We Accepted Illusion / Bhagavat Maharaja / Kailasa's Pedo Pooja Defense

AD: We were all told to accept the GBC gurus.

PADA: Yep, well in 1979 we were saying that since Jayatirtha is having an affair with his disciple -- and he is taking intoxicants and screaming and shouting on the Vyasa, and jumping into the crowd like a punk rocker in the mosh pit, that means, he is a deviant and not an acharya. I think many thousands of devotees knew by that time that the GBC was covering up for, and defending, various predators and / or intoxicated exploiters in the post of acharya. 

This story was known all over the place in 1979. But as soon as I said, my kids will never worship this foolishness as their acharyas, ever, they kicked me out. And then various GBC and their people like Kirtanananda began to publicly preach openly on their Vyasa big seats -- the real Jayatirtha is serving Krishna purely, and the deviating Jayatirtha was the maya Jayatirtha, just like there is Mother Sita's real and maya forms. 

In other words, they were publicly assailing the character of Mother Sita to justify and cover up for their deviating gurus, and they were training the children to understand that predators and Mother Sita have some common platform. And these are just a few examples of what they were mis-educating people and their children. 

So I am not sure how so many people could have missed all these red flags. Anyway, my opinion is, training children to worship predators is psychological mistreatment right out of the gate, and physical mistreatment generally follows that process like a shadow. And it did. 

There were many red flags, and that is Krishna's warning signs. And red flag means, stop everything, but these flags were ignored by all too many people. But yeah they told me the same thing, we are the annointed ones. And I said, nope, you are the deviating ones. 

Anyway now we have to pick up the pieces and move ahead to try to heal the situation. But we also need to understand the history of how we got to where we are now. I am again being interviewed for another mass media, and they find it very amazing that all these red flags were ignored, and people like us were suppressed as a result. Anyway, now there is a counter movement to theirs and that is a good start to help fix our society. ys pd

BHAGAVAT MAHARAJA

PADA: I think the wider issue has come into focus here. Why does Bhagavat become a sannyasa, just after Srila Prabhupada says -- no more sannyasa? Why does Bhagavat take sannyasa from Narayan Maharaja, who was in Texas defending Tamal when I was in Texas having Tamal sued? Why does Bhagavat say he cannot work with the other NM sanghas, because there are deviations, and then he supports Bhakti bandhav, which evidently contains predator deviations? 

But yeah, some guidelines for sannyasa / gurus should also be established. And we all know that Narayan Maharaja was in a big hurry to go hug Kirtanananda after refusing to see me. There seems to be sympathy for false sannyasas overall, and their sitting with children on their lap is merely one item on a long list of items. 

The whole sannyasa and guru process has to be rectified, and all of the issues need to be addressed. Kirtanananda had little boys on his lap all the time, then Narayan goes there to hug him and he avoids us, there is a pattern here. That is the larger issue. As for bulldozing, yeah we dissenters have been bull dozed left, right and center. And we can judge a things by the results. And the results are self evident, the child mistreatment was enabled to industrial levels. ys pd


KAILASA CHANDRA DAS and the VAISNAVA FOUNDATION

PADA: We cannot allow people to call Vaishnavas "scum" to make them targets for termination as Kailasa is doing since 1986. Nor should these terms be used or allowed in Vaishnava forums -- or even mundane karmi forums, such malefic name calling is low class animal behavior, and Sulochana says -- it ends with us being terminated by discrediting us. Now Kailasa admits he is citing Hari Sauri, who is promoting Kailasa's pedo acharyas regime in Mayapura. Kailasa is a defender of pedos acharyas, again and again. Sulochana said Hari Sauri is calling us sahajiyas to make us targets. And Kailasa is Hari Sauri's top shelf disciple. That means Sulochana is right, Kailasa made Sulochana a target by calling him a sahajiya, according to Sulochana. Why is Kailasa making Sulochana a target to have him terminated? And Kailasa has been citing Bhakti pedos Berkeley people, and now he is citing Hari Sauri / Bhavananda's pedo pada people. Kailasa is in bed with these pedo gurus supporters and has been all along.

And he has been writing position papers to defend them. Why is he defending -- and quoting from -- mass child mistreatment and terminating Vaisnavas programs? And now he is calling more Vaishnavas scum, to make them targets, so he can terminate more Vaishnavas. He is trying to terminate Vaisnavas, as Sulochana said. Why? Please answer the question.

If you call people "scum" on a karmi forum you will be removed permanently, the karmis also do not allows pigs and swine behavior, what to speak of Kailasa's pedo guru lovers club -- on their forums, because they are not behaving like low life animals. Now the Kailasa guys are citing Hari Sauri, king of the an+l reconstructive surgery epidemic of minors in Mayapura -- acharyas program. Why is Kailasa defending the worship of an+l reconstruction with minors program? Again! First Kailasa folks cite Bhakti pedo's people, now they are citing Hari Sauri -- that we are sahajiyas?

And Sulochana says, that makes hiim a target. Who cares if we are sahajiyas when we are trying to save thousands of kids form Kailasa's an+l surgery epidemic pooja process? And if you Kailasa guys cannot answer, never mind, we all know why you Kailasa guys defend your an+l reconstruction with minors acharyas programs, and so does the Berkeley law enforcement, and millions of people who see my story in the media. We are on to you pedo guru lovers agenda, that is the real issue and has been all along. And that is why I am going to another mass media production to expose you guys, you need to be exposed. And if you have a better explanation, citing the pedo lovers club from Mayapur, as you just now did, is not it. That appears to be a full admission who you are working with the whole time. Kailasa is working with Berkeley pedo lovers, now he admits he is working with Mayapura pedo guru lovers club, he is a pedo guru lover and has been since 1986. You need to explain -- why? All the rest is spinning. ys pd

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We are those demons.

Nara-Narayana : Prabhupada was lecturing at the Brahma Samaj in Nairobi and crushed demigod worship. He said, "Durga is riding on a tiger and she has got eight arms. In each of these arms there is a weapon. One of these weapons is a trident. The trident has got three prongs and what are these three prongs? It is the threefold miseries; adidaivik, adibotik, adiatmik." Staring at the audience he said, "And what is she doing with that trident?" 

He said, "She is stabbing demons" and as he said that Prabhupada made a stabbing motion with his arms. "And who are those demons?", he cried out. He looked around the group of fifteen hundred or so people and said, "We are those demons." He said, "Whoever is suffering from the threefold miseries, adidaivik, adibotik, adiatmik is being stabbed by the trident of Durga." 

He looked at the audience with a curled lip of utter disdain and as he waved his hand across and pointing to the crowd he said, "And they are worshiping." So that is how he crushed Durga worship in Africa and also created a big base for real Vaishnav preaching without compromise. Prabhupada saved everyone even though the people in the room were absolutely stricken because of Prabhupada's intense words. But like the doctor may sometimes, even without an anesthetic with the person screaming, cut away something in the body that is terribly injurious for the health of the patient, so Prabhupada was strong to cut out the desire to worship demigods.

From Prabhupada's example I learned not to mince words even if there was some risk of antagonizing someone.