PADA: ISKCON GBC guru defender Mayesvara says there are 100% no symptoms of poison, and 100% there are symptoms of poison -- simultaneously. He is arguing with his own shadow. OK another GBC friendly person's mental melt down process. Keeps happening more these days!
Hanuman Dasa: -- Mayesvara says: “When I eventually did get to see a photo of Srila Prabhupada that some body had taken, he was skin and bones, and it was shocking, it was like “Oh my gosh! Prabhupada looks like he has been poisoned!”
That was many peoples first impression, “he looks like he’s been poisoned!”
There were people who hadn’t seen him, they had travelled a long way, and they would come into his room and say, “Prabhupada you look like you have been poisoned.”
And that’s why Srila Prabhupada said, “someone says that I have been poisoned.”
So here Mayesvara repeatedly informs us that disciples (including himself) felt that Srila Prabhupada looked like he was poisoned and openly declared this, even to Srila Prabhupada! After hearing these declarations multiple times, Srila Prabhupada raised concerns declaring, “someone says that I have been poisoned.”
But then Mayesvara cites Mathura Pati's site to prove that "PADA is a liar." OK we keep getting GBC guru folks -- or promoters of the GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru program (like Mayesvara) -- to send me links to this guy's (Mathura Pati / in orange coat) web site and / or Prahlad's (Paul Coats) site. Hmm, whose side are they on?
It seems the Prabhupadanugas EU site is compromised with the GBC folks, which is why the GBC ilk keep citing them to me. The party that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas has found a hero to defend their program -- Prabhupadanugas EU! Oh yeah, they also poison pure devotees.
Prabhupadanugas EU asks "Who is PADA"? Well we are the people who say it is not a good idea to worship homosexuals and pedophiles as God's messiahs. The next question is, why does Prabhupadanugas EU combat PADA, and promote the cheer leaders of the homosexual and pedophile messiahs project? And guru poisoners party?
Oddly, someone told me Mathura Pati does not understand these issues. He does not understand that promoting the cheer leaders of homosexual and pedophile worship and guru poisoner's program is wrong, when any dog eating karmi knows it is wrong? How can he not know it is wrong is the actual question. Of course, all sorts of GBC folks always say to me "well we did not know" (pedophile worship is bogus).
Of course, they MUST know that their program of promoting the cheer leaders of homosexual and pedophile messiahs is wrong. I am not buying that they do not know. But it is the same as the GBC folks, they also either know this is all wrong or ... how can they not know as well?
Yep. It is somewhat amazing that some "Krishna devotees" evidently do not know that it is wrong and sinful to help or promote the ISKCON GBC guru defenders of the post-1978 homosexual and pedophile guru program, when even the dog eater society knows this is sinful.
So many devotees have told me this over the years, "OK sure, it is a homosexual and pedophile guru program, no question, but so what, what is the big deal all about prabhu"? Really? Lets stop PADA from protesting! OK maybe 2,000 kids were abused, Srila Prabhupada says he is being poisoned, and yeah -- what is the big deal here indeed!
Sorry! A devotee of Krishna should ALREADY know that he should not promote those who are promoting homosexuals and pedophiles and assorted deviants as Krishna's guru successors. But even the karmis know this.
Sometimes people ask me "who are you to criticize"? I once wrote to a UK devotee named Michael Powell (Mahavidya?) and told him we should go after the GBC's homosexual and pedophile worship process. He wrote angrily back to me very upset -- challenging me, "who the hell are you, you are not my boss, you are a nobody, you use bad language" etc. Oh no, we should not be using bad language when children are suffering from anal reconstructive surgery epidemics!
OK never mind, we will just expose them ourselves in other venues, and we are. But on no account did Michael EVER say, hey -- you are wrong. Nope, he knows he cannot challenge the facts. Bad language -- perhaps, but not bad facts.
Who am I? Hee hee, nobody really, but since Krishna does not approve of bogus people posing as His guru successors, and He says he casts such false religionists into the darkest regions, it is pretty much ALL of our duty as His parts and particles to agree with Him, and to thus challenge bogus people posing as His successors. Otherwise, we too are cast into a dark place for acquiescing with all these dark forces. I was reading Manu Samihita recently, the people who allow evil are almost as guilty as the people committing the evil.
In sum, Krishna is counting on us particles to do His dirty work and challenge these bogus out croppings posing as His pure representatives. Again! Otherwise we become implicated in acquiescing.
