Anuttama Dasa
Pedophile Messiah's Club Leader
God's successors:
lusty, angry, greedy.
Which makes God lusty, angry, greedy --
since God is "shaksat" the same as His successors.
Say it ain't so! Sheesh pilgrims!
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DOES PADA GET THE LAST WORD?
PADA: Oh no. Having a debate with an ISKCON clone and he was upset that I "always have to get the last word." OK he was giving me "the tradition argument." Totally stumped him when I asked, "what is a drunken -- sexual predator -- and even pedophile -- acharya's parampara that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas, and where is this found in the Vedic tradition"? Yep. Instead of answering, he just said that I was trying to get the last word.
OK we already have had the last word: The GBC gurus were not appointed; Many GBC created a policy to remove the senior devotees, and sometimes replace them with crooks and molesters; Many GBC gurus have been falling down left, right and center; Many GBC gurus created a mass molesting empire that attacked many children; Various GBC created hellish conditions for cows by not funding their facility; Many women were fried and exploited by the bulk of GBC, and we know a number of them.
Many GBC helped siphon masses of devotees off to the Gaudiya Matha in order to bankrupt the society of manpower; Many dissenters were banned, some beaten, some sued, some killed -- thanks to GBC propaganda that they are offenders.
The GBC approved of changing the books, and we could go on here for forty more pages. Last but not least, Srila Prabhupada says he is being given poison. Do a lot of people agree with PADA? Doesn't matter, that is the factual history, and it will emerge and be accepted eventually, and gradually more and more -- it is being accepted.
Yep, we will get the last word! Or really, we already have had the last word, and it is just a question of time and our version will be the official accepted version everywhere. Meanwhile notice, Anuttama is saying Krishna's acharyas are commonly prone to lust, anger and greed.
OK he hates Krishna and His acharyas, and therefore every day he insults acharyas as lusty dogs. That is gradually being exposed, they do not like Krishna and they are insulting Krishna by saying His successors are lusty animal dogs, because they think Krishna is a dog, therefore His successors are dogs. Told ya!
And yeah, more people are figuring out their real agenda all the time, and therefore PADA will have the last say. Or we already have. Of course Krishna has the ultimate last say, and He says He casts false gurus and their entourages into the lower regions for eons of time. You better worry more about His "last say" rather than mine!
ys pd
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I’m in prison for the remainder of my natural life. I will never be released. I am the person who must ultimately shoulder the blame. It is I who committed the acts. . . . I deeply regret my actions from that time on all counts. I was misled by my false ego, by others, and very mistaken about many things. It was all a great tragedy. My actions impacted a great many people. Parents, spouses, children and friends were impacted with shock, grief and personal loss. It is no small thing to take another life.
When I look back to that time, I find it difficult to believe I participated. I was a very different person then. I am reminded of who I was each day that I awake in prison. There are consequences. Mostly I regret any damage I may have caused to Srila Prabhupada’s preaching mission. That is my deepest regret. I beg his forgiveness. I beg the forgiveness of all Vaishnavas.
(Killing For Krishna, p. 455)
(Killing For Krishna, p. 455)
http://henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html
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Just like in India, in the Hindu-Muslim fight, the Muslims were keeping weapons within mosques. You know that. Everyone knows. So there (are) so many international law of the fighting, but when there is necessity, they neglect all international law and they take advantage.
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Jayatīrtha: So the wars and the crime are a direct result of the cow slaughter.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It is a wholesale reaction. All these crises are taking place. They are killing their own child. Own child means that child is criminal; therefore it is being killed within the womb. Nature will take action. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ [Bg. 3.27].
Of course, a Vaishnava should feel sad to see the suffering of any living entity, whether they are Israeli or Palestinian, or even a snake or a spider or whatever. Because their suffering is all due to ignorance of their original spiritual nature. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says -- all suffering is due to ignorance. And the Vaishnavas are therefore trying to relieve their suffering.
At the same time, we have to balance that with -- a Vaishnava should also not overly lament the conditions of the living or the dead. We have to see how karma unfolding is actually Krishna's divine arrangement -- and it cannot be challenged or doubted. The law of God cannot be violated without consequences. So in that sense, we should not spend a lot of effort grieving for the victims of the material energy.
Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 2, Verse 11BG 2.11: The Supreme Lord said: While you speak words of wisdom, you are mourning for that which is not worthy of grief. The wise lament neither for the living nor for the dead.
But yes. Seems like a contradiction. So it is a subtle point, we should be compassionate, and feel compassion and sorrow for the suffering beings, but we should not get too entangled in identifying with their suffering.
Meanwhile the ISKCON leaders have misused the idea that everyone is just getting their karma -- to justify why they have mistreated thousands and thousands of devotees, including children, and created so much suffering for other living entities. They are artificially thinking there is no karmic reaction for them, and that their giving suffering / bad karma to Vaishnavas is acceptable. No, it is a severe offense with severe consequences.
We are not allowed to cause great suffering for any other living being, great or small, what to speak of a Vaishnava. So the GBC leaders basically made a Jihad against us, and they employed this poor Tirtha guy as their hit man, whose life they also ruined.
The ISKCON Institution Is Condemned
Those who have lived in India in the 90's will be familiar with Chandra Swami and the many scandals he was involved in, including the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi. In addition he was well known as a weapons smuggler, a spy for the CIA, and was closely connected with Adnan Khashoggi (another CIA asset, who was famous for his involvement in the Iran Contra scandal of the 1980's).
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Just like in India, in the Hindu-Muslim fight, the Muslims were keeping weapons within mosques. You know that. Everyone knows. So there (are) so many international law of the fighting, but when there is necessity, they neglect all international law and they take advantage.
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750705rc.chi
Jayatīrtha: So the wars and the crime are a direct result of the cow slaughter.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It is a wholesale reaction. All these crises are taking place. They are killing their own child. Own child means that child is criminal; therefore it is being killed within the womb. Nature will take action. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ [Bg. 3.27].
You are not independent. So if you work independently, then you will have to suffer. The law of nature is there. You cannot avoid it. If you infect some disease, you must suffer from the disease. You cannot avoid it. This is the law of nature. Law of nature is working in such a way that as you are infecting... Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgaḥ asya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu. Find out this verse. Why there are varieties of life. One is tree, one is cat, one is dog, one is human being, one is blind, one is lame, one is educated, one is foolish—why? Why the difference, varieties? And that is answered in the Bhagavad-gītā, kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya: "As you are infecting the modes of material nature, you are getting your birth." Otherwise, how you can explain by nature there are so many varieties of life, 8,400,000 species of life?
Largely Unknown:
Connection between animal slaughter, and people slaughter in wars.
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PADA: So the situation in in Israel / Palestine looks pretty sad, and actually grim for all parties. For starters, it looks like the Palestine leaders are hiding in underground tunnels -- making the civilian population vulnerable to all sorts of attacks, using them as a sort of human shields. In fact, some of the Hamas leaders are not even living in Palestine, they are the off shore shot callers.
Then the Jihad guys can come out of the tunnels, cause all kinds of havoc and retreat back into hiding. Srila Prabhupada mentions this process -- the leaders are creating big wars -- while hiding in a bunker. And then the unprotected citizens are getting punished badly with a lot of suffering because of these wars, caused by the leaders.
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Largely Unknown:
Connection between animal slaughter, and people slaughter in wars.
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PADA: So the situation in in Israel / Palestine looks pretty sad, and actually grim for all parties. For starters, it looks like the Palestine leaders are hiding in underground tunnels -- making the civilian population vulnerable to all sorts of attacks, using them as a sort of human shields. In fact, some of the Hamas leaders are not even living in Palestine, they are the off shore shot callers.
Then the Jihad guys can come out of the tunnels, cause all kinds of havoc and retreat back into hiding. Srila Prabhupada mentions this process -- the leaders are creating big wars -- while hiding in a bunker. And then the unprotected citizens are getting punished badly with a lot of suffering because of these wars, caused by the leaders.
OK that does not mean that Israel has the authority to oppress these people badly, I get that. Unfortunately, there are no winners in this process. All sides are suffering in so many ways. And evidently -- none of these folks are aware that animal slaughter -- and people being slaughtered in wars -- are connected.
