Rasika Conclusion / Note to Hindu / Gaura Keshava's Speculation 09 07

RASIKA CONCLUSION

PADA: My friend Nityananda Moodley was able to revive the whole Mahanidi / Radha Kunda babaji imbroglio from the past. Evidently, some people were not aware of the problems Mahanidi / babajis have caused previously. So it was like a refresher class for some individuals. 

First of all, Mahanidi supported the GBC's guru system in the early 1980s. And he was evidently over bearing and cruel with some of the women in his Baltimore temple. One of his female victims later on died of cancer, after complaining to me how badly disappointed she was with people like Mahanidhi, who kicked her out of the temple after she had collected $$$ hundreds and thousands for them. Sounds like the typical GBC narcissistic -- misogynist / women exploiter? OK some victims died. What else is new?

Then, after Sulochana was assassinated by the Mahanidhi / GBC regime in 1986, and their program was exposed in the media, many of these leaders [ like Radhanath / Kirtanananda / Tapapunja / Mahanidhi etc. ] fled to India. Yep. Because we had exposed them so badly in the United States. And others like Mukunda swami, Devamrita, Prabhavishnu etc. went to Australia etc. to hide out from their criminal program being exposed in the USA.

And then? They started their Rasika program with Narayan Maharaj, which was another diversion and disaster. And Aindra was saying -- they are draining away the manpower and assets of ISKCON. So it was not helping the Rasika program, rather it was causing distress and dismantling ISKCON. Aindra is correct, the GBC -- Mahanidhi -- Narayan Program caused thousands of people to leave ISKCON, and to drain out the society.   

And then many people complained -- Narayan Maharaj is creating a bogus Gopi Rasika program with the GBC -- which has been yet another smoke screen diversion from all the crimes of their empire, including child molesting, that had been going on left, right, and center all over ISKCON at the time. 

So the rasika scheme was like a smokescreen to hide the criminal element embedded in the management. Then, the GBC finally banned Narayan Maharaj. And so a bunch of them started flocking over to the Radha Kunda babajis. And that created another smokescreen diversion for all the criminal programs going on, including child abuse -- actually still going on at the time. 

And Mahanidi had supported most of these programs. And he did not like "the bogus ritviks," still doesn't, because we have been exposing all these criminal things. Then, in addition to supporting other deviants, Maha=needy start skirt chasing his own married disciple, who had her own grown up children. Who goes to the dham to start skirt chasing married women? 

I forgot, the GBC-ophiles. Lusting after women and combining any of that process to rasika with Krishna is -- what Srila Prabhupada says -- is the path to hell. Just be an honest guy and admit you are a skirt chaser, but no, they are cheaters. I am personally too old to be a skirt chaser at this stage. And have not had much time for that anyway, because of a life of dodging GBC fanatics out to get me. But if I was skirt chaser -- the LAST PLACE ON EARTH I would want to be is -- Radha Kunda. Hello! This is a severe aparadha. Do these people not know this?

OK NONE of this is going to be a source of rasika-ness. If anybody should be asking "where is the Rasika"? It is me. I am being banned, beaten, chased with bats, my friends are being assassinated etc. So where is my Rasika? Hee hee!  

If we ACTUALLY read the Vedas, we find that many great, powerful and learned sages performed austerities for hundreds and thousands, or even millions of years. And they still did NOT get Rasika. The saints who later on became the gopis also performed severe austerities for vast periods of time, not for a few decades in Kali Yuga. Attaining rasika with Krishna is -- in sum, not a cheap thing that just drops into our laps with little effort. And to expect it will drop into our laps easily is because -- we have a CHEAP idea of how it works.

We should not "jump up like monkeys" and expect Krishna to hug us and welcome us into the gopi's rasika camp -- by simply chanting for a few years. This is called Sahajiya. Prithu Putra went to the babajis, and when he came back to the ISKCON temple, Sila Prabhupada was infuriated. "Who told you to go there"? 

Then our poor friend Nityananda goes there. And he said he was taking care of the Vrndavan cows. And he started advertising his "cow seva program" -- which is fine and nice mind you. However, Srila Prabhupada never said we should go to Vrndavan to serve the cows as our first priority. He wanted us to first save the humans by preaching. And then save the cows secondarily. 

I was suspicious when Nityananda was advertising his cow seva -- and not advertising his preaching. Srila Prabhupada says, if we go to the babajis, our preaching will be stopped. And that is what happened. 

So it is a good lesson for everyone. Including Nityananda himself. He probably realizes by now -- jumping up like monkeys into rasika -- with a former GBC leader and past master ISKCON politician / bogus sadhu like Mahanadi -- is not the correct path to Rasika. Krishna demands a much tougher standard because, well for starters -- He is the Supreme God, duh!!! 

If anything, these deviations are going to take a person 1,000,000 miles away from rasika. We cannot associate with supporters of the GBC's deviations and expect to get rasika from that source. Rather, we will encounter all kinds of problems attaining rasika, or worse we will be blocked from rasika. Or worse we will end us as offenders to rasika.

I have not heard anything further from the Nityananda camp. But I don't expect to hear anything soon either, he has to process and digest all this. He is unfortunately another version of some of the other "India scholars" I have been debating recently. 

For example Bhakti Vikas swami's follower "Shridhara Srinivasa dasa." He informs me that Bhakti Vikas Swami is doing great work -- challenging, correcting, admonishing, censuring and severely chastising his fellow -- sum totals of the demigods / Krishna's rasika sevakas / co-gurus, who are evidently many times fallen, lusty dog-like rascals. Yep another Mahanidhi guy who mixes rasika with debauchees.

