Narayan Higgins VS PADA "Blame the Children Victims"

PADA: Wow pilgrims! The reason so many children were molested in ISKCON is -- these children wanted to be cheated -- and so they made the wrong choice of gurus! That is what the Narayan Maharaja folks [Narayan Higgins] said before and are STILL SAYING now. OK so if children are hurt or killed in an unsafe child product, like a faulty car seat, it is because these children "made the wrong choice of car seat." The children victims are to blame for their own suffering or death.  

Wait! The children have had nothing to do with choosing their car seat, that is up to the adults. And the adults should make sure these products are safe, not the toddlers in the car seats.

And the adults who made these choices of gurus for the ISKCON children were people like Narayan Maharaja. He was promoting the GBC's guru system that was victimizing these children. But the children wanted to be cheated. What! 

Victim blaming and shaming on steroids! No wonder some of their victims are taking their lives, they are being blamed for their own mistreatment. Why? That takes the cheer leading advocates for the GBC's guru system off the hook, ok like NM. Now the Narayan people are starting a cow hugging program, after they first of all started a homosexual and pedophile messiah's hugging program by NM going to hug Kirtanananda.  

Hawaiian Narayan (Higgins): Why you always living in the 90s bro. You need some cows.

PADA: No, the GBC's photos are still on the altars now? The "Guru Reform Notebook" -- which NM co-authored -- made many more -- who are gurus now, like Radhanath. ISKCON is still paying for the $400,000,000 lawsuit now. Victims of their child mistreatment program are still suffering now. 

Many of the NM statements included in GBC documents in the 1980s are still embedded in their documents now. Radhanath is still saying that NM helped save ISKCON now. I am not sure why you guys cannot understand that everything that exists now, was made in the past anyway? 

Yes, NM helped Tamal, and that changed the course of ISKCON, which is still on the same -- off course -- now. Yeah, what happened to a lot of these cows that were in the GBC program that NM endorsed? Good question. ys pd

Hawaiian Narayan: You need some cows bro. Will keep you off the internet. You seem expert at saying nothing but blaming everyone around you... yet you have created and done nothing in 40+ years. Just another bitter old fart living in the past...

Everyone gets the guru they deserve. If you want to cheat Krishna he will send a cheating guru. That's Prabhupada 101. No need to be astonished or obsessed with the fake gurus.

PADA: Right, so when five years old children are getting beaten and raped under the guru program NM supports, these children "wanted to be cheated [and beaten and raped]." Why does Narayan Maharaja think five years old children should choose the gurus of ISKCON. At all? This is like saying, the woman who was raped wanted to be raped because she was wearing the wrong clothes. Victim shaming. And now you are repeating the famous slogans of the NM people, the toddlers wanted to worship NM's bogus gurus, the children victims of the NM program are to blame for their misfortune. 

Sorry, Narayan Maharaja is one of the adults who pre-selected these gurus for these children, because he endorsed the GBC's guru process. The children have had no say in the matter whatever, never mind no one ever even asked these small ISKCON children if they wanted to worship NM's pedophile sex guru process. 

When did NM even bother to get the consent of these children to promote his pedophile guru process for these children? Sorry, he jack booted his program onto these children forcibly. He never asked any of these children if they wanted to worship his pedophile guru process. This is a straw man argument. In sum, asking these children if they wanted to worship pedophiles as their messiahs was NEVER DONE. 

And how can five years old children determine who is a guru and who is not anyway? No, children need to be guided and PROTECTED by the adults. And NM is an adult, and he was cramming his and Tamal's pedophile guru process down the throats of these children. The children were never consulted, and it is a big misleading lie to claim they were. 

Never mind that -- the children actually did not EVER want the molester pooja process, NM wanted that process. If a child gets killed by an unsafe car seat, and the car seat company is sued, the company cannot argue "the child made the wrong choice of car seat." This is a psychopathic argument, our victims wanted to be victims. Nope!

That simply blames the victim. Sorry, NM is the adult in the room, and that means he has to protect children, not tell children to select their guru -- from his pedophile messiah's club -- when they are only five years old. And what selection do the children get? Maybe illicit sex deviants, drunks, perverts and so on -- populated in the NM / GBC guru process.

Hawaiian Narayan (Higgins): If you ACTUALLY cared, you would have handled it like a man back in the 80s. But you did nothing and have done nothing since. I think you're ashamed of your own inaction and inability and use others faults as a smokescreen.

PADA: Yep, but the Narayan folks said all along, you are too heavy, you are too critical, you are offending Tamal etc. So they were already upset I was handling it at all. Now you guys are arguing -- I was not heavy enough. Sheesh!

And your guys criticisms suppressed us, and is this is how the NM crew caused thousands of kids to be mistreated, they suppressed our complaints. I was one of the few people even making complaints, and that is why the Federal Authorities arrested the three enforcers they sent to get me. 

Anyway, it does not matter what I did or did not do, NM has no authority to promote a child abuse guru regime. Zero. He did not want his victims to get any help from me. I was at least protesting, and as a result my life was in danger from the GBC / NM cult, and then I had to help sue them. 

What did NM do? He helped them. And what is why you guys like him and not me. My children grew up in fear thinking I would be taken out any day, all because of you guys and your regime. You tried to ruin their lives too. 

Sulochana was assassinated and I was "hours away" from being taken out according to the FBI. And who was taking out Sulochana and wanted to take me out? The Tamal and NM program. And we were not doing enough? We could die challenging your regime, and some of us did die. But you did not get enough blood from us yet, you wanted more? Who authorized NM to support a program that has anyone molested, much less -- taken out.

