PADA: Namarasa has blocked the ladies who are advocating ISKCON child protection, while he evidently allows mainly the members of the pedophile messiah's club to speak on his forum, make comments etc. Again evidently, he favors those who are having our ISKCON children worshiping the GBC's pedophile acharya's program.
Of course, even karmis ask me, "what kind of people want their society's children to worship pedophiles as their gurus"? No one knows why! Because their system blocks us from commenting, and our never asking the questions thereby! Clearly there is a pro-pedophile guru agenda afoot in ISKCON, since their program has worshiped pedophiles from 1978 - 2022 with no end in sight!
We also find the founder fathers of the pedophile acharya program's guys -- like Mukuna swami -- being interviewed. Yet his former secretary Nandini -- who saw Mukunda dumping hundreds of complaint letters in the trash -- is never interviewed. These complaint letters were asking for help with the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and assassinations going on. Anyone who helps cover up child molesting gets to be interviewed, not others?
Mukunda swami told her "I have a career to protect." So the people who promote pedophiles as gurus, and who squash the opposition, are interviewed, not the people who are exposing their pedophile gurus system? Indeed the people who have made a career out of making ISKCON children worship pedophiles seem to get the exclusive red carpet treatment here, and everyone is not welcome?
All this begs the question, is it a free thinking forum for open discussion, when it is always seemingly tilted towards the pedophile messiah's club leaders? Or worse, the founder fathers and cover-up crew for the pedophile acharya's agenda?
Oh yea, the people who say Srila Prabhupada's jeeva tattva is bogus and "is not found in shastra" like BV Padmanabha are also interviewed. Right now some of Mukunda's pals are saying ISKCON should take down the Prabhupada lectures videos from the internet because "they are too controversial for modern times." They want to erase Srila Prabhupada in total -- it looks like to some of us.
Why is Namarasa tilting towards these deviants, or worse, the people who say Krishna's successors are often illicit sex with men, women and children sexual predators and pedophiles? And now we are wondering why the worship of pedophiles as Krishna's successors and gurus is causing: splits and schism; and no small amount of empty ghost town temples; and no small amount of ex-victims writing all over the internet. Duh!
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S Dasi: Thanks KD for your for suggesting me as a guest for Namarasa's show. I wish I could say "thank you" under your comment, but Namarasa has blocked me from Liking or Commenting on any of his show's posts.
For the record, I would love to be interviewed about the importance of child protection in ISKCON. I have asked him, but if someone else could ask him as well that would be great. I envision a panel with me, Dhira Govinda, and other advocates of child protection. Thank you.
AD: In the first chapter of the Nectar of Devotion which is my personal read at present, there is a very nice description of a practicing devotee which you are trying your best to help promote. Read the small part called "Auspiciousness." " "Srila Rupa Goswami has defined auspiciousness as-----!"
PB: Krishna Consciousness is all auspicious!
AB Dasi: The Late Morning Program with Namarasa Podcast what's up with this? Can this be true? I hold respect for your program for offering multiple viewpoints of what's going on in the Krishna Consciousness movement globally. Are you really stifling this voice?
S Dasi: This may give context:
https://lokanath.net/notes-on-namarasas-biased-interview...
Notes on Namarasa’s Biased Interview of Lokanath Supporter - October 2021
LOKANATH.NET
RP: Go S Dasi! You have them on the run!
MM Dasi: Namarasa Das what do you think? I think it's a brilliant idea!
S Dasi: He blocked me completely from his personal account, so he may not see your comment.
MF Dasi: Out of all people who I thought would take child protection to heart ... I thought would be Namarasa. Feeling very sad about our movement recently.
Child protection is so BLACK & WHITE .... Why is it for many people making a great GREY Area for Lokanath ... No matter how much he's done for the movement... molesting is molesting. It eliminates any good you've done.
Any mother would understand this. Thank you for your service S DASI!
AA Dasi: That's fine... AG, how about S DASI be on YOUR podcast?
S Dasi: I would love to!
AA Dasi: Great! It just makes sense. Bhakti Kids should talk about the evolution ... from pregnancy to child abuse prevention.
RKP Dasi: S Dasi, something I deeply appreciate about you is that you don't take the "throw the baby out with the bathwater" stance and just walk away from ISKCON. I see no point in walking away and trying to start fresh because inevitably the same problems will occur if one does not work through the history to make improvements to the present and future.
Each and every one of us is responsible in our own local communities to make things safe and not allow those who do harm to come to them. The CPO needs to be funded and allowed autonomy to investigate and make sanctions against those who do harm. And locally we need to abide by those sanctions.
I am all about the local, but there needs to be communication between different locals for everyone's protection.
I Dasa: Well said.
