Monkey Movie / Hare Krishna Project / GBC Lawyers Up / Indradyumna 12 17 24

MONKEY ON A STICK UPDATE

HI Friends - I know there's been some confusion on how to watch Monkey on a Stick. The version of the documentary on Amazon is abridged, presented as a TV series in two episodes. But you can buy both for $6.50 and watch it on your computer. You don't need to sign up for anything or download any apps.

Just put Episode 1 and Episode 2 in your cart and buy it. After that, on your computer, you can go to Amazon.com and find the episodes in your "Returns and Orders" folder under "Digital Orders." Then you can click the link and it will start playing. Warning: the movie includes a lot of me. Also some cuss words, sex, and violence. Not for kids.

The unabridged, original version of the movie is on Apple TV. So if you already have Apple TV, you can watch the full movie. The abridged one is pretty good, so I recommend watching it. When we get venue for the unabridged show that is easier to access, I'll post that.

Here's the link for the one on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Episode-1/dp/B0DN4YVYFP/steamboatshop

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ORIGINAL BOOKS PROJECT

THE IDEAL CHRISTMAS GIFTS

The Hare Krishna Project Book Shop - Srila Prabhupada's Original Books for Sale. 
We now have a new stock of Srila Prabhupada's original, unedited, books for sale.

We currently have available:

- Bhagavad Gita As It Is, 1972 Macmillan edition (pocket size) - £6
- Bhagavad Gita As It Is, 1972 Macmillan edition (full size) - £12
- The Topmost Yoga System - £4
- Beyond Birth & Death - £4
- Perfect Questions Perfect Answers - £4
- Life Comes From Life - £4

(+ P&P)

For details visit our website at www.theharekrishnaproject.org.uk/shop

Orders can be placed by emailing us at info@harekrishnaproject.org

"Your report of book distribution is very encouraging. Please go on increasing more and more. Yes, you should become the topmost temple for distributing my books. This is a very good proposal. That [book distribution] is the only way to please me. Distribute my books profusely. That is real preaching."

- Srila Prabhupada (Letter to: Bala Krsna 23 October, 1976)

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CB: Srila Prabhupada broke with tradition which formally meant sitting down with the guru in a typical village setting and learning the philosophy and intricacies of Bhakti that way. He started the worldwide sankirtana movement and so designated and empowered his disciples to manage and maintain a new system of management which included guiding devotees and even acting as ritvik priests particularly after 1970.

Ritvik has been used by Jesus Christ for over 2,000 years. Has been used by Ramanuja Acarya for over 1,000 years. Has been used by Madhava Acarya for hundreds of years. Narottam Das Thakur, accepted Vishvanatha Chakravarty Thakur as his diksa guru although Narottam had left his body over 100 years prior. 

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Swami, was his own ritvik in diksa, in front of the picture of his diksa guru, Gourakisora Dasa Babaji who had left his body years earlier in 1915. Two German Matajis, took ritvik diksa in March from Bhaktisiddhanta Swami, who had passed in January of the same year. Srila Prabhupada established a ritvik system as part of the initiation process.

The actual process of diksa is called divya jnana or receiving the transcendent knowledge and so even if one reads one of Srila Prabhupada’s books he is already a disciple. That much potency Srila Prabhupada has.

SSD: Hare Krishna. I have read HDG Bhagavad Gita as it is without anyone's else's interference and even while reading I began singing (didn't know the other way) the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra on self made beads 16 rounds, which took me around 6 hours daily. 

I have worshipped the BG by taking bad before each reading session. It was 40 years ago. Then after several months I visited ISKCON, the zonal guru scam, unknowingly, none else but myself to be blamed for then joining it. 

I have been through thick and thin the past forty years but I am every day for the last seventeen years, after I said fare well good bye to the IsGone, listening to audio recordings of Srila Prabhupada alone for several hours every day. He is my only Guidance in the search for my eternal identity and service. 

I am on the streets of Poland 5, 6 days a week since 2010, average 450 hours in a year. I train my mind without falsehood to serve Srila Prabhupada instructions with conviction, otherwise how would I be able to sing alone Hare Krishna in my home town, where I can hardly remain unrecognizable anymore. 