As one devotee was telling me recently, these types of false devotees are asuras and have a long way to go to elevate to the modes of ignorance, where they at least worship someone like Jesus. Any Joe six pack on the street ALREADY knows that helping promote homosexual and pedophile messiahs projects is sinful, but not these guys! Therefore, followers of the GBC's pedophile messiahs program send me Mathura Pati's materials all the time, because evidently they are pedophile lover's club's team mates.
Mathura Pati says -- the reason he is promoting his homosexual and pedophile messiahs club's cheer leader pals is -- they oppose PADA. And that explains why GBC people keep sending me links to his site, birds of the same feather. Of course all of the cheer leaders of homosexual and pedophile worship will oppose PADA. Duh-oh! Mathura Pati has to promote the pedophile messiah's program's cheer leaders to oppose PADA, and asura princes promoted Kamsa 5,000 years ago to oppose Krishna. What good is that producing?
Of course Mathura Pati's hero GBC cheer leader Bhakta das was also arrested for some sort of sex crimes in Puri India, and he was busted for selling (potentially harmful) designer drugs in the USA. Some say those drugs can cause spontaneously abortion miscarriages. And these are the people Mathura Pati wants us to promote as his authorities on spiritual life!
Fine choice of shiksha gurus here!
OK also promoting Gaudiya Matha's gurus and Saint Radhanath. Then Mathura Pati's pal Prahlad complains -- PADA is not promoting Saint Radhanath's cheer leaders -- which is -- disturbing the unity of the Prabhupadanugas! It is always the same thing with these guys, we have to unite under the banner of promoting their cheer leaders of the process of burying homosexuals and pedophiles in the dham. Neine danke!
Yep, PADA is not a fan of burying homosexual pedophiles in the dham, so he is destroying the unity! That means they cannot find anyone else to protest PADA -- except these types of deviants. But I do love Mathura Pati's honesty, he admits he has to lick the jackboots of his favorite homosexual and pedophile messiah's program cheer leaders to challenge PADA. Another devotee was saying, there is unity here, they will all unite together on patala loka!
Sulochana and me also used to say -- the hand maidens of the GBC's molester messiah's program like Mathura Pati are -- giving children an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic. Mathura Pati (above in orange coat) says PADA is bogus for opposing that program. Yep. Sulochana used to also say this is "anal sex pooja."
And no one (like PADA) should oppose anal sex pooja! Who knew! For their part, Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur has never explained why they told PADA -- our opposing child beatings and rapes of Krishna's children "has no credibility," whereas defenders of the child abuse program ARE credible -- according to Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur's folks and HKC top cheer leaders like Prahlad das (Paul Coats).
Umm wait, you mean homosexual and pedophile messiah's clubs are bona fide and credible, while anyone who opposes is not bona fide? No wonder the GBC's people love these guys, and cite them. And no wonder there has been so many children victims of their process. This is going to fly well at Yamaraja's court. We had to promote the cheer leaders of a homosexual and pedophile messiah's program, to defeat PADA, because he does not promote our rubbish ideas!
Mayesvara Dasa
The reason I am disregarding PADA is he isn't capable of having a civil discussion and embellishes everything he says to suit his own temperment. (Just like Nico in fact!) I have caught him several times misrepresenting facts to suit just to boost his own over inflated ego. It is also clear by how he is responding to my comments, he doesn't even understand them or anything regarding the concept of jurisprudence.
Yes. He does attract the media who want to join in his campaign to denigrate Lord Caitanyas movement and with that as their goal he is the right person for them to hang out with. But for those who understand how offensive it is to blaspheme those who have dedicated their lives to the propagation of the holy name, he is NOT the guy to be listening to. This is not just my personal opinion, it is a well known reputation he has widely earned, as is evident by the many testimonies provided here:
WHO IS PURANJANA – PADA – PART I
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?
PADA: One thing these people also keep forgetting is -- personal attacks on me does not change the facts: many children have been abused; the books have been changed; Srila Prabhupada complains of poison, etc. These facts remain and will not change despite attacking the messenger. As my law enforcement friends have told me, attacking you (PADA) is ENABLING all these crimes to go on in ISKCON.
So if people are proud of enabling mass child molesting, changing the books of the guru, and aiding and abetting the Judas poisoners sabha, so be it. That is their problem, their destiny and their karma.