And this is a pattern all over the world. The leaders cause many problems, includes wars, and we can see that in many places worldwide. For example -- countries in Africa, or places like Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, North Korea and similar other countries and so on. The citizens suffer while the leaders seem to have luxury items smuggled in for their opulent Saudi Prince life. And they spend the citizens money on weapons and armies -- as is predicted in the Vedas. Hmm, and ISKCON leaders seem to have a very opulent life -- while most of the citizens have to struggle for a few paisa.
As far as the Israel / Palestine issue goes, this has been going on for thousands of years really with these same folks. And this issue probably won't be settled any time soon. There is obviously some kind of collective karma between these groups.
As Srila Prabhupada says -- what may happen is -- the person who is fighting against Russia NOW in this life, might then be born in their next life in Russia. Then they'll be fighting again, this time -- against their former land.
In this way, people may have been fighting for a very long time in many past lives. And the retribution is endless and just continues on and on, indefinitely, or perpetually. So that is a very sad situation for the conditioned souls, to be repeatedly taking different bodies, and then be on different sides of these kinds of battles. Of course, even on the higher planes, there are sometimes wars -- "demigods vs demons." So this process goes on actually all over the universe. Generally, if there is a pious or just cause -- then war is authorized, but in Kali Yuga that is rarely the case.
Sometimes the fallen souls are fighting for country "X" against country "Y" and then later they take birth in country "Y", and then the whole process of eternal battling starts all over again. In other words, only when a battle is being fought strictly over religious principles -- like Arjuna is doing -- is war authorized. Otherwise, Srila Prabhupada says, participants in modern wars all go to hell. They are fighting over sense gratification and mundane false claims of proprietorship over "their" land.
All of this originally starts when the spirit souls falls into the material energy. Then the soul begins to identify with his temporary bodily condition. And then he thinks, I am a Russian, Israeli, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Australian etc.
And he competes with other families, clans, races, and assorted classes and categories of people. And they may become mortal enemies. Srila Prabhupada says -- this Kali Yuga era is something like -- cats and dogs society, where one pack of dogs will fight with another pack of dogs.
So all of this is based on ignorance and bodily designations. In the spiritual world none of this happens, because the people there understand they are spiritual entities, whose sole purpose is to serve the Supreme Being. And the type of body one has there, or what part of the spiritual sky one is residing in, is not an important issue. Because all of the bodies there are engaged in one purpose -- to serve the Supreme.
Now someone complained that I am not sensitive to these wars and the suffering caused by them, and the problems they are creating for innocent people. Well yes, it is normal we should feel bad for the non-combatants, or victims generally. Unfortunately, in the ultimate reality, no one here is truly innocent.
In the material world, everyone here has their previous karmic action and reaction links, which we mere conditioned mortals are unable to unravel, and determine -- exactly how a particular living entity has come to suffer, or enjoy, in a certain condition.
Oddly, the Naranarayan Visvakarma / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Pancali / HKC Jaipur type guys tried to argue with PADA that suing ISKCON is bad because "the innocent devotees" will have to pay and suffer. OK, but anyone who is promoting a homosexual and pedophile guru process is not innocent actually, they are complicit.
And this is a pattern all over the world. The leaders cause many problems, includes wars, and we can see that in many places worldwide. For example -- countries in Africa, or places like Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, North Korea and similar other countries and so on. The citizens suffer while the leaders seem to have luxury items smuggled in for their opulent Saudi Prince life. And they spend the citizens money on weapons and armies -- as is predicted in the Vedas. Hmm, and ISKCON leaders seem to have a very opulent life -- while most of the citizens have to struggle for a few paisa.
As far as the Israel / Palestine issue goes, this has been going on for thousands of years really with these same folks. And this issue probably won't be settled any time soon. There is obviously some kind of collective karma between these groups.
As Srila Prabhupada says -- what may happen is -- the person who is fighting against Russia NOW in this life, might then be born in their next life in Russia. Then they'll be fighting again, this time -- against their former land.
