LUV and KUSH Defeat Rama's Army
The story of Luv and Kush stopping the horse of Rama as part of the Ashvamedha Yajna is a significant episode in the Ramayana, particularly in the Uttarakanda, the later section of the epic. After the return of Rama, Sita, and Lakshmana to Ayodhya and the establishment of Rama’s reign, peace and prosperity prevail in the kingdom. However, due to the whispers and doubts among some citizens regarding Sita's chastity during her time in Lanka, Rama decides to send her to the forest near the hermitage of Sage Valmiki.
While living in Valmiki's ashram, Sita gives birth to twin sons, Luv and Kush. The sage Valmiki takes them under his wing, imparting education and the knowledge of the scriptures, as well as the warrior's martial arts. The boys grow up unaware of their royal lineage. Years later, Rama decides to perform the Ashvamedha Yajna, a horse sacrifice ritual intended to establish his sovereignty and ensure the prosperity of his kingdom. As part of the ritual, a consecrated horse is let loose to wander freely. The regions where the horse roams must either accept the supremacy of the king who releases it or challenge it by capturing the horse and engaging in battle.
The consecrated horse from Rama’s Ashvamedha Yajna wanders into the forest near Valmiki’s hermitage. Luv and Kush, having been trained in the art of warfare and unaware of the horse’s significance, capture it. They tie the horse to a tree, thus issuing a challenge to the authority of the king who sent it. When Rama’s generals and soldiers come to retrieve the horse, they find it guarded by the two young boys. The soldiers attempt to take the horse back by force, but Luv and Kush, with their extraordinary military prowess, defeat them. Eventually, Lakshmana, Bharata, and Shatrughna arrive to confront the twins, but they too are defeated by the young warriors.
Upon hearing about the repeated defeats of his warriors, Rama himself comes to reclaim the horse. He is astonished by the strength and valor of the boys. Valmiki then appears and reveals the true identity of Luv and Kush as Rama’s sons. Rama is overcome with joy and emotion, embracing his sons and acknowledging them. And that explained the mystery of why they could not be defeated in battle.
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THE JIVA FALL ISSUE
But this is totally wrong, false.
If we read Srila Prabhupada's books, we can see how Srila Prabhupada said hundreds or maybe thousands of times that the conditioned soul, before coming to the material world, was with Krishna, was fully Krishna conscious. This is the meaning of "original" and "originally."
“Being situated in his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฏ๐จ๐ญ๐๐ does not identify with the body.”
(Upadesamrta 6.Translation)
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Thus ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐๐ฅ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ๐๐ฆ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐ฌ part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just as a man who sleeps forgets himself.
In this way, ๐ฐ๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐๐ซ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐ก๐๐๐ค๐๐, all the activities of the lost soul are performed on a false basis. (SB 4.22.31)
So we should try to avoid the material existence and come to ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐ฌ๐๐-๐๐ข๐-๐๐ง๐๐ง๐๐-๐ฏ๐ข๐ ๐ซ๐๐ก๐ [๐๐ฌ. 5.1].
(ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 7.6.5 -- Vแนndฤvana, December 7, 1975 )
Letter to Jananivasa—Vrindaban--27 August, 1967
So as eternal servitors of Krishna—our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง— ๐ฐ๐ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง when we try to become the enjoyer, imitating Krishna. ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ.
Krishna is the Supreme Enjoyer, and we are ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ to be enjoyed by Him, and when we ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง there is ๐ง๐จ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฒ๐.
K.C. gives us the opportunity of rendering service to Krishna, and this service attitude only can ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
The pastimes of Kแนแนฃแนa can be properly received from devotees.
Disagreements between one person and another are due to ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ. I think some way; you think otherwise. Therefore we do not agree.
But ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ , your ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ and my ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ were one.
And what is that "one"? That ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is to think, "God is great, and I am His eternal servant." That is ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
As soon as we want to imitate God or artificially become one with God, ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง begins.
A Bengali verse states,
krsna-bahirmukha haรฑa bhoga-vancha kare nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
"When an individual soul ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐ฌ his eternal relationship with God and tries to lord it over the material nature, that ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ condition is called maya, or illusion."
So at present, especially in this age, ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ of our eternal relationship with God is very strong.
