Tuesday, February 21, 2023

Boycott Mayapur / GBC Hides Documents / Pancaratna writes

PJ: I certainly won’t be going to Mayapur ever again, and you can bet that I won’t donate to any ISKCON management that supports these bogus gurus... HARE KRISHNA.

SD: Yes, everyone should boycott them and halt donations to the TOVP, or any project in Mayapur, until they prove with actions they care about children.

PB: I know personally Sunanda das who secures donations for TOVP. I heard that some people are asking him for their donations back. How embarrassing for him!

SD: Oh yes. I also know people who are asking for their donations to be refunded, or for their donations to be diverted to the CPO.

GG: I think we need to boycott all ISKCON projects and not fund or support anything they are doing until they clean up their act. And we should only support programs that worship Srila Prabhupada properly. A proper CPO with actual moral standing and better yet  ... legal teeth ... is needed, but if there is one, all these people would be removed for complicity and aiding and abetting. That is why they suppress the idea all along. 

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AK: So what is the REAL reason the leaders and sannyasis of ISKCON couldn't provide all the hundreds of Srila Prabhupada letters, multiple video recordings and audio recordings? When asked by general devotees they replied: "We don't know what happened to all those recordings and letters, they somehow mysteriously DISSAPPEARED." And then, some of the devotees trying to find these lost letters and audio recordings were also disappeared, like Sulochana.

I could understand if the letters, audio tapes and video tapes were living creatures that had wings and legs and had brain to travel on their own and went inside a mountain for meditation, but they were non living things taken care by GBC sannyasis (Srila Prabhupada disciples). So how could they not produce the letters and video and audio tapes? 

Thus ... raises the question that these sannyasis had secretly planned hiding documents ... because they wanted to become guru after Srila Prabhupada, also Srila Prabhupada said 3 times that he is being poisoned.

□ GBC appointing Grihasta Diksha Gurus and female Diksha Gurus and Sannyasini.

Srila Prabhupada also never approved any grihastha diksha Guru who can give initiation. Srila Prabhupada was very intelligent and far sighted and if he wanted and felt right to do then he would have approved ghrihastha Guru to give initiation, there is no mention in any letter or audio and video of making Ghrihastha Diksha Gurus by Srila Prabhupada.

There is also no trace of history in our Sanatan Dharma or Gaudya Vaishnava sampradaya that there have been Female Diksha Gurus appointed either, but our Kali Chela Gurus of modern time whose minds are taken away by Kaliyug think they are on level of Lord Brahma that they can change anything within Sanatan Dharma, even Lord Brahma cannot change Vedic culture what to speak of humans. Srila Prabhupada Was against this female diksha gurus.

□ Book Changes against Srila Prabhupada's order.

Srila Prabhupada has written 100s of letters and video evidences that his books are to be kept as it is after his departure. But major changes have been made and many words and phrases and photos are deleted in the new books that we read today. Many of Srila Prabhupada's disciples were banned or even murdered within the temple when some of them stood up speaking truth about all these topics. I told here and there are many more issues than that ... GBC had done before ... but these topics were hidden.

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[PADA: It is odd that the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara is now all of a sudden discussing "protecting children" when they STILL want children to worship pedophiles, and / or pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis. Sorry, much too little, much too late, and no real change of policy. 

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com]

From: Pancaratna Dasa <pancaratnadas@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:03 AM

Subject: Re: INCPO working policy

To: Jayapataka Swami <jayapataka@gmail.com>

Cc: INCPOsec <incposecretariate@gmail.com>, Bhanu Swami (Madras - IN) <

Bhanu.Swami@pamho.net>, Gopal Krishna Goswami <hh.gopal.krsna.goswami@gmail.com>, 

Guru Prasad Swami <gpswami@gmail.com>,

Annuttama Das <ad@iskcon.org>, 

Basu Ghosh Das <basughoshdas@gmail.com>,

Brajavilasa Das <brajavilasa.rns@gmail.com>, 

Brajhari Das <brajhari@gmail.com>, 

Hrdaya Caitanya <hrdaya.caitanya@radhadesh.com>,

Revati Raman Prabhu <revati.raman.tpt@gmail.com>, 

Shankhadharidas <Shankhadharidas@pamho.net>, 

Subheksana Das <subheksana@gmail.com>

Dear Jayapataka Swami

We have noted your idea of developing investigation teams in each division and for us each state also.  Just like we have land acquisition or temple upgradation teams to go and verify.

For your information Badrinarayan Swami informed that ISKCON Burma wishes to connect with the Indian CPO.  We have been in touch and asked them to register their CPT and we will be adding them to our workshops. Naru Gopal Prabhu is adding Bangladesh but so far no one from Nepal has contacted. 