In this way, people may have been fighting for a very long time in many past lives. And the retribution is endless and just continues on and on, indefinitely, or perpetually. So that is a very sad situation for the conditioned souls, to be repeatedly taking different bodies, and then be on different sides of these kinds of battles. Of course, even on the higher planes, there are sometimes wars -- "demigods vs demons." So this process goes on actually all over the universe. Generally, if there is a pious or just cause -- then war is authorized, but in Kali Yuga that is rarely the case.
Sometimes the fallen souls are fighting for country "X" against country "Y" and then later they take birth in country "Y", and then the whole process of eternal battling starts all over again. In other words, only when a battle is being fought strictly over religious principles -- like Arjuna is doing -- is war authorized. Otherwise, Srila Prabhupada says, participants in modern wars all go to hell. They are fighting over sense gratification and mundane false claims of proprietorship over "their" land.
All of this originally starts when the spirit souls falls into the material energy. Then the soul begins to identify with his temporary bodily condition. And then he thinks, I am a Russian, Israeli, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Australian etc.
And he competes with other families, clans, races, and assorted classes and categories of people. And they may become mortal enemies. Srila Prabhupada says -- this Kali Yuga era is something like -- cats and dogs society, where one pack of dogs will fight with another pack of dogs.
So all of this is based on ignorance and bodily designations. In the spiritual world none of this happens, because the people there understand they are spiritual entities, whose sole purpose is to serve the Supreme Being. And the type of body one has there, or what part of the spiritual sky one is residing in, is not an important issue. Because all of the bodies there are engaged in one purpose -- to serve the Supreme.
Now someone complained that I am not sensitive to these wars and the suffering caused by them, and the problems they are creating for innocent people. Well yes, it is normal we should feel bad for the non-combatants, or victims generally. Unfortunately, in the ultimate reality, no one here is truly innocent.
In the material world, everyone here has their previous karmic action and reaction links, which we mere conditioned mortals are unable to unravel, and determine -- exactly how a particular living entity has come to suffer, or enjoy, in a certain condition.
Oddly, the Naranarayan Visvakarma / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Pancali / HKC Jaipur type guys tried to argue with PADA that suing ISKCON is bad because "the innocent devotees" will have to pay and suffer. OK, but anyone who is promoting a homosexual and pedophile guru process is not innocent actually, they are complicit.
And then several hundred kids were pulled out of GBC schools, ok because the lawsuit woke many parents up to the issue. Why do these guys always want hundreds of children to remain in GBC custody, at their peril? OK they are more on the side of the regime than the victims. And notice, they are more worried about their golden stolen shekels than -- their own society's children.
This has been the root of much of the trouble all along, many devotees are only worried about ISKCON's money and buildings, with little to no concern about the citizens. OK same as North Korea, Pol Pot, Stalin, and many dictatorships. To be concerned mainly with money and not people is -- an evil agenda.
Of course, a Vaishnava should feel sad to see the suffering of any living entity, whether they are Israeli or Palestinian, or even a snake or a spider or whatever. Because their suffering is all due to ignorance of their original spiritual nature. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says -- all suffering is due to ignorance. And the Vaishnavas are therefore trying to relieve their suffering.
At the same time, we have to balance that with -- a Vaishnava should also not overly lament the conditions of the living or the dead. We have to see how karma unfolding is actually Krishna's divine arrangement -- and it cannot be challenged or doubted. The law of God cannot be violated without consequences. So in that sense, we should not spend a lot of effort grieving for the victims of the material energy.
Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 2, Verse 11BG 2.11: The Supreme Lord said: While you speak words of wisdom, you are mourning for that which is not worthy of grief. The wise lament neither for the living nor for the dead.
But yes. Seems like a contradiction. So it is a subtle point, we should be compassionate, and feel compassion and sorrow for the suffering beings, but we should not get too entangled in identifying with their suffering.
Some devotee told me -- it is like being a doctor. The doctor has to feel bad for his suffering patients in order to treat them, but if he gets too entangled in the suffering of the individual patients, he gets mentally overwhelmed and cannot do his doctor job. He has to be concerned, but also aloof somewhat, and perform his job without being too attached to the result.
Meanwhile the ISKCON leaders have misused the idea that everyone is just getting their karma -- to justify why they have mistreated thousands and thousands of devotees, including children, and created so much suffering for other living entities. They are artificially thinking there is no karmic reaction for them, and that their giving suffering / bad karma to Vaishnavas is acceptable. No, it is a severe offense with severe consequences.
