Why Didn't Narasimha Protect ISKCON? / Mayesvara Pt. 6

PADA: First of all, those of us who have been whistleblowers on the abuse problem have been banned, chased with bats, and worse -- and according to the police and Federal authorities -- our lives have been in constant danger. In fact, we were being set up to have our lives ended --- and I was only saved when the Feds were tapping their phones and they intercepted their goons when they came for me. 

Unfortunately, the Feds told me they had to use me "as bait" to arrest these goons. So we are clearly in danger. Danger from Lord Narasimgha? Nope! From whom? From "the devotees." Even Dr. Stilson Judah said he would not be suprised if I did not show up for our next meeting, "you are in extreme danger." In sum, the devotees as a group defended -- the regime -- and not us. And this will be exposed in (another) upcoming TV documentary, I have already done several. 

Lord Narasimgha also allows people to defend evil ... if they desire to. It is up to us to save things. And Arjuna was told to fight for the right cause, and so should we -- acting as agents of Lord Narasimgha. 

Even a woman TV news reporter told me, "If there was some guy in my Church dressed in a golden robe, wearing a golden crown, sitting on a gold chair, covered with the hands of 20 little boys, and he was obviously in pedophile heaven, I would have personally grabbed him off that chair myself. Where are are all your brave Bhagavad Gita reading men warriors? I haven't even read your scripture, but I know a person is supposed to fight evil, and I know that without even reading your scripture." 

In sum, our job is to defend children first, we are the servants of God, He is not our servant. Lord Narasimha sets the example, do not allow children to become victims, and we are supposed to follow His example. The reverse happened here, the evil regime was defended, not us, or the children. People who are chanting to Lord Narasimha, but who then defend an evil regime, will not get the blessings of Lord Narasimgha, nor will their society. ys pd

AD: Best answer.

VD: Devotees can easily be indoctrinated and brainwashed even to the point of becoming or acting in demonic way. Supporting demons and not opposing them.

They are easily persuaded to give up their minds, bodies and spirits by bad leaders and Shastras.

Even Prabhupada said that Kirtananda was a pure devotee so what to expect of the general mass of devotees and small children. All easy pickings. Who could imagine that even apparently intelligent devotees like Radhanath would be so naive or intrinsically evil. And blind to more evil before his very eyes. Many of these people are still in charge of Iskcon today.

I would never admit to be being part of it. It’s too embarrassing. I actually complain to Krishna daily about why he allows this. Or any cruelty to children in the world. If this is karma then it’s a wrong law. What’s the point of a law if people don’t know what they did wrong? That victimises little kids.

TD: It IS very embarrassing.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada may have said Kirtanananda is a pure devotee, I am not sure. What is sure is -- KS stole Srila Prabhupada's Gita manuscript and took it to publishers claiming he is the author. KS was trying to stop Srila Prahbupada's idea of having men wear dhotis. Srila Prabhupada said KS is envious because he is placing his photo on my altars already while I am still here. 

And -- KS is a mad man who should be sent back to Bellvue. KS defied my orders to go to London. KS's future is very dark. And so on. The fact that Srila Prabhupada had serious doubts about his leaders was well known to most of us seniors. Lets us also not forget that KS was part of the gang that had Srila Prabhupada locked in a room in 1970 -- in an attempt to force him to sign over the legal papers of the society to them.

The only good news from that is, Srila Prahbupada then went to India and spent a lot of time there, and I was told "he is not enthusiastic to go back to deal with these men." And so I went to India at that time -- and he stayed there a lot -- and thus we had his association for some considerable time. And so on and so forth. Not really proof that KS is a pure devotee.

Of course, Srila Prabhupada also said: Jayatirtha is my Tirtha; Ramesvara is the only intelligent devotee I have; "all of you are such pure devotees" when the devotees were throwing flowers at him in LA, and so on and so forth. That is called encouragement. He also encouraged me, that does not make me a pure devotee spontaneously either. 