Hawaiian Narayan: You have literally helped nobody. You're like a broken record. I think you are broke and broken. Again, if you were a real man and actually believed the things you were saying, you would have physically stopped these persons. You're a wimp who is ashamed or their wimpiness and now all you do is mutter things in the dark corners of Facebook.

I'm off to milk the cows and introduce dozens of people to Krishna Consciousness and Varnashram Dharma, like I do everyday, ACTUALLY helping people and cows.

Whine about the past, or forge the future.

PADA: OK so there is molesting worldwide, in Lake Huntington, Los Angeles, Mayapur, Vrndavana, New Vrndavana, Australia and all these sorts of places, and one person is going to fly all over the planet and take out everyone in the Tamal and NM program. Which would evidently include the program's cheer leaders like NM. I have to save children by taking out molester guru's cheer leaders like NM. 

Your solution to fix the problems caused by NM is to make a mass world wide violence program -- of Narayan Maharaja and his molester messiahs. But how would one person even do that if they wanted to, they would be arrested after the first incident -- and then no longer able to help address the problem subsequently. No one person could take down thousands of people involved in a molester guru cult worldwide in any case. 

Nor does Srila Prabhupada recommend his followers should take out opponents physically, because for starters that would make even more bad publicity. Why do you guys always want MORE bad publicity. Amazing, the only way to fix Narayan Maharaja's demoniac molester messiah's program is to start a mass violence program. So you can drag down Krishna's name even worse than you already did.

So this is good progress, you are saying NM is essentially a demon who should have been taken out for his supporting their pedophile guru system. And that is why you worship him, you want to worship cheer leaders of pedo-puja, because as you already said, you worship what you want to. 

So you are a big fan of the NM pedophile guru's cult leaders. And you are more or less telling me NM is a really another GBC supporter demon -- who should have been taken out to stop the pedophile cult he was enabling and supporting. OK. But why are you worshiping the demon leaders of that pedophile cult, who you say, should have been taken out?  

And that is how you want to forge the future, tell people that NM and his pedo guru show should have been fixed with violence. But why do we have to fix his program, at all? How is he authorized to make this mayhem for children in the first place. And what does it matter what I did or did not do? He has no authority to promote a pedo guru cult, period. Has nothing to do with me doing anything.

In sum, why does NM promote demoniac / asura / molester guru programs in the first place? And why would you worship a co-conspirator / cheer leader of a mass child molesting guru program like NM yourself? This is amazing, the only way to fix Narayan Maharaja's pedophile worship program is, to take him and his false messiahs out. You are then yourself saying you are promoting the worship of asuras and their cheer leaders and enablers. 

That is the good future? Sorry, pedophile worshiping programs have to go to the lowest regions eventually, according to shastra. We are going to promote a homosexual and pedophile guru program, and you have to fix our program by violence. Where do I sign up?  

Worse! My kids grew up in fear that the people NM was promoting was going to take me out. And while they are in fear -- NM is laughing and joking with the people in the regime who wanted to take me out. He thinks this is all a joke and so do his followers.

So NM is promoting a mass child mistreatment program because he loves to have asuras worshiped as God's successors, which puts me and masses of children into a dangerous state. I agree! So this is amazing, the solution to the NM program is to take out NM and his messiahs, because they are all asuras. 

So why are you worshiping the leaders of the asura's program? This is however good news, you admit that NM and his asura gurus program should have been taken out, because they are asuras. We finally agree on something, your pedo-pooja process is asura!

So I should commit a series of crimes all over the planet, go to jail, and then my kids will not have their father, and there would be no one to help make the lawsuit. Your solution is worse than the problem. Why does your solution involve taking away a father from his kids by having the father in jail. You guys are always all about breaking up families to make children vulnerable. We all know what happens then.

But even if you are right, criminals should be taken down, Srila Prabhupada never said that is the duty or right of his followers. We did however have them sued, and they are still paying for it now. And hundreds of kids were pulled from their schools, I forgot, you said that we helped no one and nothing. 

NM's children victims are nothing - ness to you people, that is called psychopathic. Yeah hundreds of kids were pulled out of their molester schools, but we did nothing for no one, because our NM program's hundreds of child victims are nobody and no one, they don't count. OK you wished they would have remained in your abuse program.

So the suicide epidemic was slowed to almost nothing, hundreds of kids were pulled out of their schools, and many of them thanked me for saving them, but none of these kids are important. They are indeed nothing. 

What is important then? Narayan Maharaja has to go and hug Kirtanananda, that is what is important for you guys. Children are worthless nothings. Kirtanananda is important. And that is because hugging Kirtanananda gives NM a following and helping us help kids does not. Anyway, you lost me when you said the five years old children wanted to worship the NM / GBC pedophile messiahs program -- NM was cramming down their throats. That is the sign of a psychopath, he blames his victims. 

As for violence, I don't need to engage in any personally. The dogs of the Yamaduttas will take care of all these pedophile guru program folks in due course. They will meet with the violence of Yamaraja's agents when the time comes, and it already has for a number of them.

Same type of problem we had with the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Pancali / Krishna Kirtan / Dayalu Nitai HKC Jaipur guys. They thought that our stopping children from dying and or / being molested is "destroying ISKCON," because children being crushed under their feet is a small price to pay to keep their bogus guru regime going. The regime is all that counts for these folks, children do not count. That is unfortunately obvious even to the mundane people. No doubt, obvious to Yamaraja agents as well.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com