We are not allowed to cause great suffering for any other living being, great or small, what to speak of a Vaishnava. So the GBC leaders basically made a Jihad against us, and they employed this poor Tirtha guy as their hit man, whose life they also ruined.
As far as Palestine is concerned. The main problem there is -- the leaders are more or less engaged in a suicidal Jihad against their opponents. So they really don't care who suffers, or who dies, in their Jihad program.
They think dying while fighting makes them a martyr. And then they go to heaven and enjoy a group of virgin ladies. OK and if they have to drag all the civilian population into their suicidal death march, so be it. They also become martyrs. What is the problem?
Unfortunately, ISKCON leaders developed a very similar mentality. They didn't care who suffered -- or who died -- thanks to their bogus policies. They were engaged in a Jihad against their God brothers and God's sisters. And their victims suffering was justified for the overall Jihad -- of making condition souls into gurus.
So the gurus could then develop their own opulent private residences, living in private homes, or hotels and motels -- while the citizens of ISKCON have been suffering from lack of resources. Early on the GBC folks were saying -- let them all leave -- we have our own disciples. So they knew they were making a Jihad against the Prabhupada disciples. And the Jihad guys in the tunnels kept a supply of of food and generator fuel for themselves, while the citizens were not given protection.
They think dying while fighting makes them a martyr. And then they go to heaven and enjoy a group of virgin ladies. OK and if they have to drag all the civilian population into their suicidal death march, so be it. They also become martyrs. What is the problem?
Unfortunately, ISKCON leaders developed a very similar mentality. They didn't care who suffered -- or who died -- thanks to their bogus policies. They were engaged in a Jihad against their God brothers and God's sisters. And their victims suffering was justified for the overall Jihad -- of making condition souls into gurus.
So the gurus could then develop their own opulent private residences, living in private homes, or hotels and motels -- while the citizens of ISKCON have been suffering from lack of resources. Early on the GBC folks were saying -- let them all leave -- we have our own disciples. So they knew they were making a Jihad against the Prabhupada disciples. And the Jihad guys in the tunnels kept a supply of of food and generator fuel for themselves, while the citizens were not given protection.
OK and the Jihad folks think -- if they can wipe out a mass of people, then everything will be hunk dory fine, peaches and cream. What they often fail to realize, over and over, is that they are making lots of people dislike them, not trust them, fear them, perhaps loathe them, and not want anything to do with their religion. Already big donors to Palestine are cutting back donations. Oh yeah, and many people are also abandoning ISKCON, stopping supporting ISKCON, and they are joining forums to expose the criminality going on there.
And the ISKCON leaders as a group pretty much thought the same way as the Jihad folks really. We will ban, beat, molest, sue and kill people, and everything will be just great! Everyone is going to love us! Ummm, nope. Lots of people will be angry, upset, and they will either leave or abandon ISKCON altogether en masse (as most did), or they will want to retaliate and expose the false leaders.
But in no case will everything be fine. In sum, you can try to force people to accept your views, and you might have some degree of success if you can get them to respect you -- out of fear -- but that is not a system that will work long term. Even Krishna does not force us to be His robot slaves, because surrendering to God is a voluntary process. And surrendering to ISKCON leaders, or Jihad leaders, or any other leaders, cannot be forced long term either. If people are attracted to your program they will surrender on their own. Forcing people to accept is called tyranny, and all tyrant empires collapse in time.
And bogus leaders and bogus swamis have to then go to the lower planets in lower species, because Krishna does not tolerate these behaviors for long.
ys pd
The ISKCON Institution Is Condemned
Part 1
The root problem frustrating the revival of the Krsna Consciousness Movement is that all of the sincere devotees have been tricked to think that the ISKCON Institution is the Krsna Consciousness Movement.
The Krsna Consciousness Movement is that of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and HDG A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is the empowered commander of that movement. Srila Prabhupada also formed the ISKCON Institution to aid the expansion of Sri Chaitanya’s Movement. Just as his spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja formed the Gaudiya Math to further the movement of Sri Chaitanya. Now under false authority the part thinks it is the whole and all of the institutionalised devotees think it is too.
