PADA: This all started in 1997 when I got "the 1977 poison tapes," and many people, ok most people (even some of the so-called ritviks) thought I had gone bonkers. This is another PADA nuts-so idea! Well maybe not!
It looks to me like Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint is a very serious issue, and is being taken more and more seriously by more and more people. Bhagavan das has been recently complaining about the presentation of the poison issue saying, it looks horrible that a spiritual man was poisoned! Well yeah, that means these leaders are worried about the issue taking hold, because it makes them look compromised with a very evil program. Or even, the most evil program in Vaishnava history.
Yeah it does look bad, no one can disagree, but what all of these big gurus did after 1978 was also a type of poisoning of the society. As Dhira govinda says, some people are glad to find out that this poison issue was the root of the whole poison tree, because it makes everything else that happened understandable.
It is what it is. Srila Prabhupada makes a poison complaint, audio and toxicology experts say there is further evidence, and it looks like there is no easy counter explanation for all this. I would have to also say, anyone who did this to a pure devotee is in for one hellava bumpy ride in their future lives.
I am just relieved to see it is coming out -- at all -- after all the negative nay saying, back biting, denial, push back etc that went against me for such a long time. It looks like the wind is picking up on this issue, and that is Krishna's arrangement IMHO. Sorry, the truth shall set us free. And the truth is -- Srila Prabhupada opened the door on this issue, and I believe he expected us to enter that door and pursue the issue. ys pd
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JD: This is why the GBC is flipping out. They see more people are agreeing ... they took out their guru. Probably ... with poison. It has a lot of weight to it. Even worse ... it makes lots of sense considering everything else.
ReplyDeleteI am one of them. We might win in court ... we might not ... but we are winning the court of public opinion. Inevitable.
Even some of the dull brains around here ... they do not even like PADA ... but they think that poison is a real possibility. They don't like the GBC either.
The popular opinion is ... many GBC are like snakes and poison is what happens when a pure devotee is in their midst.
Sure we were talking about how other gurus were poisoned in the past ... and some lawyer poisoned his wife ... but we were not doing that to see ... how we could do it now. Sure! Not buying it!
D Dasi: Sitapati says he cannot hear whispers ... so they are not real evidence. I can hear them ... and they are real evidence. I think his wife's intuition is more correct.
ReplyDeleteHe is trying to overlook key evidence.
He gets the right idea ... more or less ... but it is sad they cannot see these obvious pieces ... are part of the whole. They were whispering because ... at the time they could not hear on their recorders.
Modern tech and forensics are more advanced than what was available then. Krishna is using modern tech to clear this up.
Srila Prabhupada knew very well what was happening ... but he is a surrendered soul. Ravana will kill or Rama will kill. This suicide or that suicide.
He accepted his situation ... without complaint ... just like Prahlad, Haridasa, Jesus and other saints. Still ... it is tragic and very heart breaking sad ... that this happened to a great devotee.
I am afraid for the whole world's karma now. Things are going to hell already. And this is making the possible sinful reactions ... way worse. This is heavy heart breaking ... and that is all there is to it ... in the end.
But only his real devotees will cry about it ... the cheaters will make pretend there is nothing to see here. The problem for these cheaters is ... we all are waking up.
And once we wake up ... we will never go back to sleep on their crimes again. We can see their real Putana forms despite the outward nice cheating dress.