Janmashtami Thoughts / Dravida's Vyas Puja / Psychopathy Symptoms Etc. 09 08

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KKD: Some Janmastami thoughts:

The fact that people around the world are celebrating Krishna’s appearance day without ISKCON’s permission is evidence that ISKCON doesn’t own Krishna. God is for all.

Since the Lord’s ‘birth’ can signify new beginnings, you can withdraw from the ritualistic, ‘religious’ ISKCON to capture the simple essence of the spirit of ISKCON in your own way, suited for you.

When ISKCON is an unsafe place to be intelligent, open minded, to speak for justice and truth on behalf of abuse victims, to be independently thoughtful and so on, you can safely take shelter of Krishna. You can make a positive difference to your life without authorities doing it for you. 

If Krishna is for all, He is for you too. He’s all you need. He and His holy name. Why make life so complicated with thousands of laws, edicts, conflicting instructions, peer pressure and thought restrictions?

You can live the life you want to live with Krishna in the centre. Ultimately it’s about thinking about and remembering Krishna – man manah. Is there anything more simpler than this? It’s up to you if you want the simple essence as given by Lord Chaitanya. May this day inspire us to practice Bhakti with the simplicity it deserves.

Ys Kesava Krsna Dasa.

JMD: Agree ... and boycott ISKCON. Don't go there ... unless you have to just for a ceremony every few months. Don't send people there. Do not advertise or fund raise for them. Let the Hindus get the karma of supporting bogus acharyas and avoid them yourself. If you do go, keep it short and do not accept their prasadam that has been offered to nitwits, jerks and offenders.

PADA: Yep. A number of independent programs are being conducted outside the purview of ISKCON, more and more all the time. Or sometimes people go to ISKCON but they are really not big time supporters. They sort of tolerate the bogus gurus temporarily just to see the dieties and etc. 

Of course we also have contacts who are going to ISKCON on a regular basis, but they believe that our Prabhupadanuga idea is the correct one, and the GBC gurus are bogus. Which is why it is said "you cannot kill an idea whose time has come." Meanwhile ISKCON leaders are just going more full on Hindu hodge podge / Motivational Counselling Services etc. Their idea that we need to worship debauchees as messiahs is failing more everyday. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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DRAVIDA'S VYASA PUJA OFFERING

[PADA: Oh really? The guru is as good as God. The guru should be worshiped just as God is worshiped. Therefore! Our wonderful Dravida program wants to make -- illicit sex with men, women and children deviants -- worshiped as the God's guru successors. And this is what they are finding in the Vedas?

And let us also place assorted homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, porno swamis, drunks, drug addicts, condom wearing with the therapist, Las Vegas gamblers, assorted crooks, embezzlers and clowns in the "good as God" guru seat. And let us make "gurus" who are having illicit sex with followers [which Srila Prabhupada says is a type of incest and / or pedophile sex with one's own daughter]. 

And then, with this wonderful program, we can spread mass child abuse all over the ISKCON society, and create a MASS of bad public media from banning, beating, suing and assassinating dissenters -- never mind child molesting lawsuits and etc. And ISKCON can be sued for mass child abuse and be declared as bankrupt. As an added bonus, we can orchestrate a system to ban, beat, sue and assassinate anyone who does not think all our pedo-puja process / molesting / lawsuits / murders is a good plan! 

And then voila!, we can make ISKCON into a ghost town, and alienate the second generation, and alienate the mass of devotees, and even alienate the general public wholesale. And all this is great because "it is as good as God." Has anyone asked God what His opinion of all this is? 

We already know that false gurus and their supporters [Dravida] have to go to the most obnoxious regions. I think the reasons are self-explanatory. Yep, we now have had Vyasa puja for homosexuals, pedophiles and who knows what. A friend of mine in India says he thinks most of the current leaders of ISKCON are in fact homosexuals, and thus "if you throw a rock at a group of ISKCON managers, your changes of hitting a homo are good." That is the perception they have created.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

September 8, 1981: On this date in history 42 years ago, during a darshan at Prabhupada's Palace of Gold, Hridayananda Goswami claims, “Kirtanananda is . . . always more intelligent.”

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Psychopathy Symptoms (Robert Hare): (1) Glib And Superficial Charm (2) Grandiose Self-Worth (3) Need For Stimulation, Prone To Boredom. (4) Pathological Lying (5) Conning And Manipulative (6) Lack Of Remorse Or Guilt (7) Shallow Affect (Callousness And Lack Of Empathy) (9) Parasitic Lifestyle (10) Poor Behavior Controls (11) Promiscuous Sexual Behavior (12) Early Behavior Problems (13) Lack Of Realistic, Long-Term Goals (14) Impulsivity (15) Irresponsibility (16) Failure To Accept Responsibility For Own Actions (17) Many Short-Term Relationships (18) Criminal Versatility Many names come to mind from this list of symptoms. 

Kirtanananda, Tamal, Harikesh, Hrdayananda, Bhavananda, Radhanath, Bhakticharu jump off the page, although there are many others. Perhaps, after the original 11 zonals, ISKCON psychopaths have learned to be more discrete and disguised. Psychopaths can only operate where foolish or naïve persons fail to recognize their condition. NARCISSISM Narcissism is excessive interest in oneself, extreme selfishness and self-centeredness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration. 

In Greek mythology, young Narcissus fell in love with his own reflection in a pool of water. Some of the traits of a narcissist are: Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (their narcissistic supply); Pretending to be more important than they actually are; Bragging (subtly but persistently) to exaggerate their achievements; Difficulty with empathy; and hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults. The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism (2003) lists the symptoms: (1) shamelessness (2) magical thinking (illusions of perfection) (3) arrogance (4) envy (5) entitlement (6) exploitation (7) bad boundaries (others exist to meet their needs).”

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PADA: Yep, Bhakti Vikas swami says acharyas are always falling down into illusion, and therefore he is there to "advise, correct and chastise the acharyas." That is good news! Because normally Krishna dictates to the acharyas, but now BVKS dicates to Krishna! So we finally know who Krishna's advisor is. Yep, Bhakti vikas swami is now advertised as "the sum total of the sum total of the sum total of the demigods -- and the new advisor to the parampara," because Krishna has been doing a lousy job. I would find it amazing that BVKS thinks he is WAY better than Krishna, but they do this stuff all the time. It is typical of out of control egos. BVKS has tossed out Krishna dictating to the acharyas, and he is taking over Krishna's job. What an ego! ys pd

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