Tuesday, January 17, 2023

ISKCON Women's Guru Certificate Request (UPDATE)

PADA: Yep AC Dasa, seems pretty obvious. The mass of Srila Prabhupada disciples had decided around 1978 that Srila Prabhupada is no longer the ISKCON guru. Just as the "senior Vaishnavis" letter said, you'd need to wait for birth on another planet -- in another lifetime to find a (diksha) guru. Forget Srila Prabhupada being your guru, just like we "senior God sisters" are doing. 

Of course, a number of these senior Vaishavi women are currently big supporters of the GBC's pedophile messiah's club, they wanted to replace Srila Prabhupada with their pedophile messiahs program -- and they did. As soon as they see some nice homosexual pedophile messiahs club, they fall down and lick the jack boots of the leaders of that program. 

Now some of these "senior Prabhupada female devotees" are begging the pedophile messiahs club for a guru certificate, so they can be authorized members of the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiahs club. Where do I sign up? Why would any moral person want to be "certified as a guru" in an illicit sex with men, women and children (aka pedophile) guru lineage, which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas.

OK what happened is -- we need to find Srila Prabhupada's replacement -- and soon. And if we cannot find anyone else, we volunteer to be his diksha guru successors ourselves. Of course, some God brothers objected, but not many, certainly not enough.

And in 1978 the GBC found the perfect "replacement for Srila Prabhupada," namely B R Sridhara Maharaja, founder father of a violent bi-sexual acharya's program in 1936 -- that had dissenters banned, beaten, faces pushed into dog's stools, and some had their skulls cracked by being beaten with bricks, and some died, which made bad public news media expose. Perfect person to declare as "ISKCON's shiksha guru" and "the seniormost Vaishnava on the planet." Which the leaders did, and mostly cent percent of the ISKCON folks went along. 

And Sridhara endorsed the 11 GBC's aka Srila Prabhupada "guru successor / replacements," so they all worked together to replace Srila Prabhupada. Again, most of the ISKCON people went along with that deviation. And later on people like Jayatirtha, Sudhir, Tripurari swami, Jagat Guru swami, Pancadravida swami, some of Swarupa Damodar's BI people and many others started their own spin off movements under BR Sridhara's umbrella, taking thousands of people out of ISKCON with them, and off to their bi-sexual and pedophile messiah's cheer leader's program. 

Sridhara Maharaja found us "dissenters" to be a problem, so he said "none should protest" -- his GBC endorsed program of banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating of Vaishnavas, same process he launched in 1936 with the same dire and odious results. 

Many of this group still promote Sridhara as the guru now, since they replaced Srila Prabhupada with the biggest cheer leader of the 1936 and 1978 Sodom and Gomorrah sampradaya. Yep. Lets all worship the founder father of a bi-sexual / homosexual / pedophile guru lineage, and then people wonder why we have had a big full tilt illicit sex guru / homosexual pedophile problem in ISKCON? You folks are worshiping the founder fathers of illicit sex messiahs -- as the replacements for Srila Prabhupada -- and you wonder why there is a problem? 

Nope. You knew in advance there is going to be a problem because Srila Prabhupada warned you leaders over and over and over -- taking advice from Sridhara would cause exactly this problem, i.e. illicit sex acharyas. OK that means, you wanted to make illicit sex acharyas, otherwise why go to the founder father of that deviation. 

Then later ISKCON found another replacement for Srila Prabhupada, namely BV Narayan Maharaja, i.e. Tamal's / Bhavananda's / Bhakti Vidya Purna program's best supporter and huge advocate for the GBC's illicit sex messiah's club. I was in Texas helping sue Tamal for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, and NM was also in Texas -- sitting at Tamal's table and yelling at our friends to -- not challenge Tamal. In fact NM was spitting mad, literally spitting while shouting at my associates for challenging his favorite homosexual pedophile guru leader Tamal.  

NM has thus been one of the biggest cheer leaders of Tamal and the molester messiah's program, and he was therefore designated as another one of Srila Prabhupada replacements. And then a whole bunch of ISKCON children ran off to worship NM. He was the main hand maiden of Tamal -- when everyone knew Tamal is the main ISKCON founder father of the pedophile guru system. 