DNJ: S Dasi, you’re assuming you’re dealing with normal humans with actual emotions and a soul. These GBC guys are narcissistic psychopaths. Look at how many threats you have received by rabid cult members and sycophantic pedophile worshippers. At this point, remaining in the organization - including trying to reform it from within, is self deluding and fruitless. I say this because I think you’re better than that. These people don’t even deserve to have a face to face conversation.
Just walk away and starve them to death. If you have some money and we’re thinking of donating it to anything official Iskcon, just invest it in your own sankirtana. Heck, buying yourself a Rolex would be a better investment.
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH. IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH. IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR. AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ARE DEAD.'
NH: Lol his guru is Radanath, the guy who covered up for Kirtanandas pedophilia and orchestrated a murder conspiracy. That's all easily provable with a few Google searches.
RRB: No offense to Prabhu, but his show is extremely biased. Maybe that should be advertised? Otherwise outsiders looking in might think that his opinions speak for all “Hare Krishnas”, seeing as it is the “number one Hare Krishna podcast”.
I stopped watching his show after I found out that he blocked you. Child protection and even the Lokanath case are topics that should be a priority for discussion. The fact that he is choosing to ignore and even block, is very concerning.
MMDD: I stopped too. A collaborator.
LMDD: I also boycotted him after this incident, there’s just so much more content available that his show just wasn’t necessary once his true colors shown.
I highly recommend the Spirit Matters podcast it’s daily (weekdays), short (30ish min. ) digestible (real people and real topics) and inspiring!!!
BHD: Radhanath? Really and he follows him? That’s a farce.
SP DASA: Iskcon at it's finest.
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PADA: Wow this is quite correct! The ISKCON GBC wants you -- and your kids -- to worship their "guru chain" which contains -- homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis, and in sum -- illicit sex with men, women and children -- and so on. That is their alleged "chain of gurus from God" -- and most people are going to reject, resist, oppose -- and in sum -- create "a division" from that process. And indeed, this is the root of most of these apparent "divisions."Goody!
Reject them, and divide from them! Which is what they should do. It is the duty of all human beings to separate themselves from the GBC's pedophile guru's worshiping cult. Worshipers of pedophile gurus are also NOT "friendly fire." Their program will ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. That is not a friendly process. At all!
The future of the Hare Krishna religion? Simple. It will get back to its roots, and reject their pedophile guru process and start to worship the pure devotees again. Albeit, it will be difficult to shake off all the bad public image and mass of mis-information the pedophile worshipers created for decades.
We are glad these "divisions" are finally being discussed more openly. Yes, there are two basic camps, (A) the pedophile's messiah's and guru's program, and (B) the pure devotee's guru program. We should make sure people understand which is which, and help them make the right choices. So far Namarasa's track record is not good by many people's account, but not to worry, we have other avenues to discuss issues apart from these folks. ys pd
Damn! I worked as hard as I could to help Kirtanananda ban, beat, molest, sue and kill the Prabhupada devotees. I even had my disciples beat Kulashekara almost to death -- to send a message, keep that f***ing Prabhupada worship out of ISKCON.
But alas! We could not get rid of all the Prabhupada worshipers, much as we tried to eliminate them! There are still some die hards out there who will not worship my illicit sex with men, women and children pooja program!
That makes me cry! Kirtanananda was reported by his ex-secretary for trying to have sex with a cat, and some people are still not bowing to his samadhi! I have to cry now! Why aren't people worshiping sex with cats, and they want to worship Prabhupada instead? Makes me cry! The only good news is, my representatives and defenders are still getting interviewed by Namarasa! As I always said, sex with cats in samadhi ki-jaya sir! That is my eternal motto and mantra!
I also was told not to act as a diksha guru by my guru and take karma, because it will make me sick and maybe die, but hey, I am another Jesus and I can take sins! Ooops, well maybe not, it looks like it is killing me. That is ok, I will be worshiped along with sex with cats even after I am not here! I will be famous forever as the sex with cats messiah's lover's club member!
PA DASI: After I left ISKCON I was participating in a lot of new age and yoga groups ... to get some association. I was not too surprised a lot of the people in those groups say things like this:
ReplyDelete"The Hare Krishnas are a crazy loon bin";
"The Hare Krishnas are a dangerous cult, stay away";
"The Hare Krishnas are only attracting pedophiles and criminals";
"The Hare Krishna have lunatic gurus and the pathetic lunatics who worship them" ... and comments like that. And people like Namarasa are trying to make all this bad behavior look like it is bona fide. He is helping make the bad image ... worse ... because he is not addressing the real root issues.
I think these people have no idea how bad they look to others ... or they don't care. If they really loved Krishna they would try to make the Krishna religion look good ... instead of pushing the people who are making it look bad. Which all comes down to ... you can paint lipstick on a pig ... but it is still a pig.
