Black Magic / Hladini / CC Dasa Writes / Nama Rasa / Sivarama 09 28

BLACK MAGIC

PADA: A number of victims took their own lives, and a greater number had their lives destroyed by many other means -- making them damaged or dysfunctioning adults. This was the result of their being ritualistically abused. There are plenty of evidences these events occurred in fact. 

I know many victims -- and almost all of them are boycotting ISKCON and they are many times unfavorable to the Krishna religion. They were sacrificed for the "geater good" of making a Saudi prince jet set lifestyle for the orchestrators of the abuse regime. And they know it. ys pd

MM: No doubt about the fact that abuse has destroyed many lives. Yet, factual accounts of ritualistic child murders are lacking. Does anyone involved with the CPO have knowledge of this? This sounds a bit like the rumors that Black Magic is practiced by managers at the Alachua temple.

One should substantiate such statements with , oh I don’t know, maybe facts?

PADA: Yes, well my Bengali friend told me he overheard the GBC hiring a tantric to place a curse on me that would "damage my head so I would not be able to think." After that, Satsvarupa, Hansadutta, Harikesha, Jaggadisha and others complained of severe headaches. Jayatirtha's head was removed. Jayapataka had a stroke etc. My Bengali friend told me, the curse came back to sender because it was not destined to harm me. 

But yeah, I have heard of various black magic folks involved with the GBC. My ex-witch friend says -- offering food to deviants will make the people who eat it get sick, have mental problems, fall down, and maybe depart untimely. She thinks their whole operation is black magic top to bottom. And yes people have departed untimely, maybe there is no proof there was some specific ceremony, but the whole thing causes premature departures for sure. 

Causing people to depart prematurely is happening in their field of action on a regular basis, ok whether or not they are doing it in a specific time and directly is up for debate. The fact that children in their operation have such memories is a sign of something terrible in any case. ys pd

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LEGACY OF LOVE

 

Hare Krsna Dear Devotees, please accept my dandavat pranam. Srila Prabhupada Ki Jai!

I have some copies of the Legacy of Love: A Servant's Quest arriving next week. This is a newly published reprint done by a disciple of Srila Prabhupada. The book is $6 and shipping via USPS Media Mail from New York is $4. The total is $10.
This book is a biographical sketch of Srimate Hladini Devi Dasi who went back to Godhead while preaching in Liberia.

H.H. Bhakti Tirtha Swami writes in the foreword: Everyone needs friends to confide in, mentors for guidance, and powerful role models to inspire us. One can find all of these three qualities in Hladini Mataji. This book will be a tremendous help, and a source of inspiration to all those who read it.

H.H. Radhanath Swami writes in the introduction: She had the power to make everyone happy, even amidst the most depressing conditions of life. Her devotion irresistibly swept people toward Krishna like the current of the river Ganges. . . . In her glorious passing from this world she personified the perfection of renunciation. She graciously gave up her life in the service of the Lord’s beloved devotees.

Please send me a private message if you're interested (USA Only)

PADA: OK and Bhakti Tirtha sent her to a civil war zone which the US State Department had declared as unfit for travel. What could go wrong here pilgrims? OK a person could get chopped up with machetes, and that would be the good way to go, because others had tires placed around their necks and were doused with petrol, and lit afire. I would take the machete option myself.   

And Hladini's female travel mate was almost killed, and she said that they were sent there on purpose because Hladini was going to expose Bhakti Tirtha's love letters he had sent Hladini. So this might be a case of -- love -- misplaced. Forward by Bhakti Tritha swami, oh please!

ys pd

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From Caitanya Chandra Das Prabhuji

There were many incidents in the past of our movement that, putting it mildly, were far from ideal. People who would put their trust in spiritual authorities would end up being deceived. Up to this day, that's a great scar that many of us are still struggling to surpass.

Why Krsna did not intervene and make our society perfect from day one?
In parenting, we quickly learn that we can't do everything for our children; frequently we just need to allow them to commit mistakes and learn from them the hard way. My personal understanding of it is that if Krsna would mystically intervene every time something wrong was about to happen, perhaps we as a society would not learn the lessons we are supposed to learn. Probably we would not mature in the way we are supposed to do.