Many ISKCON leaders and parents went off to worship NM, and then so did their children. Worshiping the main cheer leader of a homosexual pedophile guru process is almost non - different from worshiping a homosexual pedophile guru direct, they are both part of the same process of oppressing and exploiting children. 

OK NM is another cheer leader of the Sodom and Gomorrah sampradaya, and the ISKCON children were told by their parents to go there and worship the cheer leader of the sodomites succession, and many of them still are now. That means their parents wanted to replace Srila Prabhupada with someone else, and so they went to Tamal's bucket boy NM. 

In other words they wanted their children to worship the world's biggest cheer leader of Tamal's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club. Then they made pretend they had no idea how all the abuse happened? They worship NM, one of the main enablers of that process, that is how it all happened.

And what happens when one tries to replace his guru, ignore his guru, in other words -- offend his guru? Or claim he or some other deviants are the direct successors to their guru? There are so many stories in the Vedas about how the persons who ignored or offended their guru ended up in dire and devastating circumstances. Is that what happened to ISKCON and most of its citizens? I would say -- yes. Indeed, the planets of the demigods were over run by the demons when they offended their guru, and about the same thing happened in ISKCON. 

Will Krishna be happy when people make His alleged "pure representatives" a bunch of homosexuals, pedophiles, assorted drunks, crooks, fools, porno swamis, Vodka drinkers, machine gun swamis, oral sex with taxi drivers etc. What would God think of all that? OK probably God would think, "This is not AT ALL what I wanted, and maybe I should just stomp down on it and crush it." And would God be happy that BR Sridhara, BV Narayan and others acted as advocates and cheer leaders for their homosexual and pedophile acharya's process? Nope. Srila Prabhupada says false gurus go to the bottom of the universe, and so do their support staff. OK these guys. 

That is actually quite a reasonable assessment of how God would react. "Crush this nonsense down before it grows." One of the first problems here is that no one seems to have any idea what Krishna wants in all this. Does Krishna want a pile of dummies, predators, crooks, misogynist jerks, anal sex epidemic Sodom and Gomorrah-ites etc. being advertised as His eternal guru successors? Ummm, probably nope. Pleasing Krishna produces pleasing results, and displeasing Krishna, ok not so nice results. Nor should we expect nice results. 

For starters, God is more than likely angry when conditioned souls are artificially made into His successors. So what happens when a lot of the ISKCON "seniors" have been promoting all sorts of highly conditioned souls -- and even pedophiles -- as Krishna's successor gurus -- instead of Srila Prabhupada as the guru. Or they are like some of the "senior Vaisnavi women" -- and they want to be certified as co-members of the homosexual and pedophile guru system. 

If we study what happens when people disrespect their guru from the Vedas, it can create very nasty reactions. Then again, I would not disrespect my neighbor's dog by saying deviant illicit sex predators are the "living guru representatives" of the dog, never mind making these odious folks "God's successors." OK God is not going to be pleased, and thereby God will Himself cut down their Sodomite pooja process, He will disable it gradually, and He is.

ISKCON has thus made a series of bogus replacement successors. Their idea is, lets replace Srila Prabhupada with some other guru, anyone, as long as it is not him. And in the rush to find his replacement, who did they find to promote instead of Srila Prabhupada as the guru? OK at least when they made BR Sridhara Maharaja or BV Narayan Maharaja the "real" successors, they tried to find someone with some sort of sadhu profile. 

Yep, but the only reason they were made the next in line replacements is -- those two guys supported the overall pedophile messiahs club of the GBC, so that was not really helping. It made things worse. Now the Sodomite religion had high priest advocates. 

In short, they often -- as not -- promoted a bogus if not pedophile guru program that molested many / most of their own society's kids, and bankrupted their own society. They wanted some program other than promoting Srila Prabhupada as the diksha guru -- for whatever reason -- and the reason does not really matter that much. What matters most is the result. Judge a thing by the result.

And the result is -- (as GGD says) -- they turned ISKCON into a sort of Sodom and Gomorrah. A heaven for predators, crooks and even sodomites. Why did that happen? Because replacing their guru is an offense in the first place. And that is why Krishna starts bewildering them -- as soon as they decided to kick out their guru and replace him with someone else, indeed anyone else, never mind they replaced their guru with Sodom and Gomorrah pt. II, then they are cursed to fail. And they did fail. And will continue to fail.  