Of course who knew, these fallen lusty dogs are simultaneously Krishna's successors, rasika experts in gopi leela, and BVKS idea of God's messiahs. And these type people want to debate with us?

And thus BVKS is constantly correcting his lusty dogs / rasika experts / messiahs on a regular basis, which means he is doing a great job! What!!! That means Bhakti Vikas Swami thinks -- lusty dogs are often God's successors and shaksat (direct) associates. And thus God's associates need constant correction for deviations. 

And since God's associates need constant correcting, therefore God also needs correcting. Which means -- Bhakti Vikas thinks God is defective because His successors are defective. No wonder Sridhara Srinivasa left the debate and quit the discussion. 

Yep! Who knew! The apparent good news is, BVKS is here to SAVE the day and to correct God and His debauchee rasika successors. So altogether -- none of these people have a very good argument. And it is surprising that these so-called scholars are coming up with these ridiculous arguments. Mahanidhi is just another one of these bone headed scholars who has been trying to work along with these bogus messiahs, who need constant correcting.

Anyway, more good news is, they are not moving ahead much these days. The Rasika crew has little following and the BVKS debauchees messiah's project is getting criticized on all sides these days. And thus, more people are joining our argument, follow the acharya and do not speculate. ys pd 

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PADA to a Hindu Gentleman:

The Christians idea is, the original sin of man was that Adam and Eve rejected the authority of God, and they were cast out of the Garden to suffer. Same basic idea as the Srimad Bhagavatam. Once, all of us jeevas were with Krishna in Vaikuntha. But we rejected the authority of Krishna, and then we were cast into the illusory energy of Krishna -- also known as Maya shakti. Maya means, that which is not, and forgetting Krishna is the main element of Maya. Therefore, the fallen jeevas are more or less being punished until they re-join with the authority of Krishna, and that is called Yoga or joining back, which is also where the English word "Yoke" comes from. 

So now all over India people are celebrating Krishna's Janmasthami, and the purpose of these festivals is to help people remember their connection to the Lord, so they can free themselves from material bondage and return back to Krishna. That is also called bhakti yoga. And the goal of bhakti is to develop a loving relationship with Krishna, and at that stage one is guaranteed to return back to Him. ys pd

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(the other) Nityananda's book --

GAURA KESHAVA DAS HAS BEEN AN ERRANT INFLUENCE 

Widely known as a learned brahmana and scholar, Gaura Keshava das was a leading member of the Shastric Advisory Council (SAC) and he became ISKCON’s advising brahmana, touring ISKCON to train brahmanas and pujaris. Based upon his own defective opinion, after studying shastra, Gaudiya Math, sampradayas, and “technicalities,” he advocated reversing Srila Prabhupada’s ascending order of offering in temple or home altar worship, to a descending order, with Krishna first and last, down to the ISKCON conditioned “guru.” 

Most of ISKCON in India, Europe, Australia, and elsewhere adopted the changed deity worship procedure, supported by Jayapataka, Bhavananda, many GBCs. ISKCON pujaris mentally seek the permission, in a meaningless exercise of imagination, of their conditioned “guru’s” photo on the altar and then make offerings first to Radha Krishna, then Gaur Nitai, the Guru parampara, Srila Prabhupada, and last to their “guru.” 

But this was not how Srila Prabhupada taught us to offer altar worship or food, where we offer first to Srila Prabhupada, then previous acharyas, Gaura Nitai, and lastly Radha Krishna. Srila Prabhupada warned us not to make changes, but ISKCON has made serious changes to the deity worship and food offerings. This was an attempt to solve the quandary of conditioned “gurus” not being spiritually able to pass the worship up the disciplic succession. 

But can a conditioned “guru” induce Krishna to accept worship directly, even if he asks his false guru for permission? The contradictions and anomalies that compound and multiply when ISKCON adopts defective initiation and guru doctrines cannot be solved with adding more defective doctrines to be applied in deity worship. These deity worship changes took place when ISKCON “gurus.” 

Bhavananda and others were discovered in sinful activities. Should his disciples should first offer to him, or to Krishna and then to him? The GBC decided he should not be offered bhoga, but only prasadam, for his own good and that of others, thus changing the process of deity worship, adopting the descending sequence that is practiced in Gaudiya Math temples. 

Some temples are still offering in the original ascending order (like Los Angeles). Gaura Keshava offensively wrote March 29, 2009: “… we must follow the shastra, and not imitate his personal example when it does not technically follow shastra. The system of arotike in all Gaudiya Vaishnava temples is to first pay obeisance to the guru and take his permission for worshipping Lord Krishna. 

"Then worship Krishna first and then Radha, then Mahaprabhu and the guru parampara in descending (senior to junior) order, lastly to the assembled devotees. In ISKCON Srila Prabhupada instituted another order offering the items to the guru first. In this case, the item cannot technically be offered afterwards to the Lord, having first been enjoyed by the guru. This is technically not correct. 

"Therefore we must in this case follow shastra and adapt our worship method to the one followed by all Vaishnava sampradayas. The doctrine or principle of worshiping the guru first is correct but the technicality of HOW that is to be done is incorrect. 

"This system is followed in most Europe temples where I standardized the deity worship in the 1980’ s. It is not followed in some temples like Los Angeles, as some Prabhupada disciples find it hard to accept. They have no experience of the correct technical details as practiced in India.”