PADA: In the end -- the rasika and sahajiya idea is to establish that Srila Prabhupada is defective, and he has failed to give us rasika. So we have to go "somewhere else" to find the higher nectar -- and to find the so-called rasika process, because Srila Prabhupada cannot deliver "the higher teachings."
Of course as a general rule, desiring to have spiritual perfection or the higher rasa with Krishna is very auspicious. We should desire to have that as our life's destination. However, if we jump off the specific train track given by the acharyas, our train crashes and does not attain the destination. And worse, the passengers can be injured badly in the process of deviating from the path.
Therefore, we need to find the proper source for spiritual perfection. And the process given by the acharya is -- chant Krishna's name, read the books of the acharya, and patiently WAIT for the perfectional stage to descend from the higher plane to come to us by Krishna's will. This cannot be forced artificially.
And going to people like Mahanidhi -- same people who supported the GBC's molester messiah's guru's program for 10 years -- is not the proper source of knowledge. In addition, Mahanidhi also went to the Babajis -- whom Srila Prabhupada said are like drinking poison, and is basically consulting the residents of narakah or hell.
So they went to the wrong well and started drinking poisoned water. And then when folks like Nityananda go on their rasika search -- they might end up following Mahanidi -- evidently not knowing or caring about the history of Mahanidi -- including -- that he has had sexual attraction for a married woman disciple, who has grown up children.
This is self evidently one of the most disgusting forms of sexual attraction. Srila Prabhupada says -- a "guru" -- who has an affair with a disciple -- is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter. That makes Mahanidhi in the same class as a child molester and abuser. Sorry, but worshiping a de facto child molester, never mind one of the former supporters of the GBC's mass molesting guru process, is not going to give anyone rasika.
And this deviant process destroys the lives of many other victims. Imagine the children of the mother Mahanadi is having an affair with? This will cause those children to have severe doubts and misconceptions about the Krishna religion. And this is not new. There are thousands of other children from ISKCON that the Mahanidhi process poisoned previously, who NOW do not like the Krishna religion. Or even, some of his program's gurukula victims despise Krishna and His religion. That is because they were poisoned by the Mahanidhi process of worshiping conditioned souls as rasika.
These Mahanidhi's ilk folks gave thousands and thousands of children the wrong impression of Krishna acting as enforcers for the deviant GBC. Srila Prabhupada says -- going to the Babajis will have malefic effect. It will destroy the Krishna religion. And we see that practically. Just like here in the Bay Area, many folks went to Narayan Maharaja for the alleged higher rasika program, but many of them ended up supporting Tamal's molester messiah's regime and smoking pot etc. -- and not getting any rasiika. Ever. Did I forget to mention we could smell their pot house / temple a block away?
In other words. These people are attacking the bona fide process given by the bona fide acharyas -- as faulty, incomplete, insufficient, defective. We need to find the higher process somewhere else, other than what is given by the acharya.
Now some people have criticized me for attacking "the little guys" like Mahanadi, Nityananda, the HKC Jaipur folks, and other small -- supposedly insignificant -- programs. Unfortunately, these programs often start off as a small seed, and grow into big scale deviations affection many people.
For example, Mahanidhi was a big supporter of the GBC's guru process, he is not a little guy, he was one of the prominent leaders of these deviations. HKC Jaipur sided with the GBC over the molesting issue, and they were infuriated that PADA was halting their mass molesting guru program. In fact they were worried that their ISKCON gurus would lose their stolen booty money, but they have no problem with losing the lives of their victims. So they are little guys, who support the much bigger malefic agenda, even an agenda that abuses children and causes their victims to take their own lives.
In any case, same thing -- the babajis were also not a big program in 1971, but Srila Prabhupada went -- way out of his way -- and criticized them because he knows how little seeds of deviations -- can grow to monster proportions.
The same deviations as the babajis -- artificial pure devotees -- took down ISKCON. And they started out as small seeds and eventually overtook the whole society. So we should beware of even a small seed of deviation, knowing how these seeds can grow to monstrous sized programs.
And these artificial pure devotee programs victimize women, children, and devotees in general. And ruin the good name of Krishna. Which is what the babajis have done in India, their bogus gurus have discredited the religion, and this has turned off the public from the religion.
So we should alert others to these deviations and explain the the reason Srila Prabhupada was always warning us about these deviations. Now this Nityananda person has started blocking all of our friends, because evidently he has no explanation for any of this.
Perhaps he should just admit, his promoting the Babaji program is an attack on Srila Prabhupada. It is saying his process is defective. Incomplete. And therefore, the babajis are dangerous for the Vaishnava community, and for the world's population at large.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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Zen Master: These false teachers often get their followers to burn off all their social ... and economic ties ... to the world. That makes the leaders the only relationship and shelter. The follower is now dependent ... 100% ... on the leader for his thinking, acting, and usually ... his economics.