But by chanting the transcendental sound Hare Krsna, the first result is that
our heart or mind becomes ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ of all dirty things. This is not a theoretical proposition; it is a fact.
(From minute 3:29 to minute 4:01 )
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ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 5.5.2-Sept. 1, 1969
๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐.
So as soon as we place ourselves in ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐, then you are ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๐ immediately.
When we understand this, and try to get free from this business, then we become eligible for going ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead.
Tadฤ janaแธฅ samparivartate 'smฤd. Samparivartate, ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, asmฤt.
And when he turns back towards ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead, then he is ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ค๐ญ๐.
๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
(ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 5.5.9-Oct. 31, 1976-Vแนndฤvana)
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(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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As explained in the next verse, Kแนแนฃแนa is the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ source of all living entities.
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His ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
CP DASA: Gour Govinda Maharaja said that Srila Prabhupada never once mentioned in his books that the conditioned soul was with Krsna before falling into the material world. Not once. According to him, Srila Prabhupada never once said such a thing.
But this is totally wrong, false.
If we read Srila Prabhupada's books, we can see how Srila Prabhupada said hundreds or maybe thousands of times that the conditioned soul, before coming to the material world, was with Krishna, was fully Krishna conscious. This is the meaning of "original" and "originally."
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"As soon as one is ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ it is to be understood that one is in his pure,๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ constitutional position.
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This state of existence is called ลuddha-sattva, which means that it is transcendental to the material qualities."
(SB 4.3.23.Purport)
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This state of existence is called ลuddha-sattva, which means that it is transcendental to the material qualities."
(SB 4.3.23.Purport)
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“Being situated in his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฏ๐จ๐ญ๐๐ does not identify with the body.”
(Upadesamrta 6.Translation)
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"In this verse it is very nicely explained how ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ, becomes polluted and we gradually become almost completely forgetful of our relationship with the Supreme Lord.
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When intelligence is affected, one loses ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ญ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ."
(SB 4.22.30.Purport.)
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When intelligence is affected, one loses ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ญ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ."
(SB 4.22.30.Purport.)
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๐๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ because we are part and parcel of Kแนแนฃแนa.
When this consciousness is misguided and one is put into the material atmosphere, which pollutes the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ one thinks that he is a product of the material elements.
Thus ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐๐ฅ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ๐๐ฆ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐ฌ part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just as a man who sleeps forgets himself.
In this way, ๐ฐ๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐๐ซ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐ก๐๐๐ค๐๐, all the activities of the lost soul are performed on a false basis. (SB 4.22.31)
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So if we want to be saved and elevated to ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, then only means is Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
So we should try to avoid the material existence and come to ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐, ๐ฌ๐๐-๐๐ข๐-๐๐ง๐๐ง๐๐-๐ฏ๐ข๐ ๐ซ๐๐ก๐ [๐๐ฌ. 5.1].
(ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 7.6.5 -- Vแนndฤvana, December 7, 1975 )
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๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
Letter to Jananivasa—Vrindaban--27 August, 1967
So as eternal servitors of Krishna—our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง— ๐ฐ๐ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง when we try to become the enjoyer, imitating Krishna. ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ.
Krishna is the Supreme Enjoyer, and we are ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ to be enjoyed by Him, and when we ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง there is ๐ง๐จ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฒ๐.
K.C. gives us the opportunity of rendering service to Krishna, and this service attitude only can ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
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SB 10.7.1–2,๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฅ- ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐
“this root cause of suffering can be removed by ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฅ of our Kแนแนฃแนa ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
All the Vedic literatures presented by Vyฤsadeva and other great sages are therefore intended ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ our Kแนแนฃแนa ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ, which begins ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ with ลravaแนa-kฤซrtanam.
The process ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ one’s Kแนแนฃแนa ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ฤdau ลraddhฤ tataแธฅ sฤdhu-saแน gaแธฅ (Bhakti-rasฤmแนta-sindhu 1.4.15).
All the Vedic literatures presented by Vyฤsadeva and other great sages are therefore intended ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ our Kแนแนฃแนa ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ, which begins ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ with ลravaแนa-kฤซrtanam.