Now, you telling me that I have been missing the revelation you got about him, HDG AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada allegedly being my diksa guru? He is my guru, he is my saviour and when I stop being a monkey he and Sri Krishna will appear to me as my diksha guru, it may even take lifetimes, I hope not so long, but this is the way ever since. Exceptions are there but those are either eternal associates of the Lord's Lila pastimes or offences made by ruffians and intruders only.

CB: Hare Krishna, prabhu. It is nice to see you on this auspicious forum. Thank you for sharing information about your experiences. In a previous life, you were on the path of bhakti. Now, in this life, you are continuing on the path. Somehow, you found Srila Prabhupada’s books. But it is also true that Srila Prabhupada’s books found you. So it is really both—you found the books and the books found you. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Now you are connected to him, he is your eternal guide, and that is all that matters.

PADA: Yah. Rather oddly ISKCON / Gaudiya Matha / Sridhara and Narayana maharaja people etc. keep telling me that our idea of worshiping a pure devotee is "not found in Krishna's tradition." Oh excuse me then, pray tell what is your tradition? 

Well, we promote the worship of -- illicit sex with men, women and children, homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, debauchees, porno swamis, and assorted criminals as people's "eternal link to God." Hmm, sounds like an eternal link to the worship of Kali Yuga / Satan / Beelzebub. OK thanks, that is what I thought your tradition was! The good news is, more people are realizing, our idea is the right idea, we have to worship the pure devotee -- no exceptions required.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PADA: Oh oh pilgrims, more and more "lawyers" getting posts in ISKCON. They are circling the wagons with a legal team to defend from us cranky dissenters! OK that means they know what they are doing is wrong and needs legal defense to sustain itself. Same thing as the MAFIA, "talk to my lawyers." No wonder they wanted to sue the people making this child welfare forum, they are being exposed. ys pd

INDRADYUMNA'S GIRLS

Padayatra' in New Zealand, in reality it was just a Summer preaching / festival tour. Indradyumna Swami has always behaved this way with young girls. He is a friendly extrovert with a sense of self-celebrity who does whatever he likes.

It is uncertain whether his involvement with the prepubescent girls of Iskcon was for noble purpose or otherwise - in this regard it should be noted that he has no allegations of sexual impropriety against him.

His supporters state that he involved himself with the young girls to help and inspire them spiritually. Fair enough, but it appears the strategy has not worked in the long run, as many of the girls in the video - all of whom I know - now have a very different view of Indradyumna ... and, in many cases, Krishna Consciousness itself. All right, many of them want nothing to do with the religion. As children they had no way to discriminate if his behavior was appropriate. 

I remember when he first visited NZ in 1988, he gave attention to the boys in the gurukula. We went to the beach and wrestled in the sand and he told stories about his Amazon river preaching adventures. We liked him because no Swami had ever given us attention before.

Then, as he returned to NZ in subsequent years for Summer preaching activities, his attention shifted quite noticeably from the gurukula boys to the gurukula girls. I recall a feeling of being left out.

He began to surround himself with the young girls of the community. Sometimes there were two 11-12 year old girls hanging off each of his arms as he spoke to others, including in preaching contexts.

When you surrender your faith to someone, it is amazing how you then let them behave in ways you'd never normally accept. No one called out Indradyumna's association with the young girls of the community. And I believe he knew that they didn't have the power to do so. He was exploiting his position as a guru. 

But others, outside of the group, saw it was a problem. I remember the event at Hastings in 1996 when Indradyumna gave the talk. A devotee had invited his mother along.

"He spoke some wise words", his mother said afterwards. "But what is he doing hanging around with the young girls? That's strange". I agree with the mother - there is something very strange about it. And it is amazing so many people outside the religion see the problem immediately, but the people inside are generally blinded by fanatical attachments. 

Later, when many of those young girls grow up, they are unable to participate in the religion ... because they matured enough to see how fanatical it really is. Religion without philosophy is fanaticism. And the rest of the GBC does not even notice there is a problem either, he is never called out, because they are all the same, exploiters of sentiment.