But yeah! Thanks Mayesvara for all that. OK Prabhupadanugas EU is run by Mathura Pati dasa -- and he says that PADA is doing the wrong thing by taking children away from a program where Krishna's children are being starved, beaten and raped. Mathura Pati cites cheer leaders of the child beating and raping messiah's club as his shiksha guru authorities.
And Mathura Pati says he is with HKC Jaipur. Sorry, even people who cook and eat dogs in China know that child beatings and rapes of children programs need to be opposed. Some folks have said, these people are less than Tamas guna, they are supporters of evil programs that attack children.
For his part Prabhupadanuga EU friend Prahlad das said he is going to sic the molester messiah's enforcers upon me -- to do my physical harm, or maybe kill me. The defenders of the child beatings and rapes programs are very violent against the Vaishnavas, which is why we had to help the FBI investigate various murders that their program has been doing. So they want to promote the Radhanath program cheer leaders, ooops, same program that iced Sulochana and wanted to ice me.
I cannot post comments from victims when they comment on pedophile guru club defenders, because I try to tone down the language here. Prahlad was also crying that PADA was taking away funds from his favorite molester messiahs project, because now his favorite homosexual and pedophile messiahs project folks won't have a golden Cadillac! It is amazing that a program that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas needs to have big Cadillacs for its leaders, or else the people kissing the jack boots of the leaders like Prahlad will be crying.
Oh no, my favorite program in the universe, the illicit sex with men, women and children pooja messiahs project, will not have its leaders riding in Cadillacs! I gotta go cry now! Sheesh, someone gimme a kleenex so my buckets of tears don't go all over! Anyway, these people are all the same, and that is why they promote each other. And when they promote each other, then thousands of children have had to suffer the consequences of their process.
Well sorry, we are not liars, we said our opponents are defenders of poisoner and pedophile programs, and -- they are. And more and more and more people are agreeing every day. They know that, hence, they are having melt downs.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
krishna1008: Method to the madness? / Mathura Pati Feedback / Getting Facts Straight
SP: The kṣatriya, or the man who is qualified to protect the sufferers, is meant to rule the state. Untrained lower-class men, or men without ambition to protect the sufferers, cannot be placed on the seat of an administrator. Unfortunately, in the Age of Kali the lower-class men, without training, occupy the post of a ruler by strength of popular votes, and instead of protecting the sufferers, such men create a situation quite intolerable for everyone. Such rulers illegally gratify themselves at the cost of all comforts of the citizens, and thus the chaste mother earth cries to see the pitiable condition of her sons, both men and animals. That is the future of the world in the Age of Kali, when irreligiosity prevails most prominently. And in the absence of a suitable king to curb irreligious tendencies, educating the people systematically in the teaching of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam will clear up the hazy atmosphere of corruption, bribery, blackmail, etc. -SB 1.17.27
https://www.youtube.com/live/1ZZDH4EJDzI?si=EsJnnjudbxtK4w_s
Sunday March 23 5pm Eastern Time
Monday March 24 10am NZT
Dhira Govinda (Dr David B. Wolf) joins us in this episode to discuss Srila Prabhupada's hypothesis that someone gave him poison.
We will examine what Srila Prabhupada's hypothesis was, how followers should handle it, and what investigation has been done to validate or invalidate this hypothesis.
Many theories have been developed from this hypothesis, but we will be starting from first principles, and proceeding carefully step-by-step using the philosophical tools given to us by Srila Prabhupada himself, examining the strength and caveats at each point.
This will be a rigorous vada - a structured philosophical discussion aimed at discovering truth. Get ready for a fresh take that cuts through the complexity and brings illumination to the topic.
Dhira Govinda is the Vice President of the Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation. He is the Founder of the ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection and was its Director from 1998 – 2004. He is the author of "Krsna, Israel, and the Druze: An Interreligious Odyssey", "Relationships That Work: The Power of Conscious Living", and "The Power of Bhakti: Ancient Spiritual Science for the Modern Distracted Mind".
STAY TUNED! Sita Pati Video: https://www.youtube.com/live/1ZZDH4EJDzI?si=EsJnnjudbxtK4w_s
Sunday March 23 5pm Eastern Time
Ep #55. Srila Prabhupada's hypothesis that someone gave him poison | feat. Dhira Govinda das
youtube.com
Ep #55. Srila Prabhupada's hypothesis that someone gave him poison | feat. Dhira Govinda das
Dhira Govinda (Dr David B Wolf) joins us in this!
