Jay Seva Writes PADA 01 21 24

Soldier's wife demands husband's return at Putin HQ (yahoo.com)

PADA: Yeah, you want to give me back my husband, when he is a stump with no arms and legs, thanks Mr. Russian government! It is always the women and children who get the short end of the stick with these Kali wars.  

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HENRY DOKTORSKI

Just received some nice encouragement from a former ISKCON devotee in the United Kingdom who just ordered Killing For Krishna. He says:

Henry Prabhu, I served as a faithful servant for 24 years in the ashram , and then I was thrown out onto the streets!! I began "researching" about this stuff (anomolies in ISKCON) when it was not even legal to talk about it in the temple. I was marked as, what did they say, incorrigible! 

I really appreciate your work, Prabhu. The value and importance of your work will be felt for hundreds of years!!!! I will make a mission to buy all your books and work on presenting them to the world where ever I go.

VK United Kingdom

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JAY SEVA WRITES

After all it is said that an envious man can't be controlled by no means, at least within the boundary of the humans made laws. You're insane, it's in a way good that you, the destroyer of so many peoples lives are so conspicuously uncontrollable nonsense blabbing drunkard and God know what else. 

PADA: OK well that is what you GBC ilk folks have argued all along, that we "dissenters" are drunken sahajiyas, who watch TV etc. And now you -- and Kailasa chandra folks -- are repeating what the Kirtanananda followers said about us, because you and Kailasa chandra are more in the Kirtanananda camp -- and that is why you accept and cite them as your authority.

Which self evidently means, only us drunken sahajiyas know there is a MAJOR problem with criminal mass child abuse, while you Kirtanananda groupies don't know that. We so-called drunk sahajiyas -- at least tried to do something to address the issue, while you guys did nothing, except -- try to stop us from protesting and addressing the issue -- by calling us crazy drunks. 

Yep, only a babbling drunk knows mass child abuse is a criminal problem, while you de facto Kirtanananda guys wanted to stop us from protesting -- self evidently -- to save your pedo messiah's project. As soon as the topic of child abuse comes up, you guys always start talking about crazy babbling drunks -- to discredit the complaints about your child abuse regime. 

Same thing with Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad UK / HKC Jaipur et al., they also say anyone complaining about mass child abuse is "a crazy babbling drunk" citing their Kirtanananda camp authority. Sorry, Kirtanananda's camp and their slogans are not my authority. 

We all know this about you poor old loser pizza boy. Your hate for the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna and His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada whom you do consequently offend for decades will not go unpunished.

PADA: Well yeah, the pizza eating mundane society and their law enforcement / courts / media had to help me address your mass child abuse process, while the "devotees" [like you guys] -- as a class -- didn't help. The "devotees" in fact many times try to hinder us from protesting your Kirtanananda guru folks process. I agree. 

You dragged the Lordships into your dirty network of conspiracies and legal actions as an act of revenge for your own children going to ISKCON gurukulas.

PADA: These kids never were sent to any ISKCON gurukulas, but even if they did, what does that matter? Mass child abuse needs to be countered -- whether this kid or that kid ever participated or didn't. Notice you are making insinuation about some kids being in ISKCON gurukulas, when they were never there. That means you are attacking children by misrepresenting their situation. But that is typical of you Kirtanananda groupies. Attack children first, ask questions later. Why does your program always involve attacking children? 

I also forgot, you guys don't want us to "take revenge" on your molester messiah's program, you wanted to be well behaved / goody two shoes / acquiescing / unicorns and rainbows / sitting on the side lines / while the mass abuse runs amok. That is basically what even the media folks have told me, most devotees do not want any protest. Worse, "the devotees" will often -- as not -- protest -- PADA's  protest.

Even Arjuna was told BY KRISHNA to avenge the attacks his family was getting, but you goody two shoes nice guys have no idea that revenge is sometimes required, even in the case of mass molesting of children. Sorry, if you don't take revenge on mass child abuse, you are implicated in acquiescing.   

What about the torn apart anuses?! 

PADA: Good question. Why are you against us for trying to save children from getting torn apart anuses? Are you saying you do not want that process challenged --- ummm -- like many of your fellow GBC-ophiles? We should not challenge or "take revenge" on a program that is assaulting children? We are at least trying to fix that problem, you guys are trying to stop us, guess whose side you are on? And guess whose side many victims / law enforcement / media tell me you guys are on?  

You and all the parents of the raped in gurukula children should be counted as co-responsible for what happened with their children. 

PADA: So why are you saying we should not take action to fix the problem? We are trying to be as responsible as we can be to solve the situation, so we should sit back and not fix it. That makes you co-responsible because you are trying to stop us people from challenging the problem. But yeah, the parents should have helped us more, and reported all this to law enforcement, that is also true.

