Chief Pharisee of the Sodomites Religion
As soon as Kalakantha sees someone is not having their children bowing down to his homosexual and pedophile messiahs in samadhis project, he is angry and upset. How can Kalakantha get the children of the world to worship his homosexual pedophiles in samadhi project, or his pedophile acharyas in Mayapur project, if they are worshiping Jesus instead, or Prabhupada?
Next problem! Why would any woman even want Kalakantha's -- illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club's -- guru certification? That would mean that woman would have to agree with Kalakantha's program -- that God's guru succession is often populated with deviants, lusty dogs and even pedophiles. Even now as we speak Kalakantha's program is advertising a known pedophile guru to speak in their headquarters in Mayapur, as the messiah of the children for his program.
Yep, as soon as the Kalakantha program finds a lusty dog child crotch grabber, or people having oral sex with boys in the motorhome etc., they fall of their chairs and think they have met the reincarnations of Jesus. And those of us who do not want to promote his molester messiahs project are banned, beaten, sued, and maybe assassinated. And all of this and more will be exposed in an upcoming mass media presentation.
Worse, a woman guru would have to agree that Kalakantha's guru succession from God is being managed, owned and operated by -- the same people who vote in illicit sex deviants / pedophiles / drunks etc. as gurus in the first place. How can the promoters of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children "vote in" and administer "God's successors" either male or female?
And why do none of them, male or female, not know that God's line of succession is not EVER populated with illicit sex deviants, pedophiles, drunks, porno swamis etc.? And why would they say worship of Jesus is the bogus ritviks idea, because children are not going to be worshiping their line of homosexuals, pedophiles in samadhis, or pedophiles as the acharyas in Mayapur, their head quarters etc.?
Which other religion says that God's successors are often drunks, debauchees and pedophiles? And what sane woman wants to be certified as co-guru by that process? Just asking! Hee hee!
ys pd
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Many Moons Podcast Episode 15
*All my Spiritual Sons & Daughters * Why Srila Prabhupada Wanted Vaishnavi Diksa Gurus with *KALAKANTHA DAS* (ACBSP)
*About*: Srila Prabhupada wrote in a Letter to Hansadutta on the 3rd January 1969: “I want that all of my spiritual sons and daughters will inherit this title of Bhaktivedanta, so that the family transcendental diploma will continue through the generations. Those possessing the title of Bhaktivedanta will be allowed to initiate disciples.”
Fifty-three years later, the issue of Vaisnavi Diksa gurus remains a contested topic, which threatens to divide the devotee community. Join us to discuss the importance of addressing this issue with cultural sensitivity, social awareness, and loyalty to Srila Prabhupada’s mood & mission.
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KD: What should disciples do if their gurus are known to have made bad management decisions? Is the GBC capable of making bad decisions? Are GBC decisions absolute? Are decisions made by gurus in management absolute?
These are questions that discerning disciples have to weigh up. If your guru voted against female diksha-gurus for example, and you personally disagree with this decision, where do you stand? If your guru was involved in inaction which allowed child-abusers to continue abusing for decades, do you shrug your shoulders and accept it because such inaction is absolute?
If you accept that everything your guru says or does is absolute, you’ll have a problem in trying to explain how inaction is divine goodness which benefits one and all. Inaction involves aparadha. Allowing abuse to fester means allowing abusers to commit aparadha to victims, their families and loved ones. Wherever there are victims, aparadha has been committed. Is inaction which allows aparadha absolute divine truth full of benevolence?
GBC decisions have been amended or reformed in ISKCON’s short history. Clearly, GBC decisions are relative, subject to change in the future. Although all ISKCON members are subservient to these laws, they are relative-binding, not absolute-binding. As such, gurus who are GBC members are making relative management decisions.
Disciples have to weigh up between relative and absolute considerations as their gurus vote for decisions which affect all ISKCON members, positively or negatively. If disciples insist that their gurus in GBC management are maha-bhagavatas who make absolute decisions, how do they explain inaction which allows abuse and aparadha to go on?
A disciple can either be a blind fanatic to go along with the absolute reasoning or stop, think and explore the relative options. Accepting relative options means accepting that mistakes can be made. Is it too much to accept that gurus can err in decision-making? For this reason alone, perhaps gurus shouldn’t be in management positions.
If disciples are faced with these pendulum swinging issues, they should speak to their gurus about them. If disciples hold an opinion different from the guru, it shouldn’t interfere with relationships. Diversity is allowed.
For instance, if disciples hold the view that female diksha-gurus should be allowed to initiate, but their guru disagrees, does that mean that disciples must agree with their gurus on these points? Are disciples entitled to opinions that differ from those of their gurus? There is leeway to discuss these quandaries which are relative. Mature gurus and disciples can work things out mutually. This won’t happen if absolutism rules.