When there is a war, always many innocent persons suffer. The man in charge, the one who started it, is surely responsible, and he will have to pay for his acts, be here or in hell. However, there are always people who could have intervened and done something but chose to be negligent. 

To a smaller degree, they are also responsible. Finally, there are other people who were not directly affected by the situation and thus chose to ignore what was happening. Although on a much smaller scale, they also share part of the responsibility. Without their voluntary or involuntary cooperation, things could not have happened the way they did.

Similarly, when we speak about problems our movement faced in the past, we are forced to confront the uncomfortable truth that we also share a certain parcel of responsibility for the events that happened around us. Maybe we could have done something to prevent some of these situations but chose to not do it, maybe we deep inside knew that someone was doing something wrong, but chose to not act on it because it was not our business, maybe we supported some leader who abused his position, or maybe we chose to observe something from afar instead of getting involved.

Reflecting on what went wrong and whatever role we played in it is part of the process we must go through to understand what happened, learn from it, and prevent the same thing from happening again. Conversely, when we exempt ourselves from all responsibility, we may not learn anything and as a result, the same mistakes may be repeated over and over.

Constructing a perfect society demands us to become mature as individuals. Leaders have an important role, and they also have a great parcel of responsibility when things go wrong, but without maturity from the individuals, society will remain flawed, regardless of how perfect or imperfect the leaders may be. Indeed, if most members are flawed, they will tend to elect or support flawed leaders, exacerbating the problems.

We can see that the qualification of the leaders is important, but the general qualification of the society is what produces qualified leaders and creates the conditions for them to make the necessary changes in the first place. These two things can thus only go hand in hand. It's very difficult to improve society without first improving ourselves as individuals, and problems are, in my humble understanding, one of the tools Krsna uses to foment that.

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PADA: Nama Rasa seems too only interview people favorable to the GBC regime, and not us. Now he is evidently making a studio where he intends to only make "in person" interviews, which again, seems to handily avoid any of us participating. He was on vacation for a long time and we think he is seeing that avoiding us is not making his audience happy. Many of them want to hear the other side of the story. In other words, having a big studio is great, but if there is slanted news that sympathizes with and enables the regime, not so great. ys pd 

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Shivarama Swami

“Shivaram Swami is a self-appointed, vote rubber-stamp ISKCON GBC approved initiating guru and GBC, and is in charge of UK, Hungary, Romania, and Turkey, essentially his acharya zone. He has developed a large farm project in Hungary. He was heavily involved with Narayan Maharaja and the rasika guru episode of 1990-1995, and wrote fictional books about Lord Krishna’s intimate pastimes with the gopis. He received much criticism for this, but never admitted any fault. He is known as a hardline manager who takes a heavy hand with all opposition or views differing from his own or those of the GBC. IRM has published a small book chronicling the numerous defects and deviations in Shivaram’s lectures and conversations whereby he not only contradicts Srila Prabhupada’s teachings but also himself. He has been dishonestly inconsistent, saying one thing and entirely the opposite later. This is unique to those who improvise as they go along and operate on the relative mental platform. He likes to take luxury vacations at the expense of his disciples. Regarding some of his philosophical confusion and inconsistencies, see: http:// www.iskconirm.com/ docs/ webpages/ srs7. htm. SHIVARAMA INVITES HINDU MAYAVADIS TO ISKCON TEMPLE There are two excerpts from Back to Prabhupada magazine showing Shivaram Swami inviting mayavadi Hindu “spiritualists” to ISKCON’s Bhaktivedanta Manor near London. First account (BTP): “A year ago, in ‘Bhaktivedanta Manor Promotes Sai Baba in British Media’ we warned of the consequences of disobeying Srila Prabhupada’s instructions by associating with atheists, false gurus, mayavadis, and supporters of Sai Baba just for cheap popularity. Srila Prabhupada as follows: (1) “‘ They are clearly rejecting all these bogus rascals like Sai Baba... Actually these rascals are simply creating magic and jugglery. Even during the time of Krishna, Paundraka was there and Krishna immediately cut off his head. That is the only punishment for them, to immediately cut off the head of such rascals who pose themselves as God. They are simply”

— DEVIATIONS SPOILING THE SANKIRTAN MOVEMENT by Prabhupada Truth Commission
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