Krishna bewildered them and helped them make the wrong choices of replacement successors as a chastisement. That is because they were never authorized to replace him with anyone else from square one. That is described in the Gita itself, the people who have excess mundane desires obtain the state of "buddhi nasah," their intelligence is destroyed. And that goes triple time effect when they want to replace their guru with someone else, indeed anyone else will do. Won't work. What happens instead is -- bewilderment increases.

Then they will then be cursed by Krishna to fall into deeper and deeper illusion, finally coming to the state of these senior lady Vaishnavis, "we are the successors." This is mayavada, I am God, I am the successor to God, etc. Failed policy. The people they promoted failed, so they will step forward and do better. No, they will fall into the same rabbit hole of failure. 

First, we "Prabhupada seniors" tried to give everyone Sodom and Gomorrah's guru parampara, but we failed at that. Never mind -- now we are going to declare ourselves the REAL successors. Exactly what happened in the Gaudiya Matha. They made mundane influenced people into acharyas, then their first wave crashed on the beach -- and failed, and then the rest of them just said -- oh never mind, I am the successor. Vote me in! Which simply compounds the problem, and the illusions involved. The people who made the first bogus guru wave that crashed on the beach, will form the second wave, and it will work out fine. Ummm, nope. 

First of all, they have to account for their original deviation, aiding, abetting, allowing, acquiescing with -- making Sodom and Gomorrah out of their guru's mission. Then later on we can discuss their candidacy for being the new saviors of ISKCON. Then again, if they are asking the GBC -- aka Mr. Sodom and Mr. Gomorrah -- the leaders of the Sodomite's religion -- for a license to preach, that means they are still at the starting line of the race where they started in 1978, when they first authorized Mr. Sodom and Mr. Gomorrah to replace their guru. 

Replacing the guru is an offense, and once that offense begins, all sorts of other karmic dynamics come into play. One of those dynamics is, Krishna then wants to make sure their program fails. He has no interest in keeping false successors operating successfully. He wants to chop it down, and He does. And one of the ways He does it is -- He destroys the intelligence of the persons making these deviations, so they will blunder more and more. And they are. 

Unfortunately, the children and perhaps even their own children, and their society will go down with their sinking ship. They will drag others down with them, which is why shastra says, when you drag others down to a lower plane, you have much longer duration in hell. And so the people who wanted to replace their guru are bewildered by God into choosing Sodom and Gomorrah to replace Vaikuntha. That is the recurring destiny of guru replacing programs, they fail, they deteriorate, they degrade. 

The Nectar of Instructions confirms, imitation of the acharya means -- one eventually degrades. And if that is done collectively, say as happens in ISKCON, then everything and everyone else degrades collectively. Anyone who is helping the deviation is implicated in it, either by omission or commission. There are no innocent bystanders. 

And that explains the devotee's cancer epidemic, lawsuits, bad publicity, scandals, murders, mass child abuse and so many other anomalies that have plagued the devotee society. Once people turned away from their guru to promote bogus successors to their guru, they were condemned by providence. And that means, everyone around them became similarly condemned, their children, their family, their society. And yep, these are the hard knocks of life that Krishna dishes out. And that is why it is required to study the shastra to avoid these pitfalls. 


Lets take for example Mula Prakriti and Gopa Vrindapal. Mula was advocating that children accept Satsvarupa as their eternal connection / Srila Prabhupada replacement. Satsvarupa is equal to Jesus and he is going to absorb our kids sins? OK look at this SDG guy's art, he is already living on a hellish planet. Why would we want our own children to accept this guy as their messiah? Unless we are so desperate to get rid of Srila Prabhupada, we are not even paying attention to whom we are promoting as his successors.

Then Mula ran off to main Sodomite's religion's high priest -- Narayan Maharaja, who was saying "the children just got their karma" (which his program ram rodded into their behinds, literally and figuratively). Who authorized NM to push his anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club on Krishna's children? And who authorizes Mula to become a hand maiden of their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club, which is replacing her guru. Sorry, she has no authority to promote anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's clubs, or their cheer leading high priests like NM.  

Sorry folks, the NM club has no authority to promote their Sodomite's religion, which is attacking children left, right and center. And what will God do to the high priests of the Sodomite religion like NM? Well, go read the story in the Bible! Hee hee! OK Mula is just one example, thousands of other ISKCON men and women did the same thing, they sent their children off to Srila Prabhupada replacement boot camp. 