Even now, there are devotees who describe known aparadhi-abusers as maha-bhagavatas. What on earth is it that is in our ISKCON education system which allows such fanaticism to arise?
Without distinguishing between relative and absolute possibilities in regards to guru and disciple relationships, we’ll end up with no ability to reason with fanatical disciples of any guru. To cool the temperature, it might be helpful if gurus admit that they aren’t infallible absolutists in everything they say and do, as has been proven by the relatively poor GBC decisions made over the years.
Ys K Dasa.
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Anuttama das: "technically I could become a diksa guru [...] people might come up and say ‘he's an idiot, don't let him do it', but technically there's no barrier [...] that doesn't mean because I start being a guru tomorrow I'm perfect in the sense I'm never going to do anything wrong. You know, I'm a human being, I've got flaws [...]"
However, Srila Prabhupada teaches that a bona fide diksa guru must be liberated and does not commit mistakes:
"Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Krsna, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can re-lease the conditioned soul."
(Bg., 7.14, purport)
(Bg., 7.14, purport)
"Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws [...]"
JD: These people are like a broken record. In 1978 they said, ISKCON "henceforward" will worship lusty animals as "Krishna's gurus." Are we going to worship Srila Prabhupada henceforward? Better not suggest that, then the beatings get started.
ReplyDeleteNow we are facing their awful history ... their worshiping lusty dogs created a huge wave of child abuse ... and endless other scandals. What are we going to do to fix that? We are going to allow women to become members of the lusty dogs guru society. WTF?
How does that fix it? They need to make an honest assessment ... our promoting lusty dogs as Krishna's gurus ... has failed. And caused many children to be molested ... and endless other harmful arrows that pierced and attacked ISKCON's body ... and destroyed the society ... and destroyed most of the alienated members ... and this has sucked the life out of the society.
Even if they find some old fart arrogant senior grandmother to be the next guru, that also does not fix this. She won't be here for long. It is not a lasting fix. It seems they are doing everything possible to avoid ... promoting Srila Prabhupada as the guru.
Some woman who is arrogant enough to think she can take sins, she is the next messiah, needs to be given some mental health medications, not a guru medal of honor. They just keep trying to fix the problem of not worshipping the acharya, by making endless amounts of false acharyas. It is not going to work.
M Dasi: I wish that all my sons and daughters would have their children worship pedophiles, and not me. And make ISKCON a bankrupted dead zombie zone.
ReplyDeleteAnd how is that working out for you chumps? Do I want my children to worship pedophiles? Not really. Then they wonder why their temples are ghost towns. Cannot make this up. I almost forgot, anyone who does not worship their pedophile guru system is -- a bogus ritviks.
And now some old bat sh*t crazy senile "Prabhupada senior" grandma will be one of their gurus. All that does is insult senile old grandmothers. I forgot, she can only be guru when her kids support her and not taking funds from the GBC guru's opulent dwellings bank account. Can't make this up!
In Vṛndāvana you'll find that they are keeping themself in a secluded place and supposed to be chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. But practically it has been seen that by such artificial way of becoming Kṛṣṇa consciousness, it does not make anyone advanced. I have seen practically. They are living in a secluded place, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, but practically, when he comes out, he's smoking. You see. He cannot give up even smoking, and what to speak of this material world? You see? That is artificial. This is not recommended. First of all you become mature. Then secluded place.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise there is no secluded place. Māyā is everywhere. Māyā will dictate, "Oh, you are so tired. Why don't you come out and smoke a cigarette?" Yes. And he thinks he's advancing, the nonsense is advancing. (Prabhupada lecture Bg As it is 3.1-5 Los Angeles, December 20th 1968)
GG: *** And most of their gurus are living secluded lives, and many times in big mansions, maybe with female servants and big feasts. They are in Maya already, even in the secluded place is Maya.
Mama Bear: "Chief Pharisee of the Sodomites Religion." I got to remember that one. Is there any better way to sum them all up? There are the Sodomites, and the Pharisee Priests for them.
ReplyDeleteThey have always been on this planet in Kali Yuga. They are not allowed in other Yugas, only the most sinful one. Srila Prabhupada wanted to take us to Vaikuntha, they wanted to give us another Sodom and Gomorrah. That pretty much explains the whole thing doesn't it?
And anyone who does not bow down to their Sodomite Priests, will be burnt at the stake. Any questions? Yes, just one question. How many repeated yugas do they have to stay in hell for doing all this?
I feel so lucky that they rejected me and left me out of their group. Being part of their group is a curse. When people are sad to be rejected by them, I tell them, you are the luckiest person. You were rejected by the Sodomite's religion. That means, you were saved by God. He helped you get out of there. And now we have to help others get out of there, until there is no Sodomite's religion left remaining.