A kindergarten teacher might also encourage all of his students to become brain surgeons, that does not mean -- we send the kindergarten children into the surgery room and hand them surgery tools right now. In any case in 1986 a CBS TV newslady told me KS is in pedophile heaven, when hundreds of devotees were filmed by her chanting to KS, including some of the leaders. Other people could see what the problem is, many devotees did not want to see then, many still don't now. ys pd

TD: What is that 1970 episode that you are referring to? I've never heard of it. Who was involved in it apart from KS?

PADA: There were four people mainly, I was told, the so-called four sannyasas. Kirtanananda was not there, but he was advising them on the phone. I was also told Srila Prabhupada told them he would only eat one tulsi leaf and one spoonful of honey per day, and that forced them to let him go. He wrote about that later, the sinister movement -- is within my movement. 

Hansadutta was also chastised for placing his photos on the altars in Germany around 1972 I think, and Srila Prabhupada told people "punar musika bhava," they will try to overtake their guru, and they will again become mouse. He was right. ys pd

TD: I remember reading something about sanyasis holding Prabhupada hostage and I thought I must of been having a bad nightmare. Can you tell me where I can read about that? How can that be?? I would think Brahmananda would have cracked some skulls over something criminal like that. 

PADA: I do not know where this history is posted, or if it is posted anywhere. We do know that Srila Prabhupada left and spent nearly two years in India. We know Srila Prabhupada mentions -- the sinister movement is within his movement, and he also wrote -- "Regarding the poisonous effect in our Society, it is a fact and I know where from this poison tree has sprung up and how it affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form. (Prabhupada letter to Hansadutta September 2, 1970). 

Sinister movement, poison tree, and later on, child abuse. I believe this is all connected, there were some bad actors in ISKCON and they were being checked to some extent, but then they came out more after 1978. As for Brahmananda, he told me around 1986 that he had made a big mistake supporting the GBC in 1978. He was not happy with their activities, and he told me he was supportive of my efforts. ys pd

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Mayesvara Pt 6 

Srila Prabhpada specifically called those who believe in such utopia as impersonalists, which is consistent with the impersonal concepts taught by the RtViks! Sanaka Rsi apparently reasoned that too many more children will be abused if he maintained proper Vaishnava diplomacy in his quest to protecting gurukula students. 

But this miscalculation earned him the reputation of offending the very people he needs to change the system. He appears to have no awareness of the simple cliche: “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you?” His failure to understand the importance of diplomacy has resulted in exactly what the Christian proverb warns.

“A brother offended is more unyielding than a strong city, and quarreling is like the bars of a castle. “ Proverbs 18:19

Sanaka Rsi could have avoided all this had he focused on what I suggested to him over six years ago. His energy would have been better spent setting up the channels necessary to assist those who report being abused get proper help from the organizations that have been founded to provide exactly that!

[PADA: OK so now Mayesvara admits, the leaders of ISKCON are not going to be very helpful in child abuse issues, we need to go to outside authorities and organizations. OK, we are doing just that, we are going to the karmi media, police, FBI, courts and etc. Going to the GBC is a waste of time and effort.

Agreed. 

Take your complaints outside, and go to public authorities and medias and expose them. As for Mayesvara's process, they are still worshiping the main founder father of the molester messiah's project -- Jayapataka -- in Los Angeles. Not much progress going on there under his scheme. 

Child beatings and rapes have been going on in Mayapur, and worshiping the leaders of that process is not sending a message that this mess is being cleaned up, rather it looks like the regime is doubling down on defending deviants and their enablers.] 

After the 1984 Los Angeles case, 450 gurukul children participated in a class action, sexual abuse lawsuit that was settled in May of 2005. If the abuse cases that were exposed after that were immediately referred to outside sources for judication, ISKCON leadership would rapidly become more vigilant about distancing themselves from those who commit such abuse. 

That is something we should all want and strive for. Then the people who got convicted for such atrocities would be sieved out of the system and prevented 
from repeating their trauma on future victims. Devotional service is a privilege, and child abuse is the anthesis of everything Krishna Consciousness stands for. Therefore, let the burden of those who abuse our children fall squarely on their head, NOT the society promoting Lord Chaitanya’s mission.

