Bhakta Dasa's Non Existing Guru etc. 12 16 24

 

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PADA: Oh oh pilgrims! Old tanker ships, made in the 1960s, ordinarily would be retired and on the scrap heap. But Russians need any ship they can find for their "ghost fleet" to ship oil. And many people already said these ships are not safe for sea travel, and self evidently, they are not. 

Now we have the problem of all these old run down and un-certified ships falling apart and leaking hundreds of tons of oil into the ocean, as happened here. All that, after the Russians already blew up the dam in the same area and washed away chemical factories, paint factories, gasoline and oil storage plants, gas stations, sewer plants -- and hundreds of tons of raw sewage -- and washed away many living things like dogs, cats, chickens and many other animals, and it all was washed away into the sea as well. Which has made the sea there full of toxic materials. 

I don't think these Russians care whatsoever about the environment of planet earth. Never mind they have tossed out millions of their little butterfly mines, which is estimated to take the next 100 years to collect up and make the place safe for humans and animals. Very reckless. 

It's going to be very amazing when Yamaraja tells these folks -- they have to go back to take birth in these exact places that they contaminated, and live in all the toxic chemical mess they made there, and suffer stepping on their own mines and all the rest. Their karma will catch up.    

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PADA: It is rather amazing that folks like Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati etc. have all been promoting Bhakta dasa as their hero and spokesman. And he says herein that our idea of CURRENT worship of Srila Prabhupada is a figment of people's imagination. And HKC Jaipur's Prahlad says -- because PADA is not promoting his spokeman's idea -- that worshiping a pure devotee is imaginary nonsense -- we are "destroying the unity of the Prabhupadanugas." And Kamsahanta says PADA's preaching is "the worst thing that ever happened in ISKCON." 

OK they are simply repeating one of the GBC's main talking points. Which means, none of these folks has freed themselves of GBC's contamination. And then, their defender Bhakta Peter says he sees "nothing wrong" with being one of Tamal's bucket boys and parrots. Sorry, the GBC's talking points are - wrong. Never mind their ideas have destroyed thousands of lives and the integrity of the ISKCON society in the process. Sorry, worship of the pure devotee is an ETERNAL principle, it never changes now, or ever, and it never will change. Ever!

BHAKTA DASA (William Benedict):

HARE KRISHNA!

Guru Ashraya is one step on the path towards prema bhakti. It is not hypothetical that one submits to a person. You may imagine you are a disciple of someone, but if that person has not accepted you personally, it is imagination. 

PADA: Bhakta dasa himself is the one who has a hypothetic imaginary guru. We need to submit to an "actual person," but Bhakta's "actual person" is a phantasmagoria, theoretical, hypothetical, imaginary person. He does not even have a name or exist. Bhakta dasa never mentions the name of his alleged guru, because -- there is none. He just does not want anyone to worship Srila Prabhupada, because worship of no one and nothing is better.  

Neither Bhakta das tells us "who" should we have new people offer their bhogha to now. We should offer our bhogha to -- no one? An imaginary person? How does he know offering the bhogha NOW by new people -- to the pure devotee -- is imagination and it is not accepted? Indded, how does he know the offerings are imaginary, or are being accepted -- or not? 

And who is the "actual person" his children and / or his friends offer their bhogha to right now? He never explains. Telling people that offering bhogha to a pure devotee is imagination means, offering to no named person, ok nobody, thus they will simply be eating un-offered bhogha. We offer our bhogha to -- no one, and that is the plan?

Of course Bhakta dasa also criticized PADA for "making offenses to Saint Radhanath." Oh oh wait, that is the homo and pedo guru lineage -- that Bhakta dasa has become a cheer leader of. And that lineage bans, beats, molests, sues and assassinates Vaishnavas. And offers bhogha to homos, pedos, drunks and other assorted deviants. And makes samadhis for homos and pedos in the dham.

Bhakta's own son is living in Alachua -- where many people there believe Jayapataka is the guru. And JPS is the founder father of the molester messiah's program. And we had to have his program sued for $400,000,000. Who is the guru of Bhakta's children, or the other children -- he is advising? Who is the person they offer bhogha to: -- the imaginary Srila Prabhupada offerings; or Jayapataka; or BV Puri who is departed; or Saint Radhanath or -- whom? We never know. When did Srila Prabhupada ever say offering bhogha to the pure devotee is imagination? 

And Bhakta has promoted BV Puri, who was also promoting "Saint Radhanath" at his ashram. We cannot falsely imagine ourselves to be worshipers of a pure devotee, because we can factually become promoters of a homo and pedo guru process? Or what?

It is a long time since I was in contact with the Episcopal Church, or the Catholic Church, but they called those who were with Jesus "disciples", and others who followed Apostles. I am sorry, but Srila Prabhupada is a person who appeared here and taught Krishna Science for a number of years. He never once said or wrote that he is going to keep giving imaginary initiations to anyone after he left his manifest form. 

