while the people who worship India's dog and pony circus show of bogus sadhus, swamis, avatars and illicit sex gurus ... are the real followers of Vedanta.
He says the direct opposite. These Lokanath people would not know what Prabhupada said if it hit them in the face ... they haven't a clue what he was preaching. They are trying to make this a race issue, when they know very well that many India people want to worship the pure devotee and it is a big fat lie to say they do not. It is just another example of what a big fat liar Lokanath swami is, he is trying to make a race argument which is low class political talk and has nothing to do with Krishna's religion.
Lokanath is on the low class bodily platform of life, he thinks in terms of Western or India body, because he never learned -- we are not this body. He is the actual mleccha in this case, because he is on the platform of my birth, my country, I, me and mine, he is in mleccha consciousness ... while the people who worship the pure devotee are in God consciousness. When is Lokanath going to stop being on the body platform of life? He has not even learned the basic points of the religion and he is posing as a guru ... while preaching "I am the India body"? Utter fools.