The ISKCON Institution is not the KC Movement. The Institution is a temporary, disposable portion of the Movement.
HDG said that if the Institution becomes antithetical to the Movement it can be dissolved. (“ISKCON is a great tool we can use to spread our Hare Krishna chanting. If it is not helpful, we can dissolve it.”)
The ISKCON Institution has become far worse than the level of justification described by HDG as needed for its dissolution; for it is now contrary to all that it was formed to be. It has deviated in every manner imaginable. No one can deny that to disgrace the founder by poor behaviour, desecrate His teachings with false quotes, pervert his books with unauthorised revisions, ban His sincere disciples defending His honour and pervert the Mahamantra (Ramo Krsno & Haday) and ultimately poison Him is ample grounds for dissolution. His accepting the ultimate offence, death by poisoning, has guaranteed the Institution’s demise.
To try to sustain the Institution or reform it is going against the wishes of the spiritual master and that is very dangerous for the spiritual advancement of His disciples.
How many people are aware of the role notorious criminal and godman Chandra Swami played in the poisoning of ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada in his final days?
To try to sustain the Institution or reform it is going against the wishes of the spiritual master and that is very dangerous for the spiritual advancement of His disciples.
How many people are aware of the role notorious criminal and godman Chandra Swami played in the poisoning of ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada in his final days?
Those who have lived in India in the 90's will be familiar with Chandra Swami and the many scandals he was involved in, including the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi. In addition he was well known as a weapons smuggler, a spy for the CIA, and was closely connected with Adnan Khashoggi (another CIA asset, who was famous for his involvement in the Iran Contra scandal of the 1980's).
"Adnan Khashoggi was implicated in the Iran–Contra affair as a key middleman in the arms-for-hostages exchange along with Iranian arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar [...] with Saudi and United States backing."
The name Khashoggi will be familiar because Adnan Khashoggi's nephew happens to be Jamal Khashoggi who was recently murdered by the Saudi Government in Turkey. Adnan Khashoggi also happens to be the uncle of Dodi Fayed who was killed along with Princess Dianna. Just see how all these people are intertwined.
An income-tax raid on Chandra Swami's ashram uncovered original drafts of payments to Adnan Khashoggi of $11 million USD. Chandra Swami was caught illegally sending huge sums of money to the CIA asset behind the Iran Contra scandal, and he was also involved with funding the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, funding the LTTE, and also had close links to Khalistani terrorists in Punjab.
The Jain commission that investigated the Rajiv Gandhi assassination dedicated an entire volume to the involvement of Chandra Swami in the assassination. Throughout the 90's Indian TV news was filled with reports of this man's criminal activities and scandals.
The Jain commission that investigated the Rajiv Gandhi assassination dedicated an entire volume to the involvement of Chandra Swami in the assassination. Throughout the 90's Indian TV news was filled with reports of this man's criminal activities and scandals.
So how is this person connected to Srila Prabhupada? This notorious criminal, Chandra Swami, who was involved in assassinating Rajiv gandhi, was involved in providing the Makharadvaja medicine Srila Prabhupada took in the last month of his life. Not only did he arrange for it, he provided it "free of cost".
The ISKCON leader who was friends with Chandra Swami and was ISKCON's link to Chandra Swami was Adi Keshava Swami. His father happened to be a known CIA agent. (Adi Keshava Swami also happens to be related to the Barclay's bank family.) So the son of one CIA agent amazingly has this contact with this VIP Chandra Swami, who is also another known CIA asset, and Chandra Swami decides to arrange this special "medicine" completely "free of cost" for Srila Prabhupada.
Weeks later Srila Prabhupada leaves his body, and days before that he speaks about suspicion he is being poisoned. Further there are multiple whispers heard on recordings from those days with the words "poison" in them. The ISKCON leader who was the link to Chandra Swami (and who's father was a CIA agent) disappears after and has nothing to do with ISKCON again.
