Naranarayan Das Visvakarma On ISKCON Child Abuse (VIDEO)

 

Naranaryan das Visvakarma (Nathan Zakheim) speaks on the child molesting issue.

This is a good correction of the child abuse history. The ISKCON children were often neglected, if not starved, beaten, tortured -- and molested. And that is why so many of the children left, and almost none of them ever have had any prominent positions in the ISKCON society. OK they are almost cent percent alienated, and a number of them went off to Narayan Maharaja. Of course, that is because their parents never told them NM has been Tamal's bucket boy.

And more than a few of the victims told PADA "we are the varna-sankara, the unwanted children of Kali Yuga." Hard to imagine that many of the "Vaikuntha children" would come to believe they are rejected / left over / abandoned babies / remnants of the Kali Yuga society. But that is what happened, it is the factual history here.  

Unfortunately, in 1997 when we were helping the molesting victims with a lawsuit, Naranaryan das Visvakarma (NNV) started a huge campaign to oppose PADA (and the victims thereby). NNV began saying that the GBC's mass children molesting regime is "the Golden body of Srila Prabhupada -- which is being destroyed by PADA." It was an attempt to demonize the children victims, and anyone advocating for them, as "killing the golden body of ISKCON."   

And then the NNV group started writing in public, including on their UK web site, to the New York Times, to the Dallas courts, and to many others, that the ISKCON children need to be "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs. And there needs to be a bloodbath of these children in Dallas." And this was their publicly distributed and publicly posted message, fully available on their web site and sent to many others, including -- the Dallas court's folks. Later I sent copies of their writings to the Angelica police and FBI, since it looked like a death threat against victims. 

And then NNV started to make videos with the "ISKCON's children need to be chopped up in a blood bath" UK site, to attack PADA and the children victims further. And they formed a group supposedly "to have PADA kicked off the internet." Wow, they were more aggressive in helping the molester messiah's agenda than even the GBC was at the time. Many GBC folks sort of sheepishly agreed with PADA, "OK yep there is a problem here." Yep, anyone who says pedophiles are not God's messiahs, needs to be kicked off the internet! Who knew!

Meanwhile the NNV party were the main persons aggressively complaining, and full scale attacking and demonizing us, and the victims. "The demon children and their demon advocates are killing ISKCON." Nope, child molesting regimes are not ISKCON. No one told these guys?

Needless to say, this caused a lot of further suffering and grief for many of the victims. The victims had already been mistreated, neglected, sometimes starved, abused, beaten, molested, had their bones broken -- and worse, and there was a growing suicide epidemic among victims -- and now -- they needed to be "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs," "making a giant bloodbath in Dallas" etc. -- as the message promoted by the NNV party. So the NNV program was demonizing the victims, and us, which self evidently helps the perps and victimizers. 

And so NNV and his followers like Sanat / Mukunda UK / Prahlad das (Paul Coats?) UK / and later on their HKC Jaipur group et al., all said that they were not happy that the lawsuit had happened. Why? Hundreds of kids were pulled out of ISKCON schools, the suicides went down, the victims were feeling at least some relief, and the NNV folks were angry as fire that the victims were getting any relief -- at all. Or what? 

Then Prahlad das came out saying, the molester messiahs program's supporters are "the innocent." Nope. The wives of the Kauravas argued that same idea with Krishna, that they are innocent and Krishna is wrong to have their husbands killed. Nope. You folks were encouraging them, you are not innocent.

This court case was: -- (A) stopping further potential molesting cases; (B) stopping many kids from worshiping GBC gurus; (C) stopping the suicides blood bath, (D) giving -- often financially destitute kids -- at least some funds -- and frankly -- these guys hated that this was the result. Of course to their credit, not all of the NNV folks agreed. For example some of the children in the NNV circle and other associates wrote to tell me -- they did not agree with the idea that the GBC's molesting guru regime represents "the golden body of ISKCON." 

And many victims wrote to tell me, there is no way that the manner the GBC program treats children is "the golden body" of Srila Prabhupada, or God, or anything spiritual whatever. Rather, it is a free ride to go see Satan in hell, and endure hell fire, end of story. 

Now recently Sanat (Steve Voith) from this group, has complained "we do not give him credit." Credit for what? He said that he wanted to have Srila Prabhupada's children killed, chopped up and fed to dogs -- in a bloodbath in Dallas. And we credited him with these statements? And we credited the NNV party for enabling, cheer leading, helping and encouraging their entire "making the victims into demons" situation. 

Not sure what Sanat means, "we do not give people credit." No, we credit folks, and we quote them direct as much as possible. OK sometimes we get third or fourth hand info, but if it is proven wrong, and needs correcting, we will do so if the right version can be substantiated. I fail to see where we got the wrong version here? 

Other people remember their statements, including a prominent scholar from the East coast who was also getting their "blood bath in Dallas" messages. And the court folks saw their messages, we even sent copies to the FBI and Angelica police. Where did we miss giving him credit? Sorry, we try as best we can to credit the actual people responsible for various histories, and if there is something we missed, then send us the correct info and let us see if we can validate it.  

Anyway! This is a good correction of the history. Yes, the children were being tortured. No, the children were not inside the golden body of Krishna. Yes, the children were in hell -- and so was anyone who advocated for them. And at the time, NNV was one of the most prominent people making total hell for those of us advocating for the victims. 

Saying the children victims and their advocates are demons who are trying to destroy ISKCON is how people like NNV get others killed. Clearly, that was NNV's intent at the time, to shut down PADA, either one way or the other, and to create hell for the victims by calling the children evil Satans and demons. It looks like now, he is finally agreeing, this was all wrong. If anything, the NNV party are the Satans and demons of that era for defending their golden bodied child abuser regime.

As for NNV's idea of forgetting the past. Nope. We need to know the past so we can avoid having any of this ever happen again. Yes, the children were tortured, and then they were re-tortured and re-victimized by being massively attacked, insulted and demonized as greedy Satans by the NNV program at the time. 

That is the history, and as Madhvacarya says, no one can re-write history. So there was massive lethargy and apathy on the one hand, and highly aggressive and even violent attempts to shut down the advocates of the child molesting victims on the other hand. The children victims themselves were called offensive demons by the NNV group, evidently -- to get them targeted for even more violence. That is what happened, I was there, your reporter on the scene of the crime. 

And no, for the person who sent me this, I do not hate NNV personally, but I do hate re-writing history. 

ys pd

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