Or really -- their self-made Auschwitz for kids project -- where the children suffered terribly.  Often their own kids. They were in such a frenzy to replace their guru that in the process, they took no caution to discover what qualification are required for his replacements, and that is how they came to promoting Sodomite-ism.

And then Mula Prakriti Dasi yelled at me for "trying to start a Nuremburg trial." Well yes, but that trial will happen here or on Yamaraja's planet anyway, and you will be one of the people tried at that trial if you are working for them. I believe she realized her support of Narayan Maharaja was a mistake just at the end of her life. OK she got cancer, and so did NM, and so have hundreds of others. Does that mean this is a (negative) sign from Krishna? 

Yep. He is not happpy you guys replaced Srila Prabhupada with your Sodomites pooja program. Sorry Mula, the Nuremburg trials have already started. The cancer epidemic is just one small factor in getting things started. Your Prabhupada replacing society, with your newly established Sodomizing religion, and its extensive karma tentacles, will carry into future lives. 

And all the other senior Prabhupada devotees who caused all this Prabhupada replacing with their Sodomite's religion will be implicated as well. That is not my assessment, that is the assessment of shastra. We all have to fly our own karma airplane, whether it flies or crashes is up to us.
      
And that is why Sulochana said -- at least replace the worship of the acharya with the worship of a dog, because a dog will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. But Sulochana said, unfortunately they are not advanced enough to promote worship of a dog. They want to do damage and not make a neutral situation.

So they hand selected Mr. Sodom and Mr. Gomorrah to be the successors, with bad consequnces for all involved, and which also back fired -- straight back into the faces of the acquiescing, the promoters, and their society, their children, and their entire religion. 

We cannot replace our diksha guru parampara connection member with any other person or it is an offense, even if that person is somewhat elevated. Look at what happened in 1936, the most elevated scholar Ananta Vasudeva was made the acharya, and later he was having illicit sex and he ran off to the smartas. Then he died from suicide, after his son was killed to cover up his scandals.

In sum, the senior Prabhupada devotees collectively caused this mess. In the Gaudiya Matha one party deviated, one party left, both are asara or useless. It is our duty to make sure that ISKCON is not turned into a pedophile worship club, and if we fail, we will go on trial at some point for compromising with evil. And in the meantime, our society will go down, just as it does in Gaudiya Matha and many other examples. All glories to Srila Prabhupada, who cannot be replaced, never mind cannot be replaced with another Sodom and Gomorrah. ys pd  


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Touching children way too affectionately is problem, especially when the children may later find out their guru is a predator, or an enabler of predators etc. and that destroys their faith. But that is only a tip of the iceberg issue. It is often the same people who are hugging children overly affectionately -- who are the same identical people -- who propped up the whole Mayapur and other abuse regimes, where child abuse of all sorts was rampant. If you are a child being hugged by a person who is a key advocate of that regime, that would cause all sorts of potential psychological consequences. And it has. I know many ex-children victims who report to me all sorts of psychological ramifications, including intimacy issues, faith issues, trust issues, nightmare issues, PTSD issues, never mind one of these girls who was only 17 years old tried to take out her mom with a kitchen knife and the ambulance had to come and shoot her up with tranqulizers and put her in the psyche ward. This is the result of interfering with children's feelings and emotions, and faith, and I could go on here with many more examples. Touching children overly affectionate is just one part of the overall picture, we have to zoom back and look at the totality. ys pd
  

GGD: These women need to read the Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God because he does not approve of sodomites society. Never mind ... God does not want people to worship the Sodom and Gommorrah-ites.

These women claim to be followers of Prabhupada and then introduced the sodomite program's worship, which spread sodomy all over their society. And then their children were sacrificed on the altar of their sodomy worship society. And then they were not happy, because they were not one of temple high priests for the sodomites.

The only good from all this is what? Now we understand how ISKCON became Sodom and Gomorrah ... these people welcomed in the high priests of that society, and even wanted to join the ranks of their priest organization. God destroyed the Sodomites and we all know what happens next, He will destroy them, their children and their whole society the same way. God is just not a supporter of Sodomites religion.