M Dasi: Sigh. They always say we are liars. Thats all they have. They cannot admit they are criminals. If we know they are criminals, and the children know they are criminals, then Yamaraja knows too.
ReplyDeleteThey are going to fool Krishna "it is lies!! They really are the fools. We all know it is not lies, because we all know many victims. Some of them ... many of them ... are children. Are all these children liars? No, they are the liars.
LM: Those who defend the pedophiles ... are the cause of all the child abuse. And they are proud of that!
ReplyDeletePersonally I would never advertise I was their defender. But shameless people will ... because they are shameless. It is good that we expose all of them because it is a network.
MMD: Mayesvara seems to be ... losing it. He says ... he is sure there are not symptoms, but he is also sure ... there are symptoms. What a jerk!
ReplyDeleteIt is too bad these Prabhupadanuga EU people are working with these jerks.
They advertise Saint Sulochana ... but he was heavily against the child abuse. He would never be with them.
=================
PADA: Yes, they are for Saint Sulochana, and at the same time for the cheer leaders of Saint Radhanath program, that got rid of Sulochana. The are for Prabhupada, and for the people who got rid of Prabhupada. They are Kali Yuga hypocrites. They said we are liars to discredit us and save their pedophile and poisoner pals, it is simple. So they all belong together, they have the same agenda. More people are seeing that all the time.
SD Dasi: Mayesvara ... another lost soul. Fighting poison issue ... while they know FULL WELL Srila Prabhupada's condition looks like ... poison. Not surprised !!! those against us exposing these crimes joining forces. Birds of the same feather.
ReplyDeleteGBC lost souls now take shelter of Prabhupadanuga EU lost souls ... to fight the truth of what happened. They are trying hard ... to take down anyone exposing them.
Actually is good. They see the wind is shifting for us.
The idea Srila Prabhupada's complaint is "junk science" is really ... last ditch desperation. They have no where else to go now. It is all lies, junk science, fake news, ... that is no longer working. The truth shall set us free ... and the truth is ... these people are liars to cover up crimes against devotees, even Srila Prabhupada.
They are all criminals of the same feather. We cannot allow them to continue covering up their crimes. Glad all this is coming out, even though ... it is so sad, the boil has to be popped.
PADA: Yep, it is amazing how as soon as me and Sulochana say: children are being molested, books are being changed, and then -- Srila Prabhupada complains of poison, the pedophile and poison lover's club says "this is all PADA lies" so they can keep their pedophile messiah and poisoner of guru friends being worshiped as good as God.
ReplyDeleteIt has worked out pretty good for them so far, but I detect a lot of people are starting to think, hmmm, maybe these are not all PADA lies. Hee hee. Yeah they are slipping big time, we are gaining big time.
We can only fool people for so long, and they start to wake up on their own. They always said this is all lies starting in 1978, but hey, we seem to have the upper hand presently. So yeah, not too worried about these defenders of the evil doers. Their time of reign is coming to a close. My job is to expose all their webs, nests, tentacles, hand maidens, assistants, apologists, and etc. And i am.
PADA: Yeah LD none of the promoters of the homosexual and pedophile guru process like PADA. But Mathura Pati did admit to a mutual friend, he has to take shelter of the pedophile messiahs project in order to defeat PADA.
ReplyDeleteThat is like saying I have to take shelter of Satan to defeat Jesus. You have not defeated Jesus, you defeated yourself by helping fools promote bogus messiahs who are competing with Jesus. But that is good news, the only people who want to help him are the cheer leaders of homosexual and pedophile gurus. No normal devotees want anything to do with him.
ys pd
JD: We really need to combine with the Saint Radhanath people ... that will help. Whoaaa! Wasn't Radhanath helping get rid of Sulochana? Wasn't Radhanath helping make a bogus samadhi for Kirtanananda? Bhakti Vikas says ... Radhanath is making mayavada?
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of Prabhupadanuga wants to merge with this hot mess? How about none! These people are NOT PRABHUPADANUGAS. They are stealing our title and CHEATING PEOPLE.
This is another GBC program disguised as bona fide. These GBC cheaters take over everywhere ... now claiming that they ... are us. They are NOT US! This is not what any real Prabhupadanuga wants ... to merge with Saint Radhanath hot mess.
Prabhupadanuga EU really showed their real colors ... I guess that is a good thing. Just look at any ISKCON site ... smiley pants Radhanatha pictures all over the place. Radhanath does not have anything to do with what we are doing. And it is very corruption to say he does.