Question About ISKCON UK / Gurukuli Victims Situation 09 13

To: B ***** (UK)

Thanks for your question about ISKCON in the United Kingdom. You are one of many persons who started to research Hare Krishna and you found my materials. I know a lot of people there are attracted to Krishna, but as you pointed out, they have reservations about the ISKCON Institution -- for good reasons. And yes, most of the European folks have abandoned ISKCON and it caters mainly to the Hindus. 

I was one of the original people in the UK in 1978 to challenge the "guru appointment" of Srila Jayatirtha. And most / almost all of my God brothers in the UK at that time did not support my protest. 

Rather, people like Adi karta, Aniha, Vichitravirya, Danavir, Tribanghananda, Rohini Nandan, Ranchor, Prabhavishnu, Mahavishnu, Vipramukha -- and really almost all of the senior devotees in ISKCON UK at the time -- thought I was "making an offense" by challenging Jayatirtha. 

Later on, Jayatirtha formed up "The Peace Krishnas" which was really just a front for selling designer drugs. And then JT left with hundreds of devotees, and the UK zone went just about bankrupted because the manpower was wiped out and they had to give up Croome Court building. And then some of these same UK devotees became "gurus" like Prabhavishnu, who also fell down, and Sivarama etc. 

And because of JT's propensity to have affairs with female disciples, a disgruntled follower decapitated Jayatirtha, thinking -- we have to get rid of this asura who is ruining the lives of thousands of people. 

Originally. I said -- since Jayatirtha is having an affair with a disciple, this is really the same as Srila Prabhupada saying -- when a guru is having an affair with a disciple -- it is like a father having sex with his own daughter. So it is a form of pedophile sex. Unfortunately, almost none of the UK devotees cared about these kinds of statements from Srila Prabhupada. Most of them still don't care what he says on these matters.

There was one devotee named Tribhuvanath who agreed with me. And he was living in a junk car in the Hindu temple parking lots. But he was one of the few people there who agreed with me -- that we cannot worship a pedophile or a de facto pedophile as God's successor. 

So what this comes down to is -- a classic case of bait and switch. Same thing happened to me just now. The sign in the store window said "premium vacuums on sale now for $99." Of course, when I went into the store, the $99 was out of stock -- and they tried to get me to take the $250 model. Bait and switch.

Yes sign me up! Let us worship Krishna and His pure devotee. But who is that pure devotee? Well, it might be someone other than an actual disciple of Krishna. In fact, it might be a disciple of Jimmy Saville, Andy Warhol, Benny Hill, Clarabell the Clown, Rasputin, Jack the Ripper, or assorted drunks, drug addicts, sexual predators, pedophiles, deviants, and people you do not want to confront in a dark alley -- ok vicious criminals. So they told us to worship a pure devotee, but they provided impure persons in place of pure devotees. Bait and switch.

They keep Krishna in front to get us attracted initially, but as soon as we are attracted to Krishna, they switch everything around and they want you to worship. their homosexual and / or pedophile Messiah's Club's "gurus." Even recently. I had an exchange with a UK devotee named Aniha. And Aniha was arguing that people cannot worship Srila Prabhupada anymore, because that would be like worshipping Jesus. 

OK swell. Who should we worship instead? Right, how did you guess, Aniha's Jimmy Savile guru sampradaya -- and their various homosexual and pedophile messiah's friends. Whom else? So Aniha is in Leicester, and thus I can only assume that the ISKCON temple there is also promoting the Jimmy Savile disciples' pedo pooja guru sampradaya there as well. Yep, why should we worship Jesus when we can worship disciples of Andy Warhol and Jimmy Savile? 

Worse, those of us who desire to worship Prabhupada are often banned, beaten, sued and sometimes assassinated. Some of my associates were banned from Bhaktivedanta Manor because they did not want to surrender to the homosexual and pedophile guru process promoted there now. 

And there are even burying their pedophile messiahs in samadhi in the holy Dham. So, unfortunately none of this has been cleared up in all this time, even up to recently. The big guru for UK has been Sivaram Swami -- who was saying we need to give payment compensation to Bhakti Vidya Purna swami, one of the worst case administrators of ISKCON Mayapur, where children reported getting beaten and raped. We need to pay compensation to the leaders of that program, and not the victims, some of whom have committed suicide. 

Now the female secretary of Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami was just given a VIP welcome in Mayapur. So they are still propping up the members of the regime that has created all sorts of mass child molesting. And so you are right to question the validity of the current system and worship going on currently in UK. 

I don't really see how ISKCON has made any improvement in all this time. Rather now they are just saying -- it is common for gurus to be another Jimmy Savile, if not to fall into illicit behaviors with men, women and children. And that is the standard for gurus that they have manufactured. 