Yes prevention is better than cure. Just now I am working on a PPT workshop that is all about security systems. How to identify dangerous areas and look for signs, changes in the behaviour of the child, behaviour patterns of adults that interact with children and acceptable levels of discipline of a child. 

It is a huge work to educate and we have only just begun.  The figures you gave help us to understand the area of concern.

Your servant pancaratna dasa

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, 16:56 Jayapataka Swami, <jayapataka@gmail.com> wrote:

My dear Devotees,

Please accept my humble obeisances and best wishes as applicable.

All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Home base: Sri Mayapur Candrodaya Mandir

Camp: ISKCON Kalinagar, Medinipur, Bengal India

In regard to the rule that mentioned the need to take people from another country to adjudicate or investigate. In Europe, countries are small and the whole of Europe does not equal the population of India. In India, the different states have different languages and at least three or four divisions. Therefore it seems more appropriate to have a rule that a person cannot investigate from the same state or the same division. 

Then if they have another person, they could take themselves out, recuse themselves. It does not seem very essential to have a rule for different countries. I don’t know what they do in the USA, they are also a big country, do they have people from different parts of the country? That is something the Indian INCPO should communicate with the different regional CPOs and see what they are actually doing.

Regarding Daivi Prakriti devi dasi’s seminar, I attended, and I could see that she is quite knowledgeable about the topic of child protection. We need in India a program to see that the families are solid and take care of their children.

The government did a survey and found that half of the country is under the age of 25 and 65% below the age of 35. This was recently brought up in some seminars So, there is a great potential for youth preaching, but there is also a great potential for child abuse because there are many children. 

They interviewed 12,500 children and they found that 53% of the children reported having faced one or more forms of sexual abuse. In 50% of child abuse cases, the abusers were known to the child or were in a position of trust and responsibility like family members, neighbors, teachers, staff, etc. Most children did not report the matter to anyone. Therefore it is a big problem.

The laws in India are mainly over sexual abuse whereas the CPO sees physical abuse, psychological abuse, and other kinds of abuse. Our CPT will have some activities, when it comes to sexual abuse, because they have to report it to the police. But other things, other than sexual abuse after 2012, other kinds of abuse could also be prevented and adjudicated. 

The necessity for establishing national child protection policies is very important. And some of the neighboring countries of South Asia like Bangladesh and Nepal, also want to come under the Indian CPO, because their culture is much more similar to India. Western people may not understand the culture and the situation in other countries, or other continents. 

Somehow if the Indian CPO and the International CPO can work out their differences then we can go ahead. As Pancaratna had mentioned, they agreed on most of the items and the main objective would be to give proper training to the stakeholders so that prevention is better than cure.

Yours in service,

Jayapataka Swami

JPS/hdcd

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 10:01 PM INCPOsec <incposecretariate@gmail.com>

wrote:

Hare Krishna to all and dandavat pranam,

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I would like to share my experiences of the ILS seminar where I made presentations on 4 days related to "Child Protection in ISKCON" which was attended by Child Protection Team (CPT) members of a few temples, congregational members, brahmacaris, teachers, devotees from other countries, etc. All of them found the information given related to child protection very helpful and expressed the need for implementation of the same in all the temples around the country. Devotees from other countries found the preventive and educative measures very beneficial and wanted me to share the same whereby they could implement the preventive and educative measures in their respective temples.

Regarding the Indian temples, in the course of my interactions with the participants after my sessions, it was revealed that very few temples have formed CPTs and even if formed they are defunct as there has been no trainings, monitoring, follow-up since many years. There is no clarity of the roles and responsibilities of the CPT members, whom they need to report, etc. When the process of the INCPO and roles and responsibilities of stakeholders was explained it was highly appreciated as they could visualize a systematic and uniform structure of child protection in all the temples of India, if the respective preventive and educative measures are taken in all the temples, there will be few cases. A humble request to the Bureau is that they issue a circular to all the temples and the temple Presidents to kindly take the issue of child protection seriously and communicate with the INCPO related to the preventive and educative measures to be taken in their respective temples. Once the temple register on the google link 

https://forms.gle/3HiujLQyfPbQoVpm8

created by the INCPO, then we shall be personally visiting the temples to set up the preventive mechanisms in place and conduct educative awareness sessions related to the various children related laws of India, the roles and responsibilities of each stakeholder right from the temple managements, CPT members, leaders, counselors, congregation members, parents, teachers, administrative / security / cleaning staff, children, etc.

Your humble servant

Daivi Prakriti Devi Dasi

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 at 12:12, Bhanu Swami (Madras - IN) <

Bhanu.Swami@pamho.net> wrote:

Fine as long as there is an answer.


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