After that ... none of the former friends trust the follower who has burned all his bridges. Now he is stuck ... working 100% with the leader. It is all about psychological manipulation of cults. Physical manipulation starts by keeping them penned into the cult compound ... all part of the scheme.
GBC member and attorney Balavanta das was disgusted when the GBC axed his two year investigation (Ch. 43) that had given reason to further investigate Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning. The same hour he gave his report, March 2, 2000, the GBC endorsed the prime suspects’ secretly produced and financed, sham whitewash book Not That I Am Poisoned (Ch. 50-52), and they declared there was no poisoning, banning even discussion of it in ISKCON at the risk of expulsion.
It became clear that any further investigative program would need be fully independent of the GBC, since they would not cooperate, and without their knowledge as well, so not to invite sabotage or interference from them. The poison issue had received widespread publicity as everyone around ISKCON knew about the hair test with high arsenic, the poison whispers and discussions, and Srila Prabhupada’s statements about being poisoned.
SHPM (Ch. 42) had really rocked the ISKCON boat, but by a flood of denials and obfuscation, the GBC had managed to quiet the storm. While the evidence had convinced many that Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned, and this deeply disturbed them, many paid little attention to the whispers or even Srila Prabhupada’s own words of being poisoned, wanting instead more “scientific” proofs.
RE: Mahanidhi Cult
After that ... none of the former friends trust the follower who has burned all his bridges. Now he is stuck ... working 100% with the leader. It is all about psychological manipulation of cults. Physical manipulation starts by keeping them penned into the cult compound ... all part of the scheme.
And modern Hare Krishnas is non-different these days. Many of the modern Krishna devotees have the "lost deer in the headlights" look. You can see it yourself ... unless you are under the same spell as them.
After the follower burns his bridges ... he may find it hard ... to nearly impossible ... to regain the lost trust in the people he burned out. "Lost trust cannot be purchased back for any amount of money." I feel bad for these lost cult people ... they are just burnt victims.
And it happens everywhere, Buddhism, Christianity, Hindu gurus, anywhere there is a spiritual leader demanding 100% loyalty. Once the lost soul falls into the rabbit hole of surrendering control of their lives ... they might not ever dig out ... ever.
Glad you are exposing them. I have seen the same thing happen with similar "I am the only path to God" leadership cults. It really can destroy people's lives. At least some will be saved by reading about how their scheme works. Hope some people can be saved ... and won't fall into the same bottomless pit.
Not even new. People thought they were going to heaven ... if they joined the Crusades. Except most of the time ... they are not going up to heaven, they are going down into lower ignorance. Or going to hell and not heaven. And maybe madness. Further away from heaven than when they started. I try to save people from this thinking myself ... it can be worse darkness than even regular TV addicted society. Good luck with your work.
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Excerpt: VOL. ONE: Srila Prabhupada's Triumphant Departure
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0923519122
After the follower burns his bridges ... he may find it hard ... to nearly impossible ... to regain the lost trust in the people he burned out. "Lost trust cannot be purchased back for any amount of money." I feel bad for these lost cult people ... they are just burnt victims.
And it happens everywhere, Buddhism, Christianity, Hindu gurus, anywhere there is a spiritual leader demanding 100% loyalty. Once the lost soul falls into the rabbit hole of surrendering control of their lives ... they might not ever dig out ... ever.
Glad you are exposing them. I have seen the same thing happen with similar "I am the only path to God" leadership cults. It really can destroy people's lives. At least some will be saved by reading about how their scheme works. Hope some people can be saved ... and won't fall into the same bottomless pit.
Not even new. People thought they were going to heaven ... if they joined the Crusades. Except most of the time ... they are not going up to heaven, they are going down into lower ignorance. Or going to hell and not heaven. And maybe madness. Further away from heaven than when they started. I try to save people from this thinking myself ... it can be worse darkness than even regular TV addicted society. Good luck with your work.
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Excerpt: VOL. ONE: Srila Prabhupada's Triumphant Departure
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0923519122
CHAPTER 2:
GBC ABANDONS UNTESTED HAIR SAMPLES
THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATION CARRIES ON
THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATION CARRIES ON
GBC member and attorney Balavanta das was disgusted when the GBC axed his two year investigation (Ch. 43) that had given reason to further investigate Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning. The same hour he gave his report, March 2, 2000, the GBC endorsed the prime suspects’ secretly produced and financed, sham whitewash book Not That I Am Poisoned (Ch. 50-52), and they declared there was no poisoning, banning even discussion of it in ISKCON at the risk of expulsion.
Naveen Krishna and Balavanta resigned as GBC members. Naveen naively tried, with other senior devotees, to create an impartial tribunal for a full and honest investigation in cooperation with the GBC (Ch. 45). But the GBC’s heavy hand blocked all efforts for further investigation as they hammered the poison issue into political oblivion. March 2, 2000 was ISKCON’s Tiananmen Square massacre of the truth. By 2001 even the private investigation was at a dead end, and the issue was stalemated.