Another devotee from the UK said the reason the Jimmy Saville worship process went on for so long is that the British people don't really like to challenge the status quo system, whatever it is. And so they tend to tolerate all sorts of rubbish as their leaders and gurus without protesting. And that allows malefic people to become bogus messiahs in their Kingdom. 

Perhaps!

So I would caution you from surrendering to the official members of this kind of a cult in the UK. Is there one good ISKCON leader there we can find there? Good question. I can't think of even one who is not part of the Jimmy Savile guru succession over there. 

The good news is -- more people are giving them up. And they are rejecting the official GBC guru system in the UK and worldwide. But it is taking time. So in the meantime? I recommend people simply follow Srila Prabhupada, read his books, and take shelter his instructions. And avoid the UK ISKCON disciples of Andy Warhol, Benny Hill, Jimmy Saville, Rasputin Etc. 

Sorry I cannot provide a more positive reply. I also had to have their regime sued for mass child abuse in Dallas for $400,000,000. But even after that, they did not learn, rather they installed an even more abusive regime in Mayapur with evidently an increase in child beatings and rapes. 

Of course, what would one expect from the disciples of Jimmy Savile? So yes, this is a classic bait and switch, you can worship Jesus, but if you don't agree that Jimmy Savile is the successor to Jesus, we will beat on you with shoes and have you removed from ISKCON, just like they removed me from UK ISKCON. Below is a video about some of the UK history.

ys pd

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PADA: When I was helping the ex-kulis with their lawsuit in Los Angeles, some of the parents came up and starting yelling and shouting obscenities at -- me -- for "destroying ISKCON." One of the parents told me he threatened his own children -- who were victims -- if they signed up for the court case, they would be banished and disowned. There has been a lot of pressure on many of these children NOT to protest their mistreatment. In other words, suffer in silence to protect the regime and its leaders.

And there still is a lot of pressure on many of these ex-kulis not to speak up. One of the female former victims is a good friend of mine. She was molested by a powerful guru. And she says -- if I speak up about it now, I will become persona non-grata overnight around here. And me and my kids will be banished from the community. So it is not only the leaders who caused all this process, they had many rank and file helpers, sycophants, hand maidens, assistants, apologists, enablers, and even senior people who acted as legal counsel to save the leaders from legal action.

Evidently that also happened to the victims who were involved in Scientology, the wider community ganged up on the victims to suppress them. Same thing in the Catholic Church, many times the congregations folks suppressed the victims. And this has created a whole atmosphere of hiding the truth, which unfortunately has lead to a repeated fresh wave of more victims. ys pd

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The following piece was written by one of Sri Radhe's former students in what was then known as BVP 's girls school in Mayapur dham.

It offers a raw and powerful glimpse in the world and daily challenges, of a young devotee woman that, as a child, suffered greatly as the result of ISKCON's systemic failure to prioritize the protection and wellbeing of its children.

Child abuse affects generations, it doesn't magically go away.
In the photo Sri Radhe, the former principal of the girl's Gurukula in Mayapur, under AV, fka BVP.

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Childhood trauma and abuse cast a long shadow over my life, affecting almost every aspect of my existence. These deep scars go beyond the traumatic events themselves, creeping into adulthood and shaping the course of my life in profound ways.

The impact of childhood trauma shows up in my life as recurring nightmares that feel like a never-ending horror movie, invading the peace of my sleep. My relationships, be they friendships or romantic, often feel like navigating a minefield. Trust is hard-won and vulnerability feels like stepping into the unknown. Sometimes, panic attacks strike without warning, making me feel like the world is closing in on me.

But perhaps the most painful part is what it's done to my self-worth and confidence. I carry this heavy load of guilt and shame, thinking that somehow I was to blame for what happened to me. It eats away at my self-esteem, making it tough to see my own worth.

What makes it all even more isolating is that it feels like no one understands. To others, it might seem like I just had a tough time with a teacher or someone in authority. They can't see the whole picture, the fear that grips me when I encounter my abuser, the memories that come flooding back, or the emotional turmoil that follows.

When the authorities or community leaders grant special treatment to my abuser, right in front of everyone, it's like they're saying my pain doesn't matter. It feels like they're brushing aside the torment I've been through. It's so disheartening.
I wish these authorities would take the time to truly understand child abuse and how it affects survivors. They need to be educated about the deep and lasting impacts it has. Only then can they create an environment where survivors like me can feel safe, heard, and supported.

Understanding this is not just about doing the right thing morally, but it's a crucial step in rebuilding trust and integrity within our community