One year before this Adi Keshava Swami also happens to take Chandra Swami to the US for a tour. The son of a CIA agent, brings some Indian swami (who also happens to be a CIA asset) to the US for a tour. ISKCON has never brought a "Swami" from another sampradaya (what to speak of a tantric swami) to the US for a world tour. The only time it has ever been done is when everyone involved had links to the CIA.
The following two conversations with Srila Prabhupada highlight the involvement of Chandra Swami in his final days.
Conversation on October 25th, 1977, speaking about Chandra Swami arranging the medicine for Srila Prabhupada:
Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Śatadhanya Mahārāja has come.
Śatadhanya: I have brought the makara-dhvaja from the kavirāja in Delhi. This kavirāja, he's not Rāmānuja-sampradāya, but many people say in Delhi that he's the foremost kavirāja in India. He treats the Prime Minister, Morarji Desai, and all the ministers also. So many people trusted him, and he mixed this medicine... He was mixing it for some other person, but when he heard that you were ill, he gave it to us.
Śatadhanya: I have brought the makara-dhvaja from the kavirāja in Delhi. This kavirāja, he's not Rāmānuja-sampradāya, but many people say in Delhi that he's the foremost kavirāja in India. He treats the Prime Minister, Morarji Desai, and all the ministers also. So many people trusted him, and he mixed this medicine... He was mixing it for some other person, but when he heard that you were ill, he gave it to us.
Bhavānanda: What kind of makara-dhvaja?
Śatadhanya: There's different kinds of makara-dhvaja, six kinds. This is the most potent kind. This is called siddha makara-dhvaja. This contains gold and pearl and musk and mica and many other ingredients.
Bhavānanda: And what are the other ingredients you have to take it with?
Śatadhanya: You can take it with either honey or milk. But he recommended that for Prabhupāda's particular condition he take it with honey.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. What did he charge?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did he charge?
Śatadhanya: Nothing. We got it for free because we got it through one influential man named Chandra Swami.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, Chandra Swami. That's that person Ādi-keśava was always working with.
Prabhupāda: That means he's honest. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You met Chandra Swami?
Śatadhanya: No, he's in Madras. This is forty-eight doses, two doses a day. That means this is twenty-four days' medicine makara-dhvaja. Two doses per day.
Prabhupāda: So do it carefully. Tamāla?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: You take care.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. I'll keep it locked up.
Prabhupāda: They charged nothing. Then he is honest.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Did he say what the charge would normally have been?
Śatadhanya: No. But he did say that what the other kavirājas said about dosage was very wrong, and that if that dose was taken it would have been detrimental.
Six days after receiving Chandra Swami's Makaradhvaja medicine Prabhupada says it is poison:
Six days after receiving Chandra Swami's Makaradhvaja medicine Prabhupada says it is poison:
Bhavānanda: He did agree with your own diagnosis, Prabhupāda. He said makaradhvaja at this point would be poison and today you said that it was poison.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Now let us look at Bhaktividya Purna Swami's recollection of this:
"The next day however while Srila Prabhupada was looking at the color of the skin on his arms and noticing a blue tint, he stated, “poison”. Meaning that the ‘makaradhvaja’ instead of acting as hoped, was giving the side effect of poisoning."
And here is Tamal Krishna Goswami's recollection of this medicine given by Chandra Swami:
"Satadhanya had also arranged earlier for the makaradhvaja, which had proved poisonous."
This medicine, arranged by Chandra Swami "free of cost" ended up turning Srila Prabhupada's skin blue and he immediately said it was "poison".
The following conversation, which occured in 1976, speaks about Adi Keshava Swami arranging a tour for Chandra Swami to come to the US, which Srila Prabhupada was not happy about:
Giriraja: And then Ādi-keśava Mahārāja is going with a swami? Chandra Swami, some Indian swami in America. He's going with Ādi-keśava Mahārāja to meet the new President of the United States on January 27th.
Prabhupāda: He's going to see?
Girirāja: Yes, Jimmy Carter. On January 20th he will become the next President. So Ādi-keśava Mahārāja and this one Indian sannyāsī, they are going to make a representation to the new President.
Prabhupāda: Who is that Indian swami?
Śrutaśrava: His name is Chandra Swami.
Prabhupāda: Chandra Swami? So why...?
Guest (4): He's a young man.