It became clear that any further investigative program would need be fully independent of the GBC, since they would not cooperate, and without their knowledge as well, so not to invite sabotage or interference from them. The poison issue had received widespread publicity as everyone around ISKCON knew about the hair test with high arsenic, the poison whispers and discussions, and Srila Prabhupada’s statements about being poisoned.
However, many doubts had been sowed by ISKCON’s GBC, who flatly denied it all as being “beyond absurd,” deeming it poisonous for anyone’s spiritual welfare. Very few had even a basic understanding of the actual facts, and the zaniest things were repeated, such as it was impossible, blasphemous, Kali’s trick, and based on no real evidence. ISKCON’s GBC had successfully confused its members and congregations, indoctrinating their blind followers.
SHPM (Ch. 42) had really rocked the ISKCON boat, but by a flood of denials and obfuscation, the GBC had managed to quiet the storm. While the evidence had convinced many that Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned, and this deeply disturbed them, many paid little attention to the whispers or even Srila Prabhupada’s own words of being poisoned, wanting instead more “scientific” proofs.
And the 2.6 ppm arsenic hair test seemed to them rather inconclusive. Their secularly conditioned minds demanded court-quality, convictable evidence before accepting Srila Prabhupada was homicidally poisoned. They had more faith in science than in Srila Prabhupada’s words (Ch. 15).
How could scientific, irrefutable proof settle this issue? There was nothing more important for the future health of the Hare Krishna movement than historically establishing the truth about Srila Prabhupada’s departure, one way or the other. The problems in the movement could never be resolved without this issue being irrefutably resolved.
A small team of ISKCON “outsiders” decided to undertake more fact-finding and research. Those in the private investigation would have to use their own resources. Nityananda examined loose ends, studied NTIAP and SHPM, organized files of the evidence, scoured the internet, and gradually another book project coalesced. A thorough response was to be compiled, addressing the GBC denials, and including further facts, evidence, and forensic tests on audio recordings and hair samples, all made into a master compilation of all the evidence that established Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning beyond doubt.
Nityananda and Naveen commissioned several more audio forensic studies on the poison whispers. He liaised with the contingent of Asian private investigative devotees and retired from his business life, spending long days writing and studying. Almost two decades passed living in the far-off islands of Hawaii, Panama, and Fiji as the new evidence book took shape, interspersed with episodes of experimental simple living projects. But in 2001 the need was to find and test more Srila Prabhupada hair samples.
SEARCH FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA 1977 HAIR SAMPLES
Testing Sample Q-1 by Dr. Steve Morris in 1999 showed 2.6 ppm arsenic, and was a big step forward in the poisoning investigation. If further hair tests produced multiple confirmations of abnormally high levels of arsenic (or other poisons), the proof of poisoning would be final. We believed Srila Prabhupada when he said he was being poisoned; what we needed was more proof for doubters.
Multiple confirmations would eliminate any possibility that the first test result was a fluke. There were perhaps 10 or 20 devotees who still had samples of Srila Prabhupada’s hair, kept as sacred keepsakes. To do further forensic hair tests, we set out to locate hair samples cut in 1977. This was our investigative priority. The two samples Balavanta had sent to Dr. Morris were dated well before 1977. The first dramatic downturn in Srila Prabhupada’s health on July 20, 1976 was seen as the likely starting date of poisoning, so we wanted hair cut after that date.
But no other 1977 samples could be found even after much effort. We did not know that GBC agents in late 1999 had obtained two certified 1977 Srila Prabhupada hair samples, but that they failed to complete any test on them.
MD: I know all about it. Mahanidhi was a big sevaka and enforcer of the GBC's gurus. Then he joined Tamal to run off to Narayan Maharaja -- when all of his GBC friends went there. Aindra was arguing with him ... all the time ... about how he was going off from Srila Prabhupada and he was misleading others. And he was draining ISKCON of hundreds of man power and assets.
ReplyDeleteBut Mahanidhi does not care for good instruction. When the GBC cut off Narayan, then he went off more and more to the babajis -- so he could stay in the good graces of the GBC. The GBC was only stopping him from coming for some time -- when they feared his affair with his married woman disciple might make a lawsuit.
He always helps the GBC attack the ritviks, and he says there is no precedent for worshiping a posthumous guru. He has helped the GBC with their deviations the whole time and he still does attack the ritviks. When we heard he was staying in Vrndavana for good, that was great news for us, good riddance to bad rubbish.
PADA: Yes, the deviants always want us to worship other deviants, if not affairs with married women babajis -- and not actual pure devotees. I believe they took Aindra down because he was making too many complaints about them. ys pd