Indradyuma Swami Speaks About Ukraine War

From Kashishwar prabhu.

Srila Indradyumna Swami talks about the war in Ukraine!!!

Just had the great pleasure of catching up with Srila Gurudev at the El Paso Festival, Texas. During our conversation Guru Maharaj said some very important things.

[PADA: Indradyumna swami still creates his annual "remembering Tamal Krishna swami" festivals. Unfortunately, we all "remember" that Tamal Krishna swami has been the mastermind ring leader of the ISKCON "illicit sex with men, women and children" acharyas program, which bans, beats, molests, sues and assassinates Vaishnavas, and which had to be sued in Texas for mass child abuse. And which still promotes pedophiles as its acharyas etc. 

Indradyuma promotes the worship of a pedophile messiah's program's dictator like Tamal, and then he admonishes some of his own people for doing the same thing by promoting Mr. Putin. That means Indradyumna swami does not train his people to stop worship of bogus people, either Tamal or Putin.] 

In short, here's what Indradyumna swami said:

- There is no excuse for this cruel war in Ukraine. Killing civilians is a great sin. The Russian government is fully responsible for everything that is happening and they will be punished!

[PADA: Well that is true. There is someone making bumper stickers on Tik Tok "Putin Is A Baby Killer." So the Vedas agree with this point at least, bombing civilians is sinful, making Putin a very sinful man. Putin is a dictator, out of touch with reality. 

He has no idea what is real anymore after 20 years of having all critics banned or shot. Ooops, and Indradyumna has no idea what is what because he has been having us critics banned -- or worse. Both Maharaja and Putin ban critics, and then they have no idea what is happening on the ground.]  

Maharaja asked me - do I know what percentage of the devotees in the Russian Federation support Putin's actions? I said that I do not have such information, but from time to time I see how some devotees are circulating the Kremlin fake news in social networks. Maharaja does not understand why the devotees in the Russian Federation accept the propaganda of the Russian media as the truth so easily. 

[PADA: He has not trained them how to find correct information.]

Supposedly these are the consequences of brutal brainwashing. He said that despite the historical intimacy between Russians and Ukrainians, he knows from his experience that they are two completely different nations with different characters. And the intervention of Russians in the lives of Ukrainians through war is a serious crime.

I showed him a photo of one of my spiritual brothers from Altai - an old devoted ISKCON, Brahman, father of seven children... In the photo, this devotee sits under a Russian tricolor, a portrait of Putin and a painting of Nrisimhadev. This devotee supports the war in Ukraine and writes on his page that "ready to volunteer to fight against Nazis and Banderovts in Ukraine."

Srila Gurudev shook his head and said:

- Their Consciousness of Krishna is completely covered with bodily identification:
I am Russian! They take pride in it. So many years wasted... This only shows their weak faith in their spiritual teachers.

- Why don't they address me with a real explanation of the situation, and instead blindly broadcast global propaganda?

I brought an example of one of his initiated pupils from the Russian Federation, who in the letter, in the outline of "Russian patriotism" wrote that he is ready to even reject Srila Gurudev for "not acknowledging the truth".

[PADA: Oh really? We cannot accept the bogus authority of Indradyumna, if he does not accept another bogus authority, like Mr. Putin? As for the truth, the truth is: Russia is bombing civilians, including pregnant women, old people, babies etc. and that is not acceptable. Whatever the problem is, bombing civilians is not the answer. 

If they want to change the government there, then attack the government and not the citizens. There is a Tik Tok of Russian soldiers invading a house and coming out with all their supplies, stealing the food of the citizens. So this is very sinful, they want the common average people to die of starving, which is torturing people to death. 

The average citizen people there will die slowly in suffering, that is the truth of the situation. Srila Prabhupada says that killing other living entities should only be done quickly, just kill the victim as quickly as possible, but torturing other living entities to death is a much worse sin. What to speak then of torturing millions of people wholesale?]

I showed him on my smartphone some photos of the consequences of the recent bombings of Kiev. Srila Gurudev looked at them with compassion and shook his head, expressing his condemnation.