Prabhupāda: He must be Māyāvādī. He's taking advantage of this. He's a Māyāvādī.
Guest (4): He's a man who is following Tantric.
Prabhupāda: So what is this nonsense. This should not be... He should not accompany. He's taking advantage of it.
Guest (4): He's also directly associated with the Prime Minister, this young man. Chandra Swami.
So one of India's most famous criminals, somone who was involved directly in the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, someone who was notorious for smuggling weapons and other criminal activities, someone who was a known CIA asset and who had close links with other infamous CIA assets like Khashoggi, was also involved closely in providing "free medicine" to Srila Prabhupada in his last month alive.
In addition to this, there is a letter where Srila Prabhupada gives a warning about Chandra Swami:
In addition to this, there is a letter where Srila Prabhupada gives a warning about Chandra Swami:
'This Candra Swami has said that "In America there is no one turning Christians into Hindus except for the Hare Krsna Movement." That means his support is genuine, he's appreciating. Yes, it is dangerous to associate with such men, you should always remember that. But to take our interest, if the help is coming from such persons, we should not lose it also. But you must be very careful.' - Letter to: Ādi-kesava (26 December, 1976)
A few after thoughts, why would Tamal Krishna Goswami keep the medicine locked up in an almirah? I have never had the need to lock up a medicine, and I don't know anyone else who has had a need to lock up a medicine:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'll keep it locked in the almirah, and I will give one dose at a time to Bhakti-caru.
Just think about this. After Srila Prabhupada left his body, everyone kept everything related to Srila Prabhupada, including individual shaving hairs that were stuck in his shaving blade, but no one kept the medicine he took.
They still have the half used vicks bottle he was using at the time. They still have all sorts of things he was using. But this special medicine, no one has it. It is highly suspicious.
They still have the half used vicks bottle he was using at the time. They still have all sorts of things he was using. But this special medicine, no one has it. It is highly suspicious.
M Dasi: I saw how Hrdayananda is really saying ... we had absolute power over other people ... and we mis-used it. He never studied the philosophy of Krishna's religion. We are never supposed to say we are absolute ... and controlling ... beings. Ever. That is called arrogant and megalomania and not Krishna conscious.
ReplyDeleteWe are supposed to be more humble than a blade of grass.
He is openly misleading public what the religion is. A Krishna person is supposed to believe ... he is absolute, and he has absolute authority over others. That is exactly NOT what the religion is teaching. He is trying to blame the religion for his own ego and failure.
The religion teaches humility and not megalomaniacal absolute rulers ... lording all they survey. He does not know anything about the religion.
We are not the absolute lords. We are the tiny servants of the absolute lord. They thought they were absolute lords ... because they have big egos ... and he should have explained that properly. It looks to me he is blaming the religion.
And Anuttama? Noticed that too ... he keeps saying the acharyas are lusty, angry, greedy fools. And since the acharyas are quality same as Krishna ... Anuttama is saying Krishna is a lusty fool too. Why do they make the people who hate Krishna the most ... the spokesman for the religion?
Krishna is equal to a lusty dog? And he is the spokesman for Krishna! This is hellish. They are all going to meet one another on the planet of Satan.
AD: Cannot find any reference where Srila Prabhupada says ... gurus are sometimes lusty, angry and greedy. Sounds like ... no one would ever want to be a pure devotee if they would become so badly fallen.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone want to bother chanting Krishna's name ... if the result is ... you become a pure guru ... and that means ... you are in the grips of lust, anger and greed ... when you perfect the chanting? They are trying to ruin the good standard of devotees ... and make it look like the devotees worship lusty, angry and greedy fools ... as their gurus.
I find it totally disgusting that Anuttama keeps preaching that pure devotees are many times lusty, angry and greedy fools. That means any ordinary man is far better than their gurus. He sort of looks like a blank brain when he is talking also.
I think he knows he is making serious offense to say acharyas are way worse than ordinary men. But he doesn't care because they give him benefits. He would sell his grandmother to the highest bidder if he would get paid. These people are here for the benefits and not to serve. To say that guru is ordinary is narakah ... and I agree ... that is where they are going. What kind of religion preaches that their acharya is a lusty, angry and greedy fool?