The process ๐ญ๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ one’s Kแนแนฃแนa ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ฤdau ลraddhฤ tataแธฅ sฤdhu-saแน gaแธฅ (Bhakti-rasฤmแนta-sindhu 1.4.15).
The pastimes of Kแนแนฃแนa can be properly received from devotees.
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Srila Prabhupada-Montreal, Canada June 15, 1968:
Ladies And Gentlemen,
Ladies And Gentlemen,
This Krsna ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ movement is meant for ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
At present, owing to our long association with matter, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ has become ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐, just as rain water becomes ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐ when it falls from a cloud.
๐๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ the water is ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐, ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐, but as soon as it falls onto the earth, it becomes mixed with many dirty things.
Similarly, ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ , as spirit soul, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐, but because of our present association with matter, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐.
Therefore we have so many varieties of ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
At present, owing to our long association with matter, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ has become ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐, just as rain water becomes ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐ when it falls from a cloud.
๐๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ the water is ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐, ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐, but as soon as it falls onto the earth, it becomes mixed with many dirty things.
Similarly, ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ , as spirit soul, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐, but because of our present association with matter, our ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐.
Therefore we have so many varieties of ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
Disagreements between one person and another are due to ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ. I think some way; you think otherwise. Therefore we do not agree.
But ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ , your ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ and my ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ were one.
And what is that "one"? That ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ is to think, "God is great, and I am His eternal servant." That is ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ.
As soon as we want to imitate God or artificially become one with God, ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง begins.
A Bengali verse states,
krsna-bahirmukha haรฑa bhoga-vancha kare nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
"When an individual soul ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐ฌ his eternal relationship with God and tries to lord it over the material nature, that ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ condition is called maya, or illusion."
So at present, especially in this age, ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ of our eternal relationship with God is very strong.
But by chanting the transcendental sound Hare Krsna, the first result is that
our heart or mind becomes ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ of all dirty things. This is not a theoretical proposition; it is a fact.
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Similarly, we are part and parcel of the Supreme Lord.
So long we are not ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง linked up with His service, with His...
So long we are not ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐, we shall remain restless. That is our ๐ง๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
So long we are not ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง linked up with His service, with His...
So long we are not ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง ๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐, we shall remain restless. That is our ๐ง๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
(From minute 3:29 to minute 4:01 )
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ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 5.5.2-Sept. 1, 1969
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Our svarลซpa, means ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ, ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง,๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐.
๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐, ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, going ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead when he turns back towards ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead, then he is ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ค๐ญ๐. ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
Our svarลซpa, means ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ, ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง,๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐.
๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐, ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, going ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead when he turns back towards ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead, then he is ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ค๐ญ๐. ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
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Our svarลซpa, means ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ, ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, is jฤซvera svarลซpa haya nitya-kแนแนฃแนa-dฤsa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109],
๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ง๐.
So as soon as we place ourselves in ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐๐, then you are ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๐ immediately.
When we understand this, and try to get free from this business, then we become eligible for going ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead.
Tadฤ janaแธฅ samparivartate 'smฤd. Samparivartate, ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, asmฤt.
And when he turns back towards ๐๐๐๐ค home, ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ Godhead, then he is ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ค๐ญ๐.
๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
(ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 5.5.9-Oct. 31, 1976-Vแนndฤvana)
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What is the business of the conditioned soul?
What is the business of the conditioned soul?
"That business is to ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ง๐ง๐๐๐ญ his ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ relationship with Kแนแนฃแนa."
ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 3.25.14-Nov. 14, 1974-Bombay
ลrฤซmad-Bhฤgavatam 3.25.14-Nov. 14, 1974-Bombay
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His ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, (SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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His ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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They ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness,
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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He then ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ quality of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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If one can cleanse his mind, he immediately comes to his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, and thus his life becomes successful.
If one can cleanse his mind, he immediately comes to his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, and thus his life becomes successful.
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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In this way, simply by hearing of the powerful activities of the Lord, the devotee’s heart becomes almost completely cleansed of material contamination, and thus his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord becomes manifest.
In this way, simply by hearing of the powerful activities of the Lord, the devotee’s heart becomes almost completely cleansed of material contamination, and thus his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord becomes manifest.
