Thursday, February 3, 2022

MS: ISKCON Makes Acharyas Into Lusty Animals

MS: "SEX INDULGENCE IS CONSIDERED THE TOPMOST SOURCE OF ENJOYEMENT IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD, IS THAT A FACT?''

As a matter of fact, in this reflection of the spiritual world, the material world of birth and death, disease and old age, sex enjoyment is considered the most highest level or source of happiness. Even in the lower animal kingdom, they are after sex to the best of their abilities. 

According to the Sastra, (SB. 5. 5 .18) it says, 

gurur na sa syāt sva-jano na sa syāt
pitā na sa syāj jananī na sā syāt
daivaṁ na tat syān na patiś ca sa syān
na mocayed yaḥ samupeta-mṛtyum

Translation

One who cannot deliver his dependents from the path of repeated birth and death should never become a spiritual master, a father, a husband, a mother or a worshipable demigod.

Purport

There are many spiritual masters, but Ṛṣabhadeva advises that one should not become a spiritual master if he is unable to save his disciple from the path of birth and death. Unless one is a pure devotee of Kṛṣṇa, he cannot save himself from the path of repeated birth and death. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti so ’rjuna. One can stop birth and death only by returning home, back to Godhead. However, who can go back to Godhead unless he understands the Supreme Lord in truth? Janma karma ca me divyam evam yo vetti tattvataḥ.

This is why sex indulgence is very serious, dangerous and precarious for a devotee, hence, anyone who cannot fulfill the rulings of the Supreme Lord, should at least try to stay away from sex life. In other words, from this text, how many in this world can actually fulfill the rulings of the Lord, since most of the population are involved in sexual activity? 

Here it is clearly said -- that one who can't give full protection to his dependents, and save them from birth and death, disease and old age, should not think of becoming a mother, father, teacher, leader, King or a Queen, or a guru. Are you ready to do that? 

The first problem in ISKCON is ... since 1978 ... they have attempted to "normalize" illicit sex desires, sometimes even very perverted deviations of illicit sexual desires, as the "normal" behavior of Krishna's gurus. Even such deviations as ... illicit sex with men, women and children are considered as sometimes ... or repeated times ... the activities of the gurus in the parampara. 

That is why we see GBC people, Bahushira dasa, Bhakti Vikas swami, Gaudiya Matha people and many others saying ... it is normal for gurus to fall into animal's like illicit sexual activity. However, Srila Prabhupada says illicit sex is a contamination, a deviation ... and we do not find any such deviation of this nature in the acharyas. In other words they are misrepresenting the acharyas ... and what it means to be a pure devotee of Krishna. They are trying to blend together animal life with pure devotee life.

They are misleading even little children into believing animal's illicit sex desire is commonly found in the acharyas. So this is very seriously harming the spiritual development of the human society. If the human society is taught that it is common for pure devotees to be lusty ... and have same lusty desires like the animal's society -- then it is making it very impossible for people to advance spiritually. 

They will think that spiritual life is not better than animal life -- so why bother attempting being austere in the religion? I am already contaminated, when I become a pure devotee I will still be contaminated, so why bother chanting Hare Krishna and trying to follow Krishna? It is a complete waste of time. This explains why many Hare Krishna's children also abandon the religion as ... a waste of time.  

That is also one reason the temples are empty. The people in the temples are preaching ... worship of Krishna is a waste of time, because after all the work of chanting, attending classes, becoming pure -- you will remain in animal consciousness ... and still have animal like lusty desires. And you will behave like an animal, or worse you will worship another animal as your guru, even after following all these austere programs ... it remains animal platform. So, why bother?

They are discouraging people from even making the attempt, before they even get started with the basics. I see that Bhakti Vikas swami makes a video "Guru Troubles Are Nothing New" because he wants people to believe that gurus and pure devotees ... and animal like sex desires ... are on the same platform. And then disciples of BVKS like Bahushira repeat that. Yes, it is common for gurus to be like the cats, dogs, hogs and debauchees. So why should any new student person bother to become a professor, when after being a professor, he is still a dog? 

They think pure devotees are still animal, then they wonder why people do not want to worship the pure devotees, thinking it is a waste of time? You will become a spiritual master and remain an animal. Why bother? 

This is how they are ruining the spiritual lives of many people. And that is why after all this time, ISKCON is more and more empty. They do not have a good product, they do not have many customers. I think these people who want to advertise acharyas as big animals will certainly become animals in their future lives. You wanted to worship animal activity as acharyas, you will become an animal yourself. 