Blocking people from commenting is how lunatic and pedophile cults operate all the time. He is simply adding to that perception. Hopefully he will wake up one day and realize he is contributing to the problem ... which makes him part of the problem. The new age and yoga people are light years ahead of Namarasa ... they have understood the problem way before him ... and he doesn't understand because ... he is not as advanced as they are.
LW: I am not sure how many more deviants Namarasa's fellowship could add to their "pure devotee successors to Krishna guru line." His fellowship already have a guru line of ... illicit sex, homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, men wearing capes and women's tutus ... and going to gay bars, gambling, sex with a dozen followers, getting people murdered (like Radhanath has done with Sulochan?) and what else?
ReplyDeleteIt does look like every day Namarasa fellowship tries to find another horrible activity to add to their line of gurus. And they think this is a chain of gurus from Krishna? You are right. Any ordinary Western person knows that this is not what we find in a chain of gurus from God. Only people like Namarasa fellowship thinks this is a line of gurus from God. Psychopathic narcissists is one idea that comes to mind.
More amazing. The people of Bharat are supposed to be telling the Westerners NOT to worship pedophiles as their gurus. Instead the Western people have to tell these Bharat people that pedophiles are not Krishna's successors. How many people in the West think pedophiles are God's successors? Maybe ... no one I know of.
How many people think pedophiles are gurus in Bharat? Not sure ... but that is where they have most of their followers. Then they complain ... the people who do not worship pedophiles as gurus are "racists"?
Really low class. Anyone who does not worship pedophiles as Krishna's successors is ... a racist? That is their best (only) argument? WTF! So they are simply trying to bring the whole society to hell ... which is what Srila Prabhupada says these false gurus followers will do all the time. They all end up in hell.
Just for the record then ... no ... pedophiles are not in the chain of gurus from Krishna. I don't even have any real devotion for Krishna ... but I see no need to insult Him by lumping Him in with perverts and criminals as His "pure successors." Even I know that is a fast track ticket to hell. The Christians are right ... first you have to fear God before you can love Him. These pedophile guru club fellowships have no fear of God and eternal damnation in hell at all ... they are atheists.
SD DASI: When I was a kid and would say to my mother ... a drunk is the successor to God ... I'd be punished. And badly. She would teach me a lesson ... maybe go so far as ... make me wash out my mouth with soap. She would have to make me understand ... this is wrong.
ReplyDeleteThese Namarasa people say much worse than that ... pedophiles AND DRUNKS ... and Reno gambling party people ... and cape wearing tutu dress gay bar hoppers, and people having sex with a dozen disciples, and dope head pill popping Satsvarupa, and homosexual samadhis makers, and maybe worse than that, are or were in the line of guru successors to God.
What is the problem really? They don't have any mothers around to wash out their mouths with soap. Nobody seems to ever tell them ... this is wrong.
That itself proves the gurus in this system are bogus. The GBC gurus tell the followers that pedophiles are God's successors ... and pedophiles are fit to be in a samadhi in Krishna's land ... and the followers are so brain dead ... they just accept ... because there is no one around to wash their mouths out.
My question is? Where in the HELL are their mothers? You mean ... their mothers never told them, pedophiles are not God's successors?
What kind of mothers raised these people is what I'd like to know.
Even my own kids would never get these horribly offensive ideas in their brains ... because I trained them that way. These Namarasa people never had any religion training ... at all. That is very clear ... which I know ... because I am a mother myself and I know how to teach kids on this topic.
This is the whole problem. Their mothers never washed their mouths out when they said bad things ... and so now they just think saying bad things is normal. Anyone who thinks pedophiles are in the chain of God's gurus has really had BAD PARENTING ... and that leads to accepting BAD GURUS. That is why I train my kids to know ... what it means to be a successor to the Supreme.
I hate to have to be the one to say this ... but anyone who thinks pedophiles are the successors to God is ... as dumb as a rock ... because they never got any knowledge placed in their rock heads when they were growing up. These people are prime examples of how NOT TO RAISE YOUR KIDS.
So naturally, the people who think pedophiles are gurus ... will have a molesting program in their society. What else would anyone expect? That is my question. Where are their parents? What training did the parents give these people? And if they got bad training when they were kids ... they will train kids badly themselves.
They are making a succession of generational bad training of kids. The good news is ... my kids are going to be well aware of these people and their pedophile worshiping agenda. They are not going to be fooled by them for one second.
Mahesh Raja: Hare Krsna!
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Just to let you know:
WHY? do Anti Ritviks want Hare Krishna Copyrighted? because they use it as tool for money making business from Hindus. In UK, long time back Anti Ritvik (former Manchester UK - TP) Krishna Dharma das also sent a letter to Mukunda das on this Hare Krishna Copyright business. What happened is Mukunda das had opened a center in Oldham, Manchester - but Anti Ritviks use "Hare Krishna" chanting as a means for -----milking the Hindus ----means they did not want competition in their donation business.