PADA: Diksha means to get divyam jnanam that destroys sins, and Prabhupada's books gave that divyam jnanam all the time and still do. It is amazing that Bhakta das thinks the current followers of Srila Prabhupada -- who are worshiping Krishna and His pure devotee, are worshiping an imaginary -- no one and nothing. The people who worship Krishna and His pure devotee are worshiping no one and nothing is also called - atheism. But worship of Saint Radhanath is authorized? Or what?

Sorry, it not there. It is not what he taught us. Go ahead and bring forth a zillion citations, they do not make what is concocted truth. Prabhupada wanted MILLIONS of gurus and millions of temples, and he never taught us that it is difficult to teach what he taught us. It is too bad that some got the idea to falsely pretend to be something they are not, and in many ways ruined the formerly somewhat united family of Srila Prabhupada's.

PADA: But Bhakta dasa has concocted that there is a guru somewhere, and yet he has offered us none -- because he cannot even name who his guru is. OK there is none, or he would name that alleged person by now.

For 56 years I have heard every word that was recorded by His Divine Grace and read his books, letters, and worshipped him. I do not need to be sent pages of quotes that some imagine support the false concept that His Divine Grace did not want his disciples to make disciples and teach them the same things he taught us.

PADA: But no disciple / guru is named by Bhakta dasa? All glories to -- nobody? 

The very idea is offensive to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada that he failed to teach anyone the process sufficiently that they could teach it to others. Rupanuga taught it well enough in Buffalo decades ago to bring an entire group of young people to Krishna. He taught, and in the presence of the spiritual master, the disciple brings the new man to the spiritual master for the ceremony of initiation. Prabhupada explained this so many times. But, people still want to concoct something feigning their loyalty to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada.

PADA: Rupanuga was one of the original people who helped name the bogus 11 as gurus. So we should worship the people whose program has had devotees banned, beaten, molested, sued and assassinated? And follow the advice of one of the original cheer leaders of that process?

It is BS. Become a devotee, preach, and make others devotees. That is the process. You do not need a throne. You just need to live in truth and speak truth.
I am not interested in getting cut and pastes from all the words of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada with which I am familiar with for decades.

Das anu das anu das,
Bhakta dasa

PADA: And Bhakta dasa is also the person Mathura Pati / Mathias Sabji has been advertising as our shiksha guru / head priest / authority -- that everyone should hear from. Sorry, we have to name our guru. We cannot say ALL of the disciples are EXPECTED to become gurus -- but then not name which -- IF ANY -- of them HAVE BECOME gurus. Srila Prabhupada says not naming the guru is called MAYAVADA. 

Otherwise, there IS NO GURU, if NONE can be identified. And Bhakta's BV Puri is NOT HERE, and his Saint Radhanath guru has been tinged with various scandals, including evidently, working as Kirtanananda's hand maiden, and having a role in Sulochana's departure. 

There is no named guru, or Saint Radhanath is the guru, or departed BV Puri is the guru -- who was promoting Saint Radhanath, or what? Can anyone identify who is the guru of Bhakta dasa? Because he never does! And neither does Rupanuga name who the alleged current guru is either. I often tell people, their idea is -- someone or ANYONE else can be the guru -- as long as it is NOT Srila Prabhupada. Then we wonder why there has been so much chaos? 

Q: Where is all this going? 

A: Nowhere. 

ys pd 

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PADA: The GBC externally appears to be lazy, incompetent and ineffectual. But the Jayapataka people wrote to complain to me -- that my helping various lawsuits -- has cost ISKCON $100,000,000 -- or more. They complained I am more of an expense than the TOVP building.

That means they are very, very, very effective at protecting their own interests, suppressing complaints from victims -- and whistle blowers. And all this has been accomplished by their spending lavishly, if not unlimitedly -- vast amounts of $$$ on amassing a large bag of legal tricks.

This is a highly orchestrated plan of basically keeping the cabal members out of the reach of justice. This takes a lot of GBC's time, money, effort and hard work. They have held countless meetings -- often with very expensive lawyers -- to shore up their control of the assets of the society. Jus their Bangalore lawsuit cost them $20,000,000, and Bangalore had to spend $20,000,000 to defend themselves, but -- there has been a shortage of funds for shoes for kids? 

Their priority is very clear -- spend whatever it takes on -- lawyers -- to hold power.

None of this should be considered as incompetent and ineffective, they have been highly effective at keep the dissenters at bay with all these legal maneuvers. Now -- are we surprised -- they are replacing the CPO with -- lawyers.

Having all of us exiled out, sometimes having some of us terminated, and allowing in their criminal and predator pals to replace us, is not something that has happened haphazard and random. It is a highly orchestrated and controlled process. It looks random and haphazard, but no one spends $100,000,000 on legal issues, and brings in EVEN MORE lawyers to deal with the child protection issue, unless they are highly motivated, highly organized, and are sitting around having meeting after meeting -- calculating how to keep their posts and powers intact.