And it is most sinful to claim that pure devotees are just like dogs and animals. This will be why they have to go to the darkest regions ... and become animals there. Any religion that worships dog behavior will not progress ... nor will the people in that religion make progress ... unless we consider going to hell as making progress. Do not become guru unless you can save your subordinates ... because it is very sinful to violate this order. Then again dog behaving people cannot even save themselves ... not to speak of others. 

Another devotee sent me a video of some "GBC shastra class" telling people "just read Srila Prabhupada's books." However, if we ask the person giving that class "how come you people say acharyas are often dog-like animals," he has no answer because he has not read the books himself. Pure devotees are often lusty dogs and animals, and that is what they are reading in the books? 

No. The books say ... anyone who thinks acharyas are like dogs and animals ... gets a ticket to hell. That is what they want to avoid. In the end ... we are not ever allowed to quote these things from the books of the guru in ISKCON. Anyone who does use these quotes from the books ... will be banished and removed. All that is required ... to save their cats, dogs and hogs lusty consciousness acharya's idea. 

They wanted people to worship cats, dogs and hogs consciousness, so they will become one of these species. The sad thing is, their followers go with them to their cats, dogs and hogs life. This is what the asuras always wanted ... to have people preaching that acharyas are like lusty cats, dogs and hogs. And now they have taken over ISKCON ... just so they can preach that idea.

[PADA: Yes, a devotee said if acharyas are behaving like dogs, and they are supposedly qualitatively identical to Krishna, that makes Krishna also a dog. Yep, that is what they are preaching. Agreed.]

2 comments:

  1. M DASI: Hey I got an idee! Lust, anger and greed are the gateways to hell. Let us have ISKCON people worship lust, anger and greed acharyas ... to open the floodgates to hell.

    Why bother sending only ourselves to hell ... when we can drag millions of others there with us? Srila Prabhupada's idea is ... asuras come from the lower planets to here ... to drag poor innocent people BACK DOWN to the hells they came from.

    What better way to do that than ... making Krishna's pure devotees just like lusty cats, dogs and hogs. Acharyas are as good as God, who is therefore also a cat, hog and dog. In other words, God is a lusty dog ... because the pure devotees are the same in quality!

    And that is what they have been preaching the whole time. I was there! One of them complains to me "we are doing the real preaching, you are not preaching like us." I am not "preaching" ... that Krishna's gurus are just like a lusty dog, because the gurus are quality same as Krishna, who is then also just another lusty dog?

    Why would anyone want to "preach" that God's pure devotees are just like lusty dogs, because they are the same quality as God? Even asura class and tamas guna class are not going around saying .... God's pure devotee's quality is like God ... which is like lusty dogs ... because God is another lusty dog? They have not dedicated their life to insulting God. I agree with MS ... they want us to worship lusty dogs ... and think lusty dogs are like God ... because they are sending people to hell.

    [PADA: I just told someone that yes, Bhakti Vikas swami, Bahushira and these types of people have dedicated their entire lives to making small children think that God's successors are lusty dogs, because the successors to God are the quality same as God, because God is a lusty dog. Yep! That IS what they are saying.

    And yes, God is a lusty dog to them, which explains why there has been an explosion of illicit sex with men, women and children under their rule. God's successors are lusty dogs, so why bother trying to become pure yourself? One ex-GBC man told me, better to watch football on Sunday than go to the temple. It is a waste of time to go there. That is the result of their preaching.]

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  2. LW: Yeah. Prabhupada says ... people in the modes of ignorance worship dog and not God. So the GBC has a genius idea ... combined the ideas. God is like His pure devotee ... generally a lusty dog ... so we can worship God or dog and ... it is the same thing.

    This would be funny ... except ... when they are on the planet where they are getting bitten over and over by very fast and sharp teeths rurus animals ... and they are trying to escape by running through the sharp thorns ... no one will be laughing then.

    I feel so sad for the poor followers. The followers are being trained ... God is like a lusty dog because His pure devotees are just like Him ... also lusty dogs. WTF! And this is being advertised as a religion?

    Oh these poor India ICC fellows do not even know ... God's successors are not lusty dogs? They think lusty dogs are the successors ... and they are going to teach us fools what is what? We do not need your instruction ... but thanks!

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