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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As explained in the next verse, Kแนแนฃแนa is the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ source of all living entities.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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All living entities are part and parcel of Kแนแนฃแนa, and therefore when they ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, they possess all the good qualities of Kแนแนฃแนa in a small quantity. (SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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When one engages himself in the nine processes of devotional service
(ลravaแนaแน kฤซrtanaแน viแนฃแนoแธฅ smaraแนaแน pฤda-sevanam/ arcanaแน vandanaแน dฤsyaแน sakhyam ฤtma-nivedanam [SB 7.5.23]), one’s heart becomes purified, and
he immediately understands his relationship with Kแนแนฃแนa.
He then ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ quality of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
(ลravaแนaแน kฤซrtanaแน viแนฃแนoแธฅ smaraแนaแน pฤda-sevanam/ arcanaแน vandanaแน dฤsyaแน sakhyam ฤtma-nivedanam [SB 7.5.23]), one’s heart becomes purified, and
he immediately understands his relationship with Kแนแนฃแนa.
He then ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ quality of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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In the ฤdi-lฤซlฤ of Caitanya-caritฤmแนta, Chapter Eight, there is a description of some of the qualities of devotees. For example, ลrฤซ Paแนแธita Haridฤsa is described as being very well-behaved, tolerant, peaceful, magnanimous and grave. In addition, he spoke very sweetly, his endeavors were very pleasing, he was always patient,
he respected everyone, he always worked for everyone’s benefit, his mind was free of duplicity, and he was completely devoid of all malicious activities.
These are all ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ด๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ qualities of Kแนแนฃแนa, and when one becomes a devotee they automatically become manifest. (SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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he respected everyone, he always worked for everyone’s benefit, his mind was free of duplicity, and he was completely devoid of all malicious activities.
These are all ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ด๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ qualities of Kแนแนฃแนa, and when one becomes a devotee they automatically become manifest. (SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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Although crocodiles are very fierce animals, they are powerless when they venture out of the water onto land. When they are out of the water, they cannot exhibit their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ power. (SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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NOTE. Meaning of ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ :
Thousands of candles may be kindled by an ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ candle, and all will have the same candle power. (CC Adi 3.71, Purport)
Thousands of candles may be kindled by an ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ candle, and all will have the same candle power. (CC Adi 3.71, Purport)
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“we take the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ candle as ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ candle,” (Room Conversation with Metaphysics Society -- February 21, 1975, Caracas).
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“So each candle is of the same power, lighting power. But still ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐จ๐ง๐ is called ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ.” (Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva)
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Although the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ candle you can say ๐ง๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐๐ซ ๐จ๐ง๐ candle, but all the candles are equally powerful. (Speech at Gaudiya Math Center -- Visakhapatnam, February 19, 1972)
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According to the dictionary, ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ means :
This condition is ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ , in its origin, initial, at the beginning, the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ condition in its history, preceding all others in time, the first condition.
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This condition is ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ , in its origin, initial, at the beginning, the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ condition in its history, preceding all others in time, the first condition.
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The ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ condition is the first condition in the history of something or someone.
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The word ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ is used to indicate a real and existing fact at the beginning.
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If something does not exist, preceding other conditions in time, then the word ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ is not used.
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It is absurd to say that something is first, initial, original, etc., if it never actually existed.
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If something never existed, then it cannot be first or second, or anything at all.
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Daily examples :
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Daily examples :
" the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ part of the house."(At first,at the beginning of his coming into existence)
"the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ owner of the house."(The first owner,at the beginning)
"restored the house to its ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ CONDITION ."(His first condition,at the beginning)
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๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ - ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ด๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐
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1.If one can cleanse his mind, he immediately comes to his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, (SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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2.and thus his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord becomes manifest. (SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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3.Kแนแนฃแนa is the ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ source of all living entities.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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4.therefore when they ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness,
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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5.He then ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ quality of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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6.These are all ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ด๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ qualities of Kแนแนฃแนa,
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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7.When they are out of the water, they cannot exhibit their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ power.
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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His ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness, (SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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His ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ position as an eternal servant who is part and parcel of the Lord
(SB 5.18.11.Purport)
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They ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐ their ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness,
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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He then ๐ซ๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ฌ his ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ quality of Kแนแนฃแนa consciousness.
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
(SB 5.18.12.Purport)
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