Hare Krsna!
[PADA: Yes, they want to attract sentimental Hindus who are self evidently secularists, mundane people, or clueless worshipers and enablers of pedophile acharyas. One lady says Namarasa was self evidently never trained as a child in his so-called Hindu culture, because he does not even know that the GBC's homsexual pedophiles are not Krishna's guru successors.
She says, he was not trained as a child in the Krishna religion's process, and he is not being trained now by his so-called gurus. To say that the name Hare Krishna has 20 years of good standing because of ISKCON is another joke, the name has been tarnished badly. They should be sued for giving Krishna a bad name.
And they will be sued in the court of Yamaraja. Yes, it is all about keeping their Hindu business going, so they can recruit the clueless pedophile worshiping class of people who have no idea about the teachings of Krishna. It is a business. And their pedophile worshiping disciples are being trained how to NOT WORSHIP KRISHNA.]
JD: I agree with SD Dasi. Most of the Hindus who come to ISKCON have no idea what Srila Prabhupada is teaching. They seem to think Hare Krishna is another bogus guru Hindu group. Or they are like Namarasa ... they seem to have got VERY bad training from their parents because the parents seem to have never even told their kids ... pedophiles are not gurus.
ReplyDeleteAt least we in the West have been trained that the guru must be pure ... like Jesus ... or he is not a guru. We have a big huge advantage over their Basu Ghosh ICC secular and "modern (Kali) standards" ... their pedophile's guru program.
No wonder they say the Westerners are behind the times ... the Basu Ghosh ICC people want to "modernize" the Krishna religion and make it a haven for homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks and fools to be the "new gurus" of Krishna. It needs to be updated ... to Kali yuga standards.
SD Dasi is right, it seems that growing up, no one ever told these people like Namarasa what is right and what is wrong. And their gurus are not telling them either. They got bad training in the Hindu hodge podge religion ... their parents were (clearly?) mundane secularists who never trained their kids ... and so now ... their kids do not even know that homosexuals and pedophiles are not the successors to Krishna. They have no idea what is right and wrong. Or who is Krishna.
They are more ignorant than the Westerners. The Westerners have many bad ideas ... for sure ... but they never think homosexuals and pedophiles are God's successors. That is why the GBC does well only in India, and BVKS and others stay there, those people are not trained.
They cannot even distinguish a homosexual pedophile from an acharya.
Most of the ISKCON Hindus I exchange with ... don't blink an eye when I tell them ... the GBC worships bogus people ... like pedophiles. It does not register on their radar as a big issue ... because they are used to having all sorts of bogus people gurus all over India.
The GBC knows that ... and exploits that. Praghosha is a disciple of Satsvarupa ... and that should explain everything we need to know.
SD Dasi is right. They were never trained and are not being trained now. I also have a neighbor ... and he is a pilot who flies to India all the time. And he says ... in India they protect the cows ... so they are wandering around starving, eating old rotten garbage, some of them have bad cuts and bruises, some of them are dying of hunger and thirst, and they think this is cow protection. At least in America we treat them much better. They are fat and happy, they have a lot to eat and drink, they get a vet doctor to fix them if they get a cut, and we just kill them quickly so they do not suffer. Over there the cows are alive ... but live a suffering life. That means ... they just think they are better than us ... but they aren't. I think this applies to their pedophile gurus standards as well. Arrogance does not make people right.
Bhakta Jojo: Oh we need the people of Bharat to take up the order of Lord Chaitanya ... and preach! Preach what? That homosexual pedophiles are in the chain of gurus from Krishna ... which will drag the earth to hell.
ReplyDeleteI almost forgot! Earth is not going to hell fast enough for these jokers. They want to speed up the demise of the planet. Is that what Lord Chaitanya wanted? Of course not. They are making things up in His name.
I too am surprised that their parents seem to have never told them ... pedophiles are not in the "chain of gurus from Krishna." No one ever told them that?
Astonishing ignorance. We knew that when we were children ... God is pure and so are His successors. Homosexual pedophiles need not apply for the job. Here is our resume to be worshiped as good as God, homosexuals and pedophiles. They think this is a good looking resume for a guru? Astonishing ignorance. No wonder they block people from commenting. They would not appreciate mine.
PADA: Thanks prabhu, yes I think you are right, these people are making children worship pedophiles as their gurus, and this is a crime against children and should be reported to the state child welfare department and other agencies. It is called corrupting the morals of minors.
ReplyDeleteYes, you are free to use PADA links in your report and they are free to contact us on this topic. No, there is no ISKCON official corporate document stating that children are going to worship pedophiles as their gurus. ys pd