And blame Srila Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krishna for every or in fact any nonsense made allegedly in Their name or because of Them. 

PADA: But you de facto are blaming Krishna by saying it is wrong for us to address the problem, that means you guys are "leaving it up to Krishna." How many times I heard "leave it to Krishna" from you guys? Krishna is not our hand maiden, we have to take steps to fix things ourselves. Attacking the whistle blowers is helping the regime and not the victims. 

God is not our personal janitor. So you guys doing nothing makes Krishna and His devotees look bad. Sorry, it is ALL of our jobs to fix things, not "leave it up to Krishna" to try to shuffle the load onto Him and make Him look bad. If Prabhupada's devotees allow a criminal molester messiah's program to take over their religion, it makes Krishna look bad. Many media people have said -- thank God we met you, at least some Krishna's are protesting.

I am in favor of not allowing these crimes to happen. I also never said Krishna created this mess, I said the leaders and acquiescing rank and file did. Yes Krishna allowed that, but He also "allows" wars, animal slaughter, and so many countless horrible things, but that does not mean He endorses or approves of these bad behaviors. He does allow bad people to do bad things, that is not His endorsement.  

This is but the message you foolishly largely perpetuated in the public sphere. 

PADA: Yeah but the police, FBI and media folks said the only reason I lived is by going public. It made me too loud, too conspicuous, too obvious, and too significant of a target. Apart from that, why would you want child abuse problems not made public, which saves the regime and not the children? 

Why do you want to defend mass child abuse by not alerting the parents to the issue? We are not allowed to bring any of this up inside ISKCON, it has to be public courts and media -- or not at all. I forgot, you guys wanted nothing at all, so the children would have had no relief. At least we gave the victims some support, what did you guys do then or now? So we made this public, and then hundreds of kids were pulled out of GBC schools. And you wanted them to stay there? 

You are feeding demons with your own hate to Prabhupada and Krishna.

PADA: Wow, so anyone who objects to mass child abuse hates Krishna. Well everyone I know says that your policy of allowing child abuse is hating on Krishna and His parts and parcels. Allowing children to be abused is how to love Krishna? No wonder so many of the ex-children victims ended up against Krishna. Saving children from abuse is helping the children from the demons, and opposing us is feeding the demons by enabling them.

Therefore you can't chant. 

PADA: OK well that is what Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks also said, the reason I oppose their mass child mistreatment defense is -- I am not chanting my rounds. Oh, so the people who defend mass child abuse are chanting? Horrible advert for chanting! And these HKC Jaipur groupie guys were also quoting Kirtanananda's people that we are drunks. They are with Kirtanananda's program and that makes them sincere chanters? 

Therefore you drink cheap alcohol.

PADA: Well yeah, after listening to you guys, I should be taking a bottle of percodans and two bottles of Vodka every few days, hee hee. You got me there pardner!  

And you get help from your friends from the law enforcement or mass media. 

PADA: Well yeah, they understand that mass child abuse is evil and needs to be checked. And yeah you guys are upset that hundreds of kids were pulled out of your guru schools -- thanks to our lawsuit, and probably thousands more were never sent -- thanks to us. You are angry that you could not victimize more of your little victims. Got it. 

OK so anyone who cites Kirtanananda Bhakti pedo pada that we are drunks [like you, Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur / Kailasa and his people] is authorized, and anyone who opposes is insane. Yep, anyone who says children should not be mistreated is insane, and quoting Bhakti pedo pada is sane. 

We got that already. Why are you and Kailasa folks always citing Bhakti pedo pada's folks, a bogus fraud guru who was being advertised as another Jesus? Why are you guys in bed with Bhakti pedo pada aka your new Jesus? And why cannot any of you answer the question since 1986? 

But you are correct, we had to get the pizza society to sue your program for $400,000,000 while you guys have been still citing Bhakti pedo pada meister's project. Yep, we had hundreds of kids pulled out of your guys "guru schools" and you have been upset ever since that we cut the supply line of your victims. 

Wow, so anyone who is not citing Bhakti pedo pada is envious, that is what Bhakti pedo pada said, and you are his puppet. Got it. Only the sincere chanters are citing Bhakti pedo pada. Sheesh! The only logical explanation? You wanted those hundreds of kids not to be pulled out ... so you could make a fresh wave of your victims. We understand your agenda, and so do the courts. And so does Lord Yamaraja. 

Anyway good luck. I feel sorry for your guys. You and Kailasa chandra have done nothing to alleviate the child mistreatment problem, and you never will. And you cannot build any alternative society -- by citing the slogans of the Pedo pada folks. It is just turning people off. And Mukunda citing the Hitler folks is also not making any progress, and it turns people away from the religion. We need to address problems in a sane and sober manner if we are going to make a sane and sober society. 

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