Neither any agent of God is in favor of the worship of sodomites. He will destroy them and their society, and we should all know that from reading the Bible. These women do not have a basic moral idea, a sodomy worship organization and society is condemned and forbidden everywhere. They won't revive it, because God Himself will take it down, and He is.

And these women who want to be the new high priests for Sodom and Gomorrah temple will go down the drain with the whole slimy and stinky mess. Worship of Sodomites is always forbidden and God will punish anyone attempting to make it into a religion.

Suppose Jim Jones by a miracle survived after he had his people drink poison. And by another miracle some mothers survived too. And then those mothers, whose children died in the poison event, went to ask Jim Jones, can we become your high priests? WTF?
These women are simply what Srila Prabhupada always warns us about, mindless fanatics, who have no clue what religion is.

And therefore they are a danger to the whole human society. We had our children worship Sodomites, our children were destroyed, and now, make us your Sodomite religion's high priests.

Meanwhile everyone else is running away from these Sodomites, seeing all the wrath of God unfolding and making people like Jayapataka into living corpses. And these women are not far behind him in the race of going down the drain, same exact way Sodom and Gomorrah went down. A sodomy society is forbidden always, especially when the victims are mostly ... their own children. These people are sick.

And that is why they and their society is dying off. God is taking their whole shi*t show down. Good riddance!

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7 comments:

  1. GC: They should be transparent by default and people should be responsible for their acts. And these crimes against children are already known for years and years. Its not that it was unknown, but it was ignored and enabled to be committed again and again.

    And its first of all to hold those who are responsible, in charge, positions. It all happens from there. From the head - "the leaders", gurus, GBC, as you call them! And main problem is still the same, that these crimes are still ignored and denied from gurus, gbcs, people in charge. Typical cult, that is why it is falling apart. And it will fall apart more and more as this crime operation is more exposed.

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  2. Mama Bear: Oh Lord have mercy. Say it isn't so! You mean the fathers and mothers sent their kids off to the Sodom and Gomorrah school for "special training." They wanted to replace the worship of their guru with ... anyone else they could find.

    And they did even spend much time investigating the people they were making into his replacements. Let us just grab anyone off the street who will volunteer to replace my guru, even if he is a clown!

    And it is an emergency ... cram any Tom, Dick and Harry we can find ... especially since the intelligent ones will never agree to be his successor. The intelligent know it is an offense. The intelligent at least left, they knew posing as the REAL successor is going to be a big sin.

    Or the worst sin. Even I know that. Do you want to sign up to be God's successor today? Oh no, not today but thanks anyway. And I am not even that intelligent ... but that much I do know.

    Then! The less brains signed up to be the successors, and those with even less brains ... than them ... accepted the bogus Sodomite's successors system. No wonder the whole thing is going down hill in a handbasket.

    Even around here the people say "we cannot worship Srila Prabhupada as the guru, that is the ritvik deviation." I almost forgot. Only worship of their Sodomite religion is authorized, not worship of pure people.

    Then they wonder why the place is empty and looks like the entrance hall to the Cemetary Chapel? It is a morgue around here. That is because the regular guys already know what happens to the people in Sodom and Gomorrah, they read the story already, so they want to avoid being near it.

    I only go sometimes to tell Krishna, I know how You have been kidnapped by these people. They are holding You hostage. I want to show Him some support, otherwise I'd never go.

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  3. LW: I feel sad for these women who want the GBC to certify them as gurus, thinking that is the solution. That means they really never understood word one that Srila Prabhupada has been saying.

    Do not worship bogus gurus. Do not start a bogus guru by rubber stamp vote. Do not let the kids get harmed. Do not go to the Gaudiya Matha. Do not make a Hindu hodge podge. Do not take sins. They think if some women are voted in as guru that is going to change everything.

    Really? Then the GBC will just advertise that the women agree with their illicit sex guru system. They will use these women as an advertising photo-op for them, just like they used them already to get them to build things up for them.

    It is unfortunate that abused people often go back to their abusers for shelter. It is like the horse who runs into the barn when it is on fire. He fails to understand, this is not a shelter, this is dangerous.

    Going back to them is like the vantasi sannyasa, he vomits out material attachment, then goes back to material attachment, which Srila Prabhupada says ... is like vomiting and then eating your own vomit.