[PADA: Correct, so when is the GBC going to charge people like Bhavananda / Satadhanya / Hari Sauri / Nitai chand / Jayapataka et al. with aiding and abetting a giant child abuse operation? Yes, they should be held criminally liable, and not the society, but the GBC never does that.]

Carrying the Flag of Child Protection

It is also appropriate to commend Saraswati for taking up the task of identifying those who have abused gurukula children. However, she too appears to have fallen victim to the pratistha that comes along with championing the cause. Certainly, the general public and those who were abused would like to see her succeed in her campaign, but there is also that 20% of the mentally ill ISKCON-Basher public. They lie-in-waiting to jump on any band-wagon that will expedite the destruction of ISKCON despite how delusional that may sound. They have no appreciation for the fact that despite its current controversies, ISKCON is far more successful in presenting Krishna Consciousness to the conditioned souls of this world than any other branch on Lord Chaitanya’s tree.

[PADA: But why are the ritviks, or me, or Saraswati et al. engaged in addressing ISKCON child abuse, at all. That is supposed to be handled by the ISKCON managers, not us peons. So yes, if the managers appear to be defending the leaders of the molester messiah's project, like Lokanath and Jayapataka and others, that will produce "ISKCON bashers" because it looks like ISKCON is the defense team for these folks. ISKCON cannot allow child abuse to be operating on its premises and facilities, or it will get lumped in with that process. That is simply common sense, just as the Catholic Church has been seen as a corrupt operation.] 

Where Saraswati took a wrong turn is when she calls her possie to NOT support the TOVP project as a protest against what she interprets as inadequate condemnation for child abusers by the GBC. In this way her praiseworthy efforts have become compromised by the same bravado Sanaka Rsi is consumed by. Boycotting the TOVP is a protest against the vision of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura and that is extremely disrespectful, foolish, counter-productive and irrelevant to helping establish ways to protect devotee children from future abuse.

[PADA: Mayapura has been one of the worst offenders of the molesting situation. No one should fund a molesting process until it is all cleared up, and that has not started yet evidently.]

Lokanatha Swami In the Crosshairs

Another behavior that jeopardizing Saraswati’s effectiveness is her vociferous campaign against Lokanatha Swami. He is doing his dharma and what he is obviously very expert at, harinam kirtan, and that also happens to be the most cleansing form of penance one can do in Kali Yuga.

[PADA: Wrong, a person cannot commit sins on the strength of the chanting, that is called nama aparadha.] 

In 1990 he was honorable enough to admit that he engaged in inappropriate behavior and subsequently accepted the consequences of that act. He apologized to those involved and in turn got their forgiveness. 

[PADA: Lokanath swami was only "forgiven" under an agreement that he would not hold any post of authority. He lied, and so did the GBC handlers involved. Meanwhile, gurus are not acting inappropriately in the first place, or they are not gurus.]

He also completed the penance that the GBC requested of him which closed the incident and allowed him to return to his service of leading very inspiring kirtan melas. This led to thousands of new devotees joining the Sankirtan movement many of whom later became his disciples.

[PADA: Right, in other words he had no intention of keeping his word, he is a liar in addition to being a pervert, and he is a huge supporter of the Mayapur house of perverts.] 

Not too long ago it was alleged that Lokanatha Swami’s 1990 behavior was not adequately resolved. The 10-year-old girl that had been quiet for over 30 years was now 40 and was apparently provoked by the ISKCON-Bashers to resurrect this old affair on the claims that she was forced to remain silent back then. Yet if that was the case, why did she not respond to the opportunity for redress when

ISKCON publicly asked individuals in her situation to join the 450-member class action lawsuit mentioned above? That invitation was extended many years later and the intention was to demonstrate ISKCON’s good-will to assist the children who had suffered from abusive situations. 

[PADA: Why should victims of child abuse be obligated to do anything. Children victims are suffering often from things like PTSD and trauma, and we should not demand they comply with any plans we make for them. They should be allowed to come out, or not come out, as they desire, not as we desire. A number of ex-victims did not sign up for the lawsuit, that does not mean they were not abused. Some of them could not sign up for anything, they had already taken their own lives. We should not pressure trauma victims to take action, or not take action, let them decide for themselves.]