[PADA: Well there is Mr. Putin's first problem right there. His bombing of civilians is all over the media 24/7, and it is making him look like a psychopathic women and children bombing war criminal. There are all sorts of people walking out of burning buildings and they are clearly mothers with babies, crying little kids, old people, people in wheel chairs etc. and it is very foolish to say that these babies and old people "pose a military threat to Russia." That is what one news person asks, "how do these little babies -- pose a military threat -- to Mr. Putin"?]  

Maharaja asked me to convey to all the devotees in Ukraine that he prays every day for everyone and for the return of peace to Ukraine!!!

- This war will soon be over! Russia is losing it!

[PADA: Captured Russian soldiers say they cannot go back, they will be shot for deserting their posts. They have been ordered to burn Ukraine to ashes, until there is nothing left but a burnt carcass of the entire land. Then Russia can take it without any issues. That is what they have been ordered to do -- and they either do it -- or die by their own people. Wow! Killing everyone and leaving a burnt carcass, sounds like what happens to the animals!]  

The last thing he said - I would be glad to be there with all of you now and fight for the freedom of Ukraine!!! - he said so!

[PADA: Maharaja wants his people to fight for Ukraine. Well I am not sure that will help. It looks like there will be simply dead bodies piling up from both sides every day until this is over, which could take weeks, months, or maybe years. I really cannot see how any Russians will be safe in Ukraine for decades, since the people there will always be trying to figure out how to sabotage or kill them.

OK! Devotees should avoid the battle if they can in the opinion of PADA. The devotees have more important work to do for Krishna than getting involved in mundane wars. Of course, that being said, a devotee should not hesitate to kill the people who are trying to kill him or his family, every devotee has the authority of self defence.] 

P.S. All those who doubt the truthfulness of what I told, I am sending you directly to Srila Gurudev - you have the right to ask him the same questions and find out his opinion yourself.

March 15, 2022

[PADA: Maharaja wants people to worship his pedophile guru program, and he is preaching that process in Ukraine and Russia. How is that going to help the karma of the people living in those lands? If anything, making a pedophile worship program over there is -- making things worse for those people. ys pd]

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Story of Survival from Kyiv.

Vishnu Charan dasa, his wife Madhurekshana devi dasi, and young son Venu Gopal lived in the Kurenivka area of Kyiv where a lot of the hostilities of the conflict are taking place. Their son is not even a year old yet. The family had made a living by cooking and making prasadam made to order and are well known for their pizzas, and samosa. They are also active in sankirtana and serve in the Kyiv temple. Due to the conflict, the family was suffering financial difficulty and found themselves unable to work.

Thanks to financial donations the family was able to leave Kyiv and travel to the western part of Ukraine. They left via train and the trip took 11 hours.

Madhurekshana devi dasi and their son had one seat and Vishnu Charan dasa stood the entire 11-hour train ride out of the city. When the devotees arrived, all the men were made to register. After a couple of days, the military enlistment office came and asked to check their documents. After this Vishnu Charan dasa was handed a summons at the military enlistment office and is being sent to the army right now.

Madhurekshana devi dasi seems to be left alone with the child, and the money they have received from donations will help them with her and the child’s sustenance and needs.

Right now Vishnu Charan Prabhu is at the military recruitment office and this story is not over yet…

Source: https://bit.ly/3Ihk1LJ

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"Just look at how the Russian world is saving us,” said Marina Babenko, a mother of two, referring sarcastically to Putin’s claim that Russia was waging a war of liberation. “We were living fine and had everything we needed. Now they’re bombing residential neighborhoods, women and children. We have no weapons. All we can do is hide in the basement. We have no strength for anything else.”

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*** "Putin played into the hands of the war industry. He gave the warmongers what they wanted. He fulfilled their wildest fantasies. There will be no impediments now on the march to Armageddon. Military budgets will soar. The oil will gush from the ground. The climate crisis will accelerate. 

China and Russia will form the new axis of evil. The poor will be abandoned. The roads across the earth will be clogged with desperate refugees. All dissent will be treason. The young will be sacrificed for the tired tropes of glory, honor and country. 

The vulnerable will suffer and die. The only true patriots will be generals, war profiteers, opportunists, courtiers in the media and demagogues braying for more and more blood. The merchants of death rule like Olympian gods. And we, cowed by fear, intoxicated by war, swept up in the collective hysteria, clamor for our own annihilation."

NOTE: Many baby toys were found 

on the ground. Good job?