    These senior women are already not counted as important people by the GBC, and they mostly are second rate citizens. These women rejected the GBC themselves in many cases, then they go back to them for a certification? Eating your own vomit. And that means they want everyone else to go back to work with the GBC, even their own kids. No wonder almost all these kids are so messed up, their parents are clueless.



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  4. SD Dasi: Think this is about right. All kinds of people were distributing the books of Srila Prabhupada ... like Tripurari swami, Mula Prakriti, Gopa Vrndapal and many others. Unfortunately and ... clearly they have not been studying these books.

    I mean seriously. Many people knew Satsvarupa is living at Howard Johnson's Motels, supposedly using tranquilizer pills, eating take out pizzas, watching soap operas on TV. And he cannot keep his hands off a woman's breasts nor keep his willy in his pants. And all he writes about are the glories of Kirtanananda, who has two dogs that are licking the deity maha plate. Never mind all the constant "young men" surrounding K swami 24/7. And about everyone knew about these things.

    Lets not get into Satsvarupa's famous art visions ... straight from the bowels of hell. Anyone in the Walmart can see this art is straight from hell. And Mula Prakriti thinks, Srila Prabhupada is gone, and here is his replacement successor. What the flying f**k!

    Obviously, she did not look too hard at who is going to be his successor. Or she knows Satsvarupa is a candidate for being sent to Bellvue mental home, but she just wanted to be part of the "in crowd" that supported him. Social beeja.

    Probably at some point she finally realizes what 10,000 others realized ten years before her, Satsvarupa needs to be placed in the rubber room at the psyche ward. And then she just switches horses midstream and starts supporting Narayan Maharaja, who has said negative things about Srila Prabhupada, and positive things about the whole bogus guru camp made by the GBC.

    Then she gets cancer. Is it probably from the stress of trying to make this circus act into her guru's successors. I cannot say. What I can say is, she never cleared any of this up. Ever.

    She never admits she is wrong to promote all this garbage in the name of her guru's successors. She helped make all this bogus guru succession to Krishna ... and it caused considerable damage to Krishna's good name. And to her guru's good name. And to our good name. We are ashamed to be seen as devotees in public thanks to her foolish program of supporting them.

    And yet she never says, Krishna I am sorry for making You look bad by promoting Bellvue psyche ward rubber room patients as -- Your successors. This is where I see their biggest fault. They should have realized at some point, look at all the bad name we are giving Krishna.

    How will we ever please Krishna? So the whole idea of the books is, we have to please Krishna. Making Bellvue patients ... and people who over ride Srila Prabhupada ... and who are with the Tamal - Mayapur molester camp ... like Narayan Maharaja ... into Krishna's successors ... is never going to please Krishna. She should have said something at some point. But she never does. That means she never understood the basic points.

    We cannot support bad people as Krishna's successors, or their club like Narayan Maharaja. And if by accident we do that, then we have to make a full public statement of rectification, to please Krishna and make Him, and us, feel some relief. Mula doesn't ... and neither do most of these "senior Vaishnavis." That means they carry all their compromise with this Bellvue guru program with them into the next life. And that means, they never really understood the books. Taking their support of this foolishness to the grave means, they will have to undo it in other future lives here. They cannot support Bellvue patients as Krishna's successors and please Krishna, and in fact they have considerably displeased Krishna. That is why we need to actually read the books, then we would know, Bellvue patients are not Krishna's successors. Of course I already knew that without even reading the books, because I know Krishna will not be happy having Bellvue mental case made into His successor.

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  5. BJ: Among worst offenses -- making crazy Bellvue people and pedophiles into Krishna's successors. *** When King Pṛthu is described as an incarnation of Lord Viṣṇu, it should be understood that he is a śaktyāveśa-avatāra, part and parcel of Lord Viṣṇu, and is specifically empowered by Him. Any living being acting as the incarnation of Lord Viṣṇu is thus empowered by Lord Viṣṇu to preach the bhakti cult. Such a person can act like Lord Viṣṇu and defeat demons by arguments and preach the bhakti cult exactly according to the principles of śāstra. As indicated in Bhagavad-gītā, whenever we find someone extraordinary preaching the bhakti cult, we should know that he is especially empowered by Lord Viṣṇu, or Lord Kṛṣṇa. As confirmed in Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Antya 7.11), kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe tāra pravartana: one cannot explain the glories of the holy name of the Lord without being specifically empowered by Him. If one criticizes or finds fault with such an empowered personality, one is to be considered an offender against Lord Viṣṇu and is punishable. Even though such offenders may dress as Vaiṣṇavas with false tilaka and mālā, they are never forgiven by the Lord if they offend a pure Vaiṣṇava. There are many instances of this in the śāstras. —A. C. #Bhaktivedanta Swami #Prabhupāda (Bhag. 4.19.37 purport)

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  6. M Dasi: I agree. People like Narayan Maharaja, Mula Prakriti, Gopa Vrndapal and others think Satsvarupa is a resident of Krishna loka, he is as pure as Krishna's acharya. But, he is also holed up in Howard Johnson Motels, taking pills, eating pizzas, glorifying pedophiles like Kirtanananda. And he is writing sex novels.

    Meanwhile, Krishna's actual kids are getting beaten and molested all over the place ... all under their watch, while their acharya is watching TV and eating pizzas. And not to mention ... their acharya is making art from hell. I think it is right to say, anyone walking out of Walmart would look at Satsvarupa's art and say ... this man is a resident of hell, not Krishna loka.

    That is because the average person has mental discrimination. They don't. And the reason they don't ... also correct to say, they are in a such a frenzy to replace their guru, they take any fool and resident of hell they can find to replace him with. They never cared one iota if Satsvarupa is qualified or not. They never studied the qualification of an acharya. It was all external. They have empty heads the whole time.

    And they have empty heads because? They want false society, friendship and love and nothing else. They never understood ... a person has to give up false society and render service to the pure devotee, and not render service to residents of hell in order to get some false social standing.

    The same things happen here all the time. Prabhu, sure their gurus are falling down all the time, but if we complain, we lose our ... social standing, or society, friendship and love. In other words, we lose our material standing in the material world. That means, not standing anywhere in the spiritual world.

    They were tested by Krishna. Do you want to serve a resident of Krishna loka, or do you want to serve a resident of hell to get some false prestige? And they chose false prestige. As for the women senior female Vaishnavis? Another group who wants to be glorified as "senior disciples," while they are aiding and abetting the child molester guru system.

    And they just want to be voted into it because then they will have some official title of honor. If someone goes to Charles Manson and asks him for a spiritual title and certificate, who in their right mind would accept it? Only these fools think such a certificate has value. They are senior betrayers, they are the senior Judas, and that is why they beg Judas for a share of the stolen gold. I feel bad for them, they are lost souls. Being a senior servant of Judas is nothing to brag about.


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  7. HD: I agree fully with Sulochana. Better to find a nice dog to worship than some pill popper mental case like SDG, who is living at Howard Johnsons, eating pizzas, more or less helping Kirtanananda get more little boys into his cottage. A dog is not going to harm you, these people can get you molested, beaten, or killed.

    My devotee friend was beaten almost to death with heavy iron pipes, he spent 3 months in the hospital and has never really recovered. He still has headaches and all sorts of issues from all the brain damage and concussions, broke bones etc.

    These Narayan Maharaja, Mula Prakriti, Gopa Vrndapals type people have been supporting this violent and vicious camp, claiming to be senior devotees, while the people in the way of their army tank get run over.

    At least dogs have an excuse, they are dogs. These are dangerous people because Srila Prabhupada says, ignorant people are very dangerous, and they are.

    Satsvarupa is an early devotee, he must have known Kirtanananda is a homosexual. He didn't care who is going to be Krishna's successor either. Narayan Maharaja, Mula Prakriti, Gopa Vrndapal type people, seen them all the time. They get the big maha plate, the big seat, the big garlands, the big senior respect, but then ... they want us to worship the people whose program is going to have us beaten with iron pipes.

    And the truly bad news is, we might survive and have to live in pain for the rest of our lives. They don't even finish us off, we have to life half dead. That is what my friend says, he is alive, but half dead. He has to live half dead so they can get the big seat and big garlands.

    All this is thanks to them and their idea of worshiping people from hell. People who get us beaten half dead, have no idea what happens to them in the next life. They are just about as clueless as their "guru" Satsvarupa. Ignorance is the source of suffering, and they are causing it